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lonewolf wrote:
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lonewolf wrote: I just love the polling company:

"Public Policy Polling (PPP) is an American polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina. PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman and Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and chief executive officer."

.......

"Many PPP election polls were commissioned by the liberal website Dailykos, although the company states that most of its revenue comes from other sources."
A liberal pollster? Gee I wonder what demographic he asked? You don't think he would cheat do you? Na, not the democrats, they never cheat. /sarcasm
In a political polling, they once asked for the favorability rating of God.
Asking a liberal their favorability of God is no-brainer question. It should be a given what their answer would be.
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I saw on CNN tonight while I was working out that Obama is blaming Congress for the poor job numbers. It looks like Blame and Shame Game of 2012 has begun. He will do nothing this campaign but blame every single failure he had on other people.

I know you liberals will agree with him in blaming congress for the poor job numbers. But think of this, conservatives haven't forgotten how you blamed Bush for the poor job numbers (in fact, they haven't forgotten how you blamed Bush for everything), so if you blame one, you have to blame the other. Especially seeing that the other (Obama) made it worse.

I tried to find a link to it at CNN.com, but couldn't find it. It was on a segment between 7:00 and 7:30 Pm.

I did some digging, and found that in 2010 he was doing the same thing. In that case he had a super majority. So this just proves that he will place blame on anyone but himself. Next he will be blaming Bo the Dog.
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"Asking a liberal their favorability of God is no-brainer question. It should be a given what their answer would be."

So all liberals are godless heathens, that's a bit small minded dont you think. Im a liberal for the most part, but im also pro-gun and pro life. None of that bs right wing pro life posturing either. There should be no abortions period, end of story. None of the cop outs most conservatives take allowing for incest rape etc. Its pretty simple when it says "thou shalt not kill".
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eightpointish wrote:"Asking a liberal their favorability of God is no-brainer question. It should be a given what their answer would be."

So all liberals are godless heathens, that's a bit small minded dont you think. Im a liberal for the most part, but im also pro-gun and pro life. None of that bs right wing pro life posturing either. There should be no abortions period, end of story. None of the cop outs most conservatives take allowing for incest rape etc. Its pretty simple when it says "thou shalt not kill".
I should have worded it differently, and I agree with what you said. There are a lot of liberals who think like you do. Which is a good thing.

The ones that are liberal/social conservatives aren't too bad. They think a lot like I do. I'm an independent/social conservative, So it is cool. What I should have said was that asking liberals who are also social liberals about their favoribility of God. Sorry about the confusion.
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No problem, I should apologize also for my tone.

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eightpointish wrote:No problem, I should apologize also for my tone.

Steve
It's cool man. You tone was fine. My name is Frank, by the way.
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lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote:Gosh, what happened to that "record" gasoline price the right wanted this summer?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/05 ... ne-prices/

If Big Bad O's responsible for the increasing, he HAS to be responsible for them falling! :P
You betcha! The economy sucks so bad that there is even less demand for gasoline this summer.

There are very few things that government can do to improve the economy, but there are at least a million things they can do to wreck it. I think Obama has either tried or is considering every one of the latter.
So now low gas prices are BAD. *facepalm* Doesn't seem like much more needs to be said. :?
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songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote:Gosh, what happened to that "record" gasoline price the right wanted this summer?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/05 ... ne-prices/

If Big Bad O's responsible for the increasing, he HAS to be responsible for them falling! :P
You betcha! The economy sucks so bad that there is even less demand for gasoline this summer.

There are very few things that government can do to improve the economy, but there are at least a million things they can do to wreck it. I think Obama has either tried or is considering every one of the latter.
So now low gas prices are BAD. *facepalm* Doesn't seem like much more needs to be said. :?
No. Low gas prices are good (unless you are green energy type)...what caused them to drop (a little bit) is bad.

May I suggest that you read past the headline on your own links:

"But crude and gasoline futures have suffered from swelling supplies, persistent weak demand and a lackluster economic outlook."

FYI: Lackluster means "IT SUCKS"
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Is this really true??????????????????

