why are they there?

Post by **Ron** » Thursday Oct 13, 2005

home skooled

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

witchhunt wrote:To f.sciarrillo,
In your last post, to should be too, surrender has two r's, you should be your, there should be a comma after Firefox and IE, and one period at the end of a sentence is sufficient. Sorry.

I too, am LMAO ...

... Clark Kent had a copy editor so he didn't have to worry about spell check.

r:>)

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

Oh no, we better not be having a grammar check here on RockPage.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

wow, I must say I will read a post like this get a laugh, then pass. I'm not to much on getting in a pissing match but this is to good to let go. my spelling isnt the greatest, my grammer is'nt either I dont read novels but, I can read a piece of music. bass clef or treble clef. and thats what its about. this dude dont have a clue, he busts on Bobby, and others about moving the crowd with lasers. well I've seen many bands and played with many musicians, and all that comment on this post Hurricanes, Songsmith, Bad Daze, Hair Force, and many more they are all great bands with great guys in these bands and with there own flavor that makes it good and having differant flavors of bands will bring out differant people to differant shows and I know that from the band I am in and we are differant. but my point is when you have the talent to play as we all do on this post we dont need lasers or any other B.S. to impress a crowd it can be done with the musician and thier respective insturments and that goes alot further than a dumb ass laser beam keep up the good work guys. just remember music will create energy, lights just color it. and if you want to check out lasers try www.nasa.com

Post by **Jim Price** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

I think - spelling and grammar jokes aside - ultimately what nosurrender is trying to get at, is she wants to see bands pouring heart, soul and sweat into what they are doing; not musicians going through the motions and looking bored on stage. I think her "lazers" are metaphor for fire in the eyes, she wants to see bands who are feeling it when they play.

Having said that, I'm happy to say that I do see many more bands who do bring the fire and passion onstage, and very few that don't. Every band does it in a different way. Metal bands will vent and bleed it out onstage, and deliver the anger, the attitude and intensity. But I also saw that fire onstage at the Hitching Post last Sunday night, with the Hurricanes and their guests, Austin, Texas harmonica man Barney Sledge and Backdraft's Brian Cupples on guitar. There was an energy and intensity that night as well - not an angry energy, but a happy energy; the energy generated by musicians having a good time, feeling it and feeding off the happy vibes of the audience.

Yes, I get bored if I see a band going through the motions and just slogging through their cover sets to collect the paycheck at the end of the night. But fortunately, I haven't encountered one of those in a very long time. Most everyone I see does bring the fire onstage, but each does it in their own unique way...

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

Well said, JP, and a great note to end this thread upon (oops, dangling preposition!).
In addition, when I was 20, I'd do all the ass-shaking and "emoting" a girl would want to see. I played with violence and anger, too. I poured heart and soul into an original ballad, singing right on the edge of tears.
I'll be 42 next month. I've mellowed and matured. Music still moves me enough to devote my life to it, but I feel it differently. "...you guys ROCK!" was once the highest compliment you could pay me... now, it's "You guys are GOOD."
I look at my relationship with playing live music in much the same way I look at my marriage. It was really hot and fun and crazy early on, then with time it got deeper and deeper... less dreamworld and more REAL. When you go see the Hurricanes, you're seeing guys who have played huge shows with national acts, sure, but you're also seeing musicians with giant real-world experience, if they were tradesmen, they'd be masters, not journeymen. Passion? I've seen Felix with tears in his eyes onstage, and I've seen him play so hard I thought the Strat would snap in half. Audience or not.
Speaking of which, want the musicians to be moved? Move us. Try something as simple as applauding or dancing. You'd be surprised how much better we play if there's just two girls dancing. Be a good audience. "Here we are now, entertain us" was written as wry sarcasm, not truth.------------->JMS

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

songsmith wrote:(oops, dangling preposition!)

I got your dangling preposition ... RIGHT HERE!!!

Johnny, I've said it before, you played a big role in "moving" me to do what I do now. I saw those "frikkin' laser beams" at the 'Penn many times as a young lad and it was a true rush and inspiration to me.

