Hank Williams Jr benched from Monday Night Football

[Hawk]

The Dixie Chicks also knew what they were saying and meant it the way people interpreted it. No one took what Hank jr. was saying the way he said it, or meant it.

I heard Hanks comment. He refered to the golf game with Obama and Boehner "like" Hitler and Netanyahu. It's obvious that he wasn't comparing Obama to Netanyahu. So semantically he didn't call Obama Hitler, it's obvious he was comparing him to Hitler.
You are correct about the Dixie Chicks.

Hank said what he meant and he meant to compare Obama to Hitler and Boehner to Netanyahu. You're naive to think otherwise.

You are missing the point, he DIDN'T CALL OBAMA HITLER! He made a comparison to enemies playing golf together.

I think you're being naive if you think Hank wasn't directly comparing Obama to Hitler. Not just a "comparison to enemies" as in his followup indicates, Obama IS the enemy and again he wasn't comparing Obama to netanyahu.

I think Williams' comments were taken out of context...

How can you say out of context ? Everyone heard the complete statement and what he followed it up with.

Wrong. The Dixie Chicks were featured on every radio talkshow, Hannity devoted nearly a week to character assassination alone, Fox News was all over it, and the biggest selling female group in country history went from back-to-back-to-back number one singles to zero airplay.

They didn't get fired, just severely punished.

[f.sciarrillo]

The Dixie Chicks also knew what they were saying and meant it the way people interpreted it. No one took what Hank jr. was saying the way he said it, or meant it.

I heard Hanks comment. He refered to the golf game with Obama and Boehner "like" Hitler and Netanyahu. It's obvious that he wasn't comparing Obama to Netanyahu. So semantically he didn't call Obama Hitler, it's obvious he was comparing him to Hitler.
You are correct about the Dixie Chicks.

Hank said what he meant and he meant to compare Obama to Hitler and Boehner to Netanyahu. You're naive to think otherwise.

Since he didn't come out and say the Obama is "Like" Hitler. I am going to assume that he wasn't comparing the two. Now if I hear otherwise from his mouth, and not the mouth of a megaphone for the left, I will think differently. And yes, I would do the same for anyone who said the same thing, whether they were left; right; up; down; or down the middle.

[Hawk]

The Dixie Chicks also knew what they were saying and meant it the way people interpreted it. No one took what Hank jr. was saying the way he said it, or meant it.

I heard Hanks comment. He refered to the golf game with Obama and Boehner "like" Hitler and Netanyahu. It's obvious that he wasn't comparing Obama to Netanyahu. So semantically he didn't call Obama Hitler, it's obvious he was comparing him to Hitler.
You are correct about the Dixie Chicks.

Hank said what he meant and he meant to compare Obama to Hitler and Boehner to Netanyahu. You're naive to think otherwise.

Since he didn't come out and say the Obama is "Like" Hitler. I am going to assume that he wasn't comparing the two. Now if I hear otherwise from his mouth, and not the mouth of a megaphone for the left, I will think differently. And yes, I would do the same for anyone who said the same thing, whether they were left; right; up; down; or down the middle.

Frank and Hawk having a social get together would be like the devil and an angel getting together.

Now Frank, have I compared you to the devil or not ?

And if someone asks what I mean and If I follow up with, "Frank IS the enemy" ? Do you think I have compared you to the devil ? Or do you think I was just comparing enemies to enemies ?

I believe you have "intentional naivety". Or you are stupid...

[autumnsky]

Seriously, who really cares who said what about who and the comparisons made about whatever figure in history. I still believe in freedom of speach and it just seems since this particular group of people have taken over the government, we all have to "shhhhh, watch what we say"! If you are willing to put your life out there in public as a public figure, you should know that somewhere, sometime, someone will make some kind of statement or remark that might just "hurt your feelings", or picture you in a negative way. Hey, maybe Obama will invite Hank over for a beer like he did for that cop that he badmouthed! I can just hear the beginning strains of "Ebony and Ivory"!!!
"ARE YOU READY FOR SOME BASKETBALL"?

[f.sciarrillo]

I heard Hanks comment. He refered to the golf game with Obama and Boehner "like" Hitler and Netanyahu. It's obvious that he wasn't comparing Obama to Netanyahu. So semantically he didn't call Obama Hitler, it's obvious he was comparing him to Hitler.
You are correct about the Dixie Chicks.

Hank said what he meant and he meant to compare Obama to Hitler and Boehner to Netanyahu. You're naive to think otherwise.