"How unpopular can Obama get? Texas INMATE gets 40 per cent of votes against President in West Virginia primary

Prisoner Keith Judd got 40% of vote in West Virginia to Obama's 60%
Inmate 11593-051 got on ballot by paying $2,500 fee and filing forms
Attracting 15% of vote normally qualifies candidate for a delegate to the Democratic National Convention"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1uO7FHVGP
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This is how capitalism is supposed to deal with CEO pay. Not by mobs of completely unrelated people complaining about something that is, by definition, none of their business.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ceo-pay-r ... 3.html?l=1
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lonewolf wrote: mobs of completely unrelated people complaining about something that is, by definition, none of their business.
How about when it's a mob of mouth-breathers with misspelled protest signs? YOU'RE the one who goes to those, not me.

Now tell me, still think execs come first when it's time to distribute profits? Seems to me the working Joe's with the 401(k)'s should have the say, not the rightwing talkshow-hosts.
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undercoverjoe wrote:Is this really true??????????????????

"How unpopular can Obama get? Texas INMATE gets 40 per cent of votes against President in West Virginia primary

Prisoner Keith Judd got 40% of vote in West Virginia to Obama's 60%
Inmate 11593-051 got on ballot by paying $2,500 fee and filing forms
Attracting 15% of vote normally qualifies candidate for a delegate to the Democratic National Convention"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1uO7FHVGP
Now do some research. Are GOP/TP'ers allowed in WV's primary (unlike PA)? If they are, that means Big Bad o will take 60% of the November vote. Now follow along with me here... that's enough to win. It's called a MAJORITY. :twisted:
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lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote: You betcha! The economy sucks so bad that there is even less demand for gasoline this summer.

There are very few things that government can do to improve the economy, but there are at least a million things they can do to wreck it. I think Obama has either tried or is considering every one of the latter.
So now low gas prices are BAD. *facepalm* Doesn't seem like much more needs to be said. :?
No. Low gas prices are good (unless you are green energy type)...what caused them to drop (a little bit) is bad.

May I suggest that you read past the headline on your own links:

"But crude and gasoline futures have suffered from swelling supplies, persistent weak demand and a lackluster economic outlook."

FYI: Lackluster means "IT SUCKS"
May I suggest you look back in this very thread. When the topic was high gas prices this winter, YOU and the Rockpage Braintrust kept saying that "gas is higher than it's ever been," which was a falsehood. When I posted that FACT, you all (especially YOU) pointed out that prices dropped at the end of summer 2008, and suggested Bush policies brought them down. Now, as prices fall again (which I said they would do), Big Bad O gets the BLAME for how low they're getting.
Thank you. I can cajole, and point to facts, and post allllll dayyyyy looooong, but ultimately, the Rockpage Braintrust is their own worst enemy. "Higher gas prices are bad for Obama, and lower gas prices are bad for Obama." Thanks again.
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songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote: So now low gas prices are BAD. *facepalm* Doesn't seem like much more needs to be said. :?
No. Low gas prices are good (unless you are green energy type)...what caused them to drop (a little bit) is bad.

May I suggest that you read past the headline on your own links:

"But crude and gasoline futures have suffered from swelling supplies, persistent weak demand and a lackluster economic outlook."

FYI: Lackluster means "IT SUCKS"
May I suggest you look back in this very thread. When the topic was high gas prices this winter, YOU and the Rockpage Braintrust kept saying that "gas is higher than it's ever been," which was a falsehood. When I posted that FACT, you all (especially YOU) pointed out that prices dropped at the end of summer 2008, and suggested Bush policies brought them down. Now, as prices fall again (which I said they would do), Big Bad O gets the BLAME for how low they're getting.
Thank you. I can cajole, and point to facts, and post allllll dayyyyy looooong, but ultimately, the Rockpage Braintrust is their own worst enemy. "Higher gas prices are bad for Obama, and lower gas prices are bad for Obama." Thanks again.
How can you be saying about blaming Obama for low prices when the only time you blame him for anything is when it is good? When it is bad, you once again start blaming everyone but Obama. If he is to blame for the low gas prices, which I wouldn't call 3.79 low, he is also to blame for high gas prices. You can't sit there and say that he is responsible for bringing the prices down, but not responsible for them rising.