** Superman's uniform is NOT impervious ... his body actually gives off a thin "aura" that protects the suit from damage.

r:>)

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

We actually had real animal-control lasers (illegal!) at some Thin Ice shows. We had to quit using them... they don't throw a large enough beam to be seen well like entertainment lasers, and drunks kept trying to get the focal points (the red dot) in their eyes, and these were bright enough to literally blind you. (laser pointers average half a watt... these were 7 watt, available only as a kit that had to be built) We tried all kinds of different ways to get you to see them... none of them worked safely, so they went bye-bye. Since then the Dj market has figured out that it's safer and easier to look at the dot, than the beam itself, and the shine it onto a rotating mirror which shows a pattern on the wall.
BTW, I knew what she meant by laser beams, men just don't like being told what to do... grab us by the ears and steer us that way, we don't mind that so much.

------>JMS

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

HA! I bet Mark threw them lasers together!

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

No, they were the brainchild of this guy who worked for Silent Partner Lighting out of Williamsport for awhile... one of those dudes who's technically brilliant, but not smart enough to bathe regularly. He didn't last long. Mark dug the lasers, though... me, too, until I found out they'd hurt ya. We tried everything... we put a lead crystal faceted sphere on a mirror-ball motor, and that split the beam up randomly, but that only looked cool if the stage lights were out, and there was lots of fog.
The coolest lighting effect we ever came up with was banks of ACL's (aircraft landing lights) hooked up to a lever system on oven rotisserie motors... they were blindingly bright and panned up and down. Worked really well.------->JMS

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Friday Oct 14, 2005

You wanna do lights for the Hexhed show Nov 5th?

Mistress_DB · Post by **Mistress_DB** » Saturday Oct 15, 2005

BadDazeRob wrote: I got your dangling preposition ... RIGHT HERE!!!

SECURITY!!!!!

We got a man over here with a 40 in one hand and a shorty in the other!

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Saturday Oct 15, 2005

Mistress_DB wrote:
BadDazeRob wrote: I got your dangling preposition ... RIGHT HERE!!!

SECURITY!!!!!

We got a man over here with a 40 in one hand and a shorty in the other!

LMAO! I've got to hand it to you Mistress, that was genius, sheer genius! Hmmm..."hand"...maybe that was a bad choice of words?

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Monday Oct 17, 2005

YankeeRose wrote:
Mistress_DB wrote:
BadDazeRob wrote: I got your dangling preposition ... RIGHT HERE!!!

SECURITY!!!!!

We got a man over here with a 40 in one hand and a shorty in the other!

LMAO! I've got to hand it to you Mistress, that was genius, sheer genius! Hmmm..."hand"...maybe that was a bad choice of words?

you need to get out more...

you wnat genuis , read MY posts!

paulwunder · Post by **paulwunder** » Monday Oct 17, 2005

no surrender wrote:
RobTheDrummer wrote:
no surrender wrote:i expected all this. i new this was comin. i new it!the bavnd and fans at odds!

fans want you to pick them up and fly them around the room! they want you to get inside there sole and make them forget!!!!!! don't you bands get it!!???? we FEED OFF YOU!! WE SUCK YOUR EN-ER-GY!!! you think we go just to hear you butcher another great classic tune? get fukin real! FANS GO TO GET ENERGIZED! we live out lives thru you (for a few hours)!!!!

WE WANT TO HEAD BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WA WA WA!

nothing is more boring than a band that's trying to "do it right!" fuk that! you'll never get it "right"! just GIVE US FUKIN ENERGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIVE US LASER BEAMS!!!!!!!!!!! TRANSPORT ME TO MOTHER PLANET!!!!!!!
So then don't go see the hurricanes and expect a metal show and crazy lights, that's not what they do...they are some of the most talented musicians in the area and some of the coolest to hang out with, you should go watch and learn. But, you aren't a musician, so don't go see them. If you want lazer beams, go fry your mind on that crack and jump out a window, please...