Since he didn't come out and say the Obama is "Like" Hitler. I am going to assume that he wasn't comparing the two. Now if I hear otherwise from his mouth, and not the mouth of a megaphone for the left, I will think differently. And yes, I would do the same for anyone who said the same thing, whether they were left; right; up; down; or down the middle.

Frank and Hawk having a social get together would be like the devil and an angel getting together.

Now Frank, have I compared you to the devil or not ?

And if someone asks what I mean and If I follow up with, "Frank IS the enemy" ? Do you think I have compared you to the devil ? Or do you think I was just comparing enemies to enemies ?

I believe you have "intentional naivety". Or you are stupid...

You didn't come out and say that I am the Devil. You could be saying either one of us is the Devil. It all depends on your own perception of it. With the Hitler comparison, you have a leftist perception on matters, so you believe that he did compare him to Hitler. Me, I am looking at it down the middle, and since he didn't come out and say "Obama is like Hitler", I am not assuming that he meant it that way. You also can't think such just because he says "Obama is the enemy". You can think it as naivety or stupidy, I don't really care. I am just trying to look at it fairly. It is the same I would do for anyone.

[bassist_25]

I still believe in freedom of speach

...which cannot be infringed upon by the government. Private entities do not count, and you don't have 1st Amendment protections in your job unless you're a public employee. You may be able to sue for wrongful termination if you have a contract or you can contest a disciplinary decision about something you said via a grievance-arbitration procedure delineated in a collective bargaining agreement, but those are private contractual matters, not Constitutional matters. In other words, all of this "free speech" this and "free speech" that is irrelevant here.

Man, I'm sounding like Lonewolf all of a sudden. Not trying to be didactic about this all, but people really seem to be confusing what freedom of speech means.

Me, I am looking at it down the middle, and since he didn't come out and say "Obama is like Hitler", I am not assuming that he meant it that way

But you previously said this, Frank...

I am going to assume that he wasn't comparing the two.

Remember, if you fail to reject a null hypothesis it doesn't mean that the null hypothesis is true. You still may be making a type II error. You're still not paying attention to your methods professors at Penn State, Frank. No, whether or not Hank literally compared Obama to Hitler is not the same as conducting an empirical study, but the logic of the epistemology of the two can be generalized. The middle of the road would be saying that it's inconclusive whether or not Hank intended to compare Hitler and Obama. And frankly, the only person who truly knows with 100% certainty what Hank meant is Hank himself.

For the record, Born to Boogie is a good jam.

[Don Hughes]

I have nothing relevant to say, I'm just listening to "All My Rowdy Friends Are Coming Over Tonight" while thinking what it'd be like to get all the political posters on the board together to watch Monday Night Football.

[autumnsky]

Don't you mean political "posers"?

[f.sciarrillo]

Me, I am looking at it down the middle, and since he didn't come out and say "Obama is like Hitler", I am not assuming that he meant it that way

But you previously said this, Frank...

I am going to assume that he wasn't comparing the two.

Remember, if you fail to reject a null hypothesis it doesn't mean that the null hypothesis is true. You still may be making a type II error. You're still not paying attention to your methods professors at Penn State, Frank. No, whether or not Hank literally compared Obama to Hitler is not the same as conducting an empirical study, but the logic of the epistemology of the two can be generalized. The middle of the road would be saying that it's inconclusive whether or not Hank intended to compare Hitler and Obama. And frankly, the only person who truly knows with 100% certainty what Hank meant is Hank himself.

For the record, Born to Boogie is a good jam.

Hmm, I didn't think of it that way. Either way, he didn't come out and directly say that Obama is like Hitler. Which is the point I am making. And yes, you are right, no one knows what he really meant except him.

[Merge]

I think what happened to both The Dixie Chicks and Hank, Jr. is wrong, though I think all of them are idiots. They have a right to speak their mind, even though some will disagree with their opinions. Someone mention on here, I believe it was songsmith, about how The Dixie Chicks vanished after the comments they made. I had to think about it, but songsmith is right. They also had a feud with Toby Keith that didn't help them, but after the comments they made about Bush, they disappeared.

[Banned]

The Dixie Chicks had the problem of having their audience come from country music fans. Country music fans tend to be conservative. If they were not country, they would still be going strong, IMO.

Hank's fans will probably eat all of this up, and his new song will be a hit, if it is a good song musically.

[lonewolf]

I have found that in this business, any PR is good PR...even bad PR.

Its kinda like sex...well...maybe not.