This where i am always coming from. You can't blame one for something, and then give another who is doing the same thing a free pass. That is favoritism. Like I said, when Romney get elected in November, you will go back to blaming him for everything, and still be saying that Obama is a scape goat.
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songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote: mobs of completely unrelated people complaining about something that is, by definition, none of their business.
Now tell me, still think execs come first when it's time to distribute profits? Seems to me the working Joe's with the 401(k)'s should have the say, not the rightwing talkshow-hosts.
I never said execs come first when its time to distribute profits. My view has always been that executive pay is the business of the duly elected board of directors and nobody else's. Don't like the board? Vote them out if you own shares. Too difficult? Don't buy the stock and don't buy their products.

The working Joe's with the 401(k)s (as with the rightwing talkshow-hosts) have as much say as they are entitled to. If they own a stock directly, they get as many votes as their shares represent. If they own a mutual fund, the fund manager votes for the shares that the fund holds. Don't like the fund manager voting for you? Don't buy the mutual fund.
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songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote: So now low gas prices are BAD. *facepalm* Doesn't seem like much more needs to be said. :?
No. Low gas prices are good (unless you are green energy type)...what caused them to drop (a little bit) is bad.

May I suggest that you read past the headline on your own links:

"But crude and gasoline futures have suffered from swelling supplies, persistent weak demand and a lackluster economic outlook."

FYI: Lackluster means "IT SUCKS"
May I suggest you look back in this very thread. When the topic was high gas prices this winter, YOU and the Rockpage Braintrust kept saying that "gas is higher than it's ever been," which was a falsehood. When I posted that FACT, you all (especially YOU) pointed out that prices dropped at the end of summer 2008, and suggested Bush policies brought them down. Now, as prices fall again (which I said they would do), Big Bad O gets the BLAME for how low they're getting.
Thank you. I can cajole, and point to facts, and post allllll dayyyyy looooong, but ultimately, the Rockpage Braintrust is their own worst enemy. "Higher gas prices are bad for Obama, and lower gas prices are bad for Obama." Thanks again.
No. I wrote that the average price of gas for the entire year 2011 was the highest its ever been for a year. I will go further to say that 2012 will probably surpass 2011 in this respect.

This number is found by summing all the average weekly prices for the year, dividing that number by 52 and then multiplying the result by the appropriate inflation factor. The number you showed us was just one of those 52 weekly average prices. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

Now that the math lesson is over, it seems that a grammar lesson is in order.

In the following compound sentence, the subject is "gas prices":

Higher "gas prices" are bad for Obama and lower "gas prices" are good for Obama.

When you use "Obama" as the subject of a sentence it takes on a whole new meaning:

Obama is bad for everything except for green weenies and union bosses.

Note the difference in who is being affected by what or whom.

All things seek price equilibrium in a free market. Price equilibrium usually doesn't last very long. The dynamic push-pull of macroeconomic forces are always changing. According to your link, the push-pull of gasoline is between the chance of instability from Iran (upward pressure) and effects from the poor economy (downward pressure).

This could be interpreted as a bolder Iran, caused by a weak, ineffective posture towards that country, and too much government interference and uncertainty for business, resulting in a poor economy.

This could also be interpreted as the work of some retired guy having barbeques in Texas.

Which do you think is more likely?
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songsmith wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:Is this really true??????????????????

"How unpopular can Obama get? Texas INMATE gets 40 per cent of votes against President in West Virginia primary

Prisoner Keith Judd got 40% of vote in West Virginia to Obama's 60%
Inmate 11593-051 got on ballot by paying $2,500 fee and filing forms
Attracting 15% of vote normally qualifies candidate for a delegate to the Democratic National Convention"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1uO7FHVGP
Now do some research. Are GOP/TP'ers allowed in WV's primary (unlike PA)? If they are, that means Big Bad o will take 60% of the November vote. Now follow along with me here... that's enough to win. It's called a MAJORITY. :twisted:
41% of democrats in WV voted for a convicted felon, currently in a Texas prison, instead of the Kenyan.