Oh, and fans, good fans want music, which accounts for about 20% I think. Everyone else wants to get Laid and Drunk AND if the music is good, they'll give you props.
you just dunt forkin get it do ya? i want A-T-I-T-U-D-E!!! I WANT LEAD GEETBOX TO BE CRANKIN ON THOSE STRINGS TILL THEY BREAK! GET MAD AT IT!!!!!!! hate your guitar! rip it to pieces!! give me a reason to believe you!!! BEAT THOSE SKINS LIKE YOU HATE THE FREAKIN WORLD!!!!!!!!! CRAWL ALL OVER AND EAT THAT MIKE LIKE YOU FUKIN FEEL SMTHG BESIDES BORDOM!!!!!!! GET MAD! GET ANGRY!!!!!!! SHOOT LASERS FROM YOUR EYES!!! CUT ME IN HALF WITH YOUR EN_ER-gy!! !!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT WE CREAVE!!! GIVE US EVERY ONCE OF YOUR BEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT END OF your SHOW WE SHOULD ALL BE EXHASTED!!! SPENT!!!!!!!!!!

What if you're in a Polka band? I'll go dig up Frankie Yankavick and try the laser eye implant.

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Monday Oct 17, 2005

paulwunder wrote:
no surrender wrote:
RobTheDrummer wrote: So then don't go see the hurricanes and expect a metal show and crazy lights, that's not what they do...they are some of the most talented musicians in the area and some of the coolest to hang out with, you should go watch and learn. But, you aren't a musician, so don't go see them. If you want lazer beams, go fry your mind on that crack and jump out a window, please...

Oh, and fans, good fans want music, which accounts for about 20% I think. Everyone else wants to get Laid and Drunk AND if the music is good, they'll give you props.
you just dunt forkin get it do ya? i want A-T-I-T-U-D-E!!! I WANT LEAD GEETBOX TO BE CRANKIN ON THOSE STRINGS TILL THEY BREAK! GET MAD AT IT!!!!!!! hate your guitar! rip it to pieces!! give me a reason to believe you!!! BEAT THOSE SKINS LIKE YOU HATE THE FREAKIN WORLD!!!!!!!!! CRAWL ALL OVER AND EAT THAT MIKE LIKE YOU FUKIN FEEL SMTHG BESIDES BORDOM!!!!!!! GET MAD! GET ANGRY!!!!!!! SHOOT LASERS FROM YOUR EYES!!! CUT ME IN HALF WITH YOUR EN_ER-gy!! !!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT WE CREAVE!!! GIVE US EVERY ONCE OF YOUR BEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT END OF your SHOW WE SHOULD ALL BE EXHASTED!!! SPENT!!!!!!!!!!

What if you're in a Polka band? I'll go dig up Frankie Yankavick and try the laser eye implant.

dude, i'm yalkin passion here, PAASION, smthg you will never no.
En_ER-GY!

LASERS!!! BEAMS EVERYWHER!!

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Monday Oct 17, 2005

SHUT UP ALREADY.

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Tuesday Oct 18, 2005

you wnat genuis , read MY posts!

In all seriousness no surrender, I try to read your posts but I now skip over them because I really cannot read/understand them. Esp. the thread about Plasma (new name), I could not understand what you were saying at all. Maybe you could get a helper when you want to post?

SavageHeart · Post by **SavageHeart** » Tuesday Oct 18, 2005

Maybe you could get a helper when you want to post?

Now THAT'S funny!!!

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Tuesday Oct 18, 2005

ZappasXWife wrote:
you wnat genuis , read MY posts!
In all seriousness no surrender, I try to read your posts but I now skip over them because I really cannot read/understand them. Esp. the thread about Plasma (new name), I could not understand what you were saying at all. Maybe you could get a helper when you want to post?

get off the drugs maybe?

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Wednesday Oct 19, 2005

See thats what I mean, that doesn't go with the conversation. Who should get off drugs? Me, you, or the helper?

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Wednesday Oct 19, 2005

yeah really, zappasxwife. that dude is hard to follow. like a little rambling jackass. lazers...and EN_ER-GY.....i have no fuckin clue what youre talking about. ive tried to keep up....he's just not on my radar anymore. good communication skills are very important. if this country was a bunch of rambling jackasses...we'd be England.
maybe he's from England!
cheerio, old chap... time for a spot of tea and cyanide?