Ray Wagner wrote:Be forewarned that on a Saturday night, which is race night at the Allegany County Fairgrounds which is walking distance from the bar (about 1/4 to 1/2 mi), this particular bar as well as the Cresaptown Eagles club are deader than a mortuary because most of the patrons at both establishments patronize the races.
OK, so there's more to the story. Cool. We play a place near Punxy that's minutes from a race track and they pretty much close up shop to live entertainment during racing season because it has the same affect on their business. I guess what I'd say to that is, knowing that the place is going to be dead, why book it during race season in the first place?
Ray Wagner wrote:2. I totally disagree with your premise that a band must provide the crowd. There's no way you can make me see the logic in that statement. I simply cannot understand it. As I see things it would be equivalent to asking a cook to provide people to eat his food, or a bartender to attract drinkers to the bar.
My point is not that a band is exclusively responsible for providing a crowd but you do, at the very least, share that responsibility with the club. You can't expect financial reward from a club if you're product or marketing efforts aren't driving numbers in an upward direction. We spend our own money on advertising at times when it's necessary.
As far as your cook analogy goes, the way I see it, the cook does ahve a responsibility to provide a product that brings business in. If the food is good, the word will spread and his reputation will draw customers. If the food sucks or if the public is unaware of the quality of the food, people will go elsewhere.
Same with bartenders. My wife tends four nights a week and, as a matter of fact, it
is her responsibility to bring in drinkers. She can speak more intelligently on this topic, but I'll tell you, I know she's had situations in the past where other fellow bartenders resented her for having better nights than they have. Have you ever gone to a bar where the service/bartenders suck? I have, and you know what? I stop going.
Ray Wagner wrote:Mods are welcome to lock this thread or delete it if they so wish. I'm certainly done stating my peace here on the matter. I have a lot of energy that I will focus on learning, writing, and performing music to entertain the people that attend our shows.
I'd ask that Ron and JP leave this thread up. There's no flaming going on here, just some sharing of insight. I feel discussions like this are vital, especially when more than one viewpoint is being expressed. I definitely learn from discussions like this. I personally add insight to threads like this to hopefully inspire thought in others.
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That's what she said.