And the assclown brags about this?!?!?!?!?
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lonewolf wrote: I never said execs come first when its time to distribute profits. My view has always been that executive pay is the business of the duly elected board of directors and nobody else's.
You're always among the first to chime in when I say executive pay is too high, when compared with the average worker's salary. My view has always been that the board is gaming the system, and people like you want to look the other way, ostensibly because you think you're one of the elite.
You are not.

lonewolf wrote: The working Joe's with the 401(k)s (as with the rightwing talkshow-hosts) have as much say as they are entitled to. If they own a stock directly, they get as many votes as their shares represent. If they own a mutual fund, the fund manager votes for the shares that the fund holds. Don't like the fund manager voting for you? Don't buy the mutual fund.
Yes, yes... the working joe's are not entitled to much say in your world, are they? And if I don't like how it's run, I can just go back to digging the ditch, and let the machinations of corrupt commerce steamroll me.
I have some advice for you, as well: Don't like Obama? Move to Switzerland, I hear they let anybody in now. Don't like democracy? Move to a libertarian stronghold like Somalia. Don't like paying for welfare moms? There's no welfare system in Haiti. Neo's like yourself are often quick with the quips about getting out, but according to your sig-line, you're a free man... Bye!
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undercoverjoe wrote:
songsmith wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:Is this really true??????????????????

"How unpopular can Obama get? Texas INMATE gets 40 per cent of votes against President in West Virginia primary

Prisoner Keith Judd got 40% of vote in West Virginia to Obama's 60%
Inmate 11593-051 got on ballot by paying $2,500 fee and filing forms
Attracting 15% of vote normally qualifies candidate for a delegate to the Democratic National Convention"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1uO7FHVGP
Now do some research. Are GOP/TP'ers allowed in WV's primary (unlike PA)? If they are, that means Big Bad o will take 60% of the November vote. Now follow along with me here... that's enough to win. It's called a MAJORITY. :twisted:
41% of democrats in WV voted for a convicted felon, currently in a Texas prison, instead of the Kenyan.

And the assclown brags about this?!?!?!?!?

... And the Birther non-bather never questions how an inmate in Texas got on the WV ballot. Jesus, Joe, I can't make you any dumber than you already are. You morons are really plumbing the depths. :roll:
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lonewolf wrote: No. I wrote that the average price of gas for the entire year 2011 was the highest its ever been for a year. I will go further to say that 2012 will probably surpass 2011 in this respect.
On April 27th, 2011, a little over a year ago, you wrote:
lonewolf wrote: One phrase: QE2
Oil is denominated in dollars and when you use the dollar for target practice long enough, it takes a more dollars to buy oil. When you outright shoot the dollar by printing trillions of them, it takes a LOT more dollars to buy oil...or any other commodity for that matter.
If you hear them talking about QE3, I recommend that you take up home farming.
After the market pullback and interest rate surge that should occur at the end of QE2 sometime in June/July (or the end of the manufactured "crisis" that will occur to enable QE3),
The price of gas was due to Obama's mishandling of the economy, you said.

March 12th, two months ago, one of your Braintrust cohorts (namely, Frank the Negator) posted that Obama's sagging poll numbers were due to the price of gasoline. Ordinary citizens could surmise from his post that the down numbers were due to Obama's responsibility, since if it wasn't Big Baddy's call, he wouldn't be linked to those prices. The link he posted:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... ml?hpid=z1

He also posted this photo:
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If Obama wasn't deemed responsible, that photo would make no sense.

Here's what El Huey Loco had to say about it, early March 2012:
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songsmith wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:Yo stumpy, the DOW is now trading 200 points below the 13,000 high you bragged about. Does Obama get the blame?
Yo Baby Huey, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is up more than
62% since Obama took office
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Does Obama get the credit? :roll:
If he gets credit for the price of gas doubling since he took office.[/color]
Now, here's what Ol' Stumpington J. Songsmith III, Esq. said about the Braintrust's sudden interest in gasoline prices, this past Feb 29th:
songsmith wrote:The RNC has been circulating a "Pundit Prep" sheet outlining what they want the screech-owls in the wingnut media to say, and they say it. It says to attack Obama on 1) unemployment, 2) the national debt, and 3) gas prices. Not only has this been leaked and distributed to other outlets, one of the Fox & Friends d-bags read it live on the air, verbatim.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201202200003
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I knew where you gomers were getting that crap. (Notice I'm working my way backward here on the timeline)

Frank bawl-babied that the media wasn't making a big enough stink about Obama's gas prices:
f.sciarrillo wrote: It doesn't excuse the fact that your media, MSNBC, and the like, had 4 times more stories about gas prices for Bush than for Obama. Why is that? They are covering up for him. Face facts, your media, MSNBC and the like, are biased and are covering up for Obama. I can guarantee that if there was a Republican President in office, you would be seeing the witch hunts and cries for his head big time.
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And yes, here's a snippet of conversation that shows Lonewolf, Master of the Universe, suggesting that the moratorium on new Gulf of Mexico drilling is Obama's fault... not that it's Obama's fault or anything (Feb 22nd):
lonewolf wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:
Merge wrote:
I have a question: Shouldn't the decision to drill or not drill be made my Congress?? I'm confused as to why the President is telling a company that they aren't allowed to do something.
I don't understand it either. But it is one of the things the President decides. Congress probably could pass a bill lifting the moratorium but Obama would never sign it.
Its the executive branch's responsibility to issue the permit...or not.

Congress cannot make the decision, but they can and did send an order to place a deadline on the President's decision on the matter. The President decided to deny the permit.

The Keystone XL extension was proposed in 2008. The application was filed in the beginning of 2009 and the National Energy Board of Canada started hearings in September 2009. It was approved by the National Energy Board on March 11, 2010. The South Dakota Public Utilities Commission granted a permit on February 19, 2010.

On January 18, 2012, President Obama rejected the application, stating that the deadline for the decision had "prevented a full assessment of the pipeline's impact."
From that same day, Loner jabs at Obama's speech about gas prices... if Obama's not to blame, why were you referring to HIM, specifically?:
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f.sciarrillo wrote:Gas is 3.75 a gallon. Everyone stand and give Obama a big round of applause. He is doing such a great job.
Don't worry! He's going to (what else) talk about it tomorrow!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... 0VXm3n08ao

Just one word from his lips and the deaf begin to hear!
lonewolf wrote: Now that the math lesson is over, it seems that a grammar lesson is in order.
Perhaps a little writing lesson for you, numb-numb:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/colloquial

a : used in or characteristic of familiar and informal conversation; also : unacceptably informal
b : using conversational style

In the first place, use of colloquialism in creative writing is a way of moving the point ahead, especially in informal settings, such as when I'm making you look like an idiot. You may purport yourself to be the all-knowing master of time, space and dimension, but at the end of the day, you have two writing speeds: boring, and self-important. In short, I'm more knowledgeable about all things verbal than you.
In the second place, I have no real desire to jump through your little hoops, and simply choose not to do so. If you don't like how I write, go away, free man.
I hope you learned something from this exercise in futility, but I trust you did not.
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songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote: No. I wrote that the average price of gas for the entire year 2011 was the highest its ever been for a year. I will go further to say that 2012 will probably surpass 2011 in this respect.
On April 27th, 2011, a little over a year ago, you wrote:
lonewolf wrote: One phrase: QE2
Oil is denominated in dollars and when you use the dollar for target practice long enough, it takes a more dollars to buy oil. When you outright shoot the dollar by printing trillions of them, it takes a LOT more dollars to buy oil...or any other commodity for that matter.
If you hear them talking about QE3, I recommend that you take up home farming.
After the market pullback and interest rate surge that should occur at the end of QE2 sometime in June/July (or the end of the manufactured "crisis" that will occur to enable QE3),
The price of gas was due to Obama's mishandling of the economy, you said.

March 12th, two months ago, one of your Braintrust cohorts (namely, Frank the Negator) posted that Obama's sagging poll numbers were due to the price of gasoline. Ordinary citizens could surmise from his post that the down numbers were due to Obama's responsibility, since if it wasn't Big Baddy's call, he wouldn't be linked to those prices. The link he posted:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... ml?hpid=z1

He also posted this photo:
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If Obama wasn't deemed responsible, that photo would make no sense.

Here's what El Huey Loco had to say about it, early March 2012:
undercoverjoe wrote:
songsmith wrote: Yo Baby Huey, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is up more than
62% since Obama took office
.
Does Obama get the credit? :roll:
If he gets credit for the price of gas doubling since he took office.[/color]
Now, here's what Ol' Stumpington J. Songsmith III, Esq. said about the Braintrust's sudden interest in gasoline prices, this past Feb 29th:
songsmith wrote:The RNC has been circulating a "Pundit Prep" sheet outlining what they want the screech-owls in the wingnut media to say, and they say it. It says to attack Obama on 1) unemployment, 2) the national debt, and 3) gas prices. Not only has this been leaked and distributed to other outlets, one of the Fox & Friends d-bags read it live on the air, verbatim.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201202200003
.
I knew where you gomers were getting that crap. (Notice I'm working my way backward here on the timeline)

Frank bawl-babied that the media wasn't making a big enough stink about Obama's gas prices:
f.sciarrillo wrote: It doesn't excuse the fact that your media, MSNBC, and the like, had 4 times more stories about gas prices for Bush than for Obama. Why is that? They are covering up for him. Face facts, your media, MSNBC and the like, are biased and are covering up for Obama. I can guarantee that if there was a Republican President in office, you would be seeing the witch hunts and cries for his head big time.
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And yes, here's a snippet of conversation that shows Lonewolf, Master of the Universe, suggesting that the moratorium on new Gulf of Mexico drilling is Obama's fault... not that it's Obama's fault or anything (Feb 22nd):
lonewolf wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: I don't understand it either. But it is one of the things the President decides. Congress probably could pass a bill lifting the moratorium but Obama would never sign it.
Its the executive branch's responsibility to issue the permit...or not.

Congress cannot make the decision, but they can and did send an order to place a deadline on the President's decision on the matter. The President decided to deny the permit.

The Keystone XL extension was proposed in 2008. The application was filed in the beginning of 2009 and the National Energy Board of Canada started hearings in September 2009. It was approved by the National Energy Board on March 11, 2010. The South Dakota Public Utilities Commission granted a permit on February 19, 2010.

On January 18, 2012, President Obama rejected the application, stating that the deadline for the decision had "prevented a full assessment of the pipeline's impact."
From that same day, Loner jabs at Obama's speech about gas prices... if Obama's not to blame, why were you referring to HIM, specifically?:
lonewolf wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:Gas is 3.75 a gallon. Everyone stand and give Obama a big round of applause. He is doing such a great job.
Don't worry! He's going to (what else) talk about it tomorrow!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... 0VXm3n08ao

Just one word from his lips and the deaf begin to hear!
lonewolf wrote: Now that the math lesson is over, it seems that a grammar lesson is in order.
Perhaps a little writing lesson for you, numb-numb:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/colloquial

a : used in or characteristic of familiar and informal conversation; also : unacceptably informal
b : using conversational style

In the first place, use of colloquialism in creative writing is a way of moving the point ahead, especially in informal settings, such as when I'm making you look like an idiot. You may purport yourself to be the all-knowing master of time, space and dimension, but at the end of the day, you have two writing speeds: boring, and self-important. In short, I'm more knowledgeable about all things verbal than you.
In the second place, I have no real desire to jump through your little hoops, and simply choose not to do so. If you don't like how I write, go away, free man.
I hope you learned something from this exercise in futility, but I trust you did not.
Thank you for jumping thru all my little hoops.

May I suggest that you get checked for Alzheimer's disease? You seem to be exhibiting several symptoms.

I hear they can treat it if its caught early.
lonewolf wrote: Obama is bad for everything except for green weenies and union bosses.
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.....According to your link, the push-pull of gasoline is between the chance of instability from Iran (upward pressure) and effects from the poor economy (downward pressure).
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songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote: No. I wrote that the average price of gas for the entire year 2011 was the highest its ever been for a year. I will go further to say that 2012 will probably surpass 2011 in this respect.
On April 27th, 2011, a little over a year ago, you wrote:
lonewolf wrote: One phrase: QE2
Oil is denominated in dollars and when you use the dollar for target practice long enough, it takes a more dollars to buy oil. When you outright shoot the dollar by printing trillions of them, it takes a LOT more dollars to buy oil...or any other commodity for that matter.
If you hear them talking about QE3, I recommend that you take up home farming.
After the market pullback and interest rate surge that should occur at the end of QE2 sometime in June/July (or the end of the manufactured "crisis" that will occur to enable QE3),
The price of gas was due to Obama's mishandling of the economy, you said.

March 12th, two months ago, one of your Braintrust cohorts (namely, Frank the Negator) posted that Obama's sagging poll numbers were due to the price of gasoline. Ordinary citizens could surmise from his post that the down numbers were due to Obama's responsibility, since if it wasn't Big Baddy's call, he wouldn't be linked to those prices. The link he posted:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... ml?hpid=z1

He also posted this photo:
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If Obama wasn't deemed responsible, that photo would make no sense.

Here's what El Huey Loco had to say about it, early March 2012:
undercoverjoe wrote:
songsmith wrote: Yo Baby Huey, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is up more than
62% since Obama took office
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Does Obama get the credit? :roll:
If he gets credit for the price of gas doubling since he took office.[/color]
Now, here's what Ol' Stumpington J. Songsmith III, Esq. said about the Braintrust's sudden interest in gasoline prices, this past Feb 29th:
songsmith wrote:The RNC has been circulating a "Pundit Prep" sheet outlining what they want the screech-owls in the wingnut media to say, and they say it. It says to attack Obama on 1) unemployment, 2) the national debt, and 3) gas prices. Not only has this been leaked and distributed to other outlets, one of the Fox & Friends d-bags read it live on the air, verbatim.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201202200003
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I knew where you gomers were getting that crap. (Notice I'm working my way backward here on the timeline)

Frank bawl-babied that the media wasn't making a big enough stink about Obama's gas prices:
f.sciarrillo wrote: It doesn't excuse the fact that your media, MSNBC, and the like, had 4 times more stories about gas prices for Bush than for Obama. Why is that? They are covering up for him. Face facts, your media, MSNBC and the like, are biased and are covering up for Obama. I can guarantee that if there was a Republican President in office, you would be seeing the witch hunts and cries for his head big time.
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And yes, here's a snippet of conversation that shows Lonewolf, Master of the Universe, suggesting that the moratorium on new Gulf of Mexico drilling is Obama's fault... not that it's Obama's fault or anything (Feb 22nd):
lonewolf wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: I don't understand it either. But it is one of the things the President decides. Congress probably could pass a bill lifting the moratorium but Obama would never sign it.
Its the executive branch's responsibility to issue the permit...or not.

Congress cannot make the decision, but they can and did send an order to place a deadline on the President's decision on the matter. The President decided to deny the permit.

The Keystone XL extension was proposed in 2008. The application was filed in the beginning of 2009 and the National Energy Board of Canada started hearings in September 2009. It was approved by the National Energy Board on March 11, 2010. The South Dakota Public Utilities Commission granted a permit on February 19, 2010.

On January 18, 2012, President Obama rejected the application, stating that the deadline for the decision had "prevented a full assessment of the pipeline's impact."
From that same day, Loner jabs at Obama's speech about gas prices... if Obama's not to blame, why were you referring to HIM, specifically?:
lonewolf wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:Gas is 3.75 a gallon. Everyone stand and give Obama a big round of applause. He is doing such a great job.
Don't worry! He's going to (what else) talk about it tomorrow!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... 0VXm3n08ao

Just one word from his lips and the deaf begin to hear!
lonewolf wrote: Now that the math lesson is over, it seems that a grammar lesson is in order.
Perhaps a little writing lesson for you, numb-numb:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/colloquial

a : used in or characteristic of familiar and informal conversation; also : unacceptably informal
b : using conversational style

In the first place, use of colloquialism in creative writing is a way of moving the point ahead, especially in informal settings, such as when I'm making you look like an idiot. You may purport yourself to be the all-knowing master of time, space and dimension, but at the end of the day, you have two writing speeds: boring, and self-important. In short, I'm more knowledgeable about all things verbal than you.
In the second place, I have no real desire to jump through your little hoops, and simply choose not to do so. If you don't like how I write, go away, free man.
I hope you learned something from this exercise in futility, but I trust you did not.
It still doesn't excuse he fact that you blamed high gas prices on Bush, but not Obama. With Bush it was all his fault. With Obama you say there is nothing a President can do about it. When Romney gets elected, you will go back to blaming him again. Why is that? Because there is no way a Liberal cam do any wrong, but a Republican is nothing but wrong. That just shows that you are a hypocrite.

Just like your comparison with the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. You claim Occupy Wall Street has done nothing wrong, and the Tea Party should all be in jail. It is obvious that you been listening to the left wing wacko sites too much.

Gas goes down .10 cents and you liberals are running to the hills to praise your messiah, and say that he is the one that has come to save us all and he is the chosen one. If the messiah is all of a sudden responsible for the low gas prices, he is also responsible for the high gas prices.

In your ways of spinning things it is Obama's responsibility for lowering them and Bush's fault that they go up. Blame everyone for things going bad except your master there johnny.
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songsmith wrote:In the first place, use of colloquialism in creative writing is a way of moving the point ahead, especially in informal settings, such as when I'm making you look like an idiot. You may purport yourself to be the all-knowing master of time, space and dimension, but at the end of the day, you have two writing speeds: boring, and self-important. In short, I'm more knowledgeable about all things verbal than you.
In the second place, I have no real desire to jump through your little hoops, and simply choose not to do so. If you don't like how I write, go away, free man.
I hope you learned something from this exercise in futility, but I trust you did not.
Notice how the subject first insults me and then does precisely what he has claimed that I do.

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lonewolf wrote: .....According to your link, the push-pull of gasoline is between the chance of instability from Iran (upward pressure) and effects from the poor economy (downward pressure).
According to MY link, I established that the push-pull of gasoline between the chance of instability from Iran, the effects of a poor economy, and I will add the obvious influence of Wall St. Notice no mention of Obama. The Braintrust ran with that for months. SOMEBODY'S blaming Obama for high gas prices. As they fall, against the will of the Rockpage Braintrust and rightwingers everywhere, the angst they feel spills onto this page. The inability to spin mildly positive events into horribly negative "news" is going to frustrate the rightwingers to no end this summer.
Rightwing angst is what will lose their elections in November.
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songsmith wrote:
lonewolf wrote: .....According to your link, the push-pull of gasoline is between the chance of instability from Iran (upward pressure) and effects from the poor economy (downward pressure).
According to MY link, I established that the push-pull of gasoline between the chance of instability from Iran, the effects of a poor economy, and I will add the obvious influence of Wall St. Notice no mention of Obama. The Braintrust ran with that for months. SOMEBODY'S blaming Obama for high gas prices. As they fall, against the will of the Rockpage Braintrust and rightwingers everywhere, the angst they feel spills onto this page. The inability to spin mildly positive events into horribly negative "news" is going to frustrate the rightwingers to no end this summer.
Rightwing angst is what will lose their elections in November.
Enjoy.
And you still think that falling .10 cents is great. :roll: Call me when gas is back down to 1.79.

Falling .10 cents isn't a drop. It is a normal fluctuation. Gas is still double what it was when Obama took office. Whose fault is that? Let's put it this way; If Bush was still President, whose fault would it be?
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