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songsmith wrote: When the balloon popped, AIG was "too big to fail," and G-Dub and crew bailed them out, with taxpayer money.
Corndog conveniently forgets that the Kenyan voted for this as a senator.
The mentally-ill conspiracy-theorist conveniently ignores who was president, and who he blames now.
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f.sciarrillo wrote:
Since Obama hasn't changed any policy that Bush passed. .
Untrue. Undoing Cheney/Rove is a slow process with a Do-Nothing Congress under cutting him (Job One, remember), but he does okay.
You mean 2 years with a congressional super-majority, don't you?

Predictable. As if, when Big Bad O had a super-majority, he could have used it without you Tea Party bawl-babies screaming bloody murder and calling it fascism. Tsk-tsk-tsk.
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songsmith wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:
songsmith wrote: When the balloon popped, AIG was "too big to fail," and G-Dub and crew bailed them out, with taxpayer money.
Corndog conveniently forgets that the Kenyan voted for this as a senator.
The mentally-ill conspiracy-theorist conveniently ignores who was president, and who he blames now.
The Kenyan was part of G-Dub's crew when he voted for the bailout. Why do you pretend to ignore this? Fuckin asshole.
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lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote: Untrue. Undoing Cheney/Rove is a slow process with a Do-Nothing Congress under cutting him (Job One, remember), but he does okay.
You mean 2 years with a congressional super-majority, don't you?
Yeah, he keeps negating that fact.
Improper use of the word "negating," college-boy. If I negated the fact that the Dems had a super-majority, they would not have actually had a super-majority. You could have said: ignored, overlooked, omitted, evaded, avoided... I'd have even accepted "pussy-footed around," but, hey, I'm the dumb one in this conversation.
Ordinarily, I let things like this continue "negated," but somebody's got a bad case of big-britches lately.
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f.sciarrillo wrote:
lonewolf wrote: You mean 2 years with a congressional super-majority, don't you?
Yeah, he keeps negating that fact.
Improper use of the word "negating," college-boy. If I negated the fact that the Dems had a super-majority, they would not have actually had a super-majority. You could have said: ignored, overlooked, omitted, evaded, avoided... I'd have even accepted "pussy-footed around," but, hey, I'm the dumb one in this conversation.
Ordinarily, I let things like this continue "negated," but somebody's got a bad case of big-britches lately.
Either way you look at it, dip stick, you neglected to remember that Obama had a super majority for two years and all he did was shove the stimulus and obamacare down our throats. Something that two thirds of the country did not want. Why do you think the dems lost their asses in 2010? Do you also notice that Obama isn't running on either of those? I wonder why Mr. Rocket scientist. I wish he would run on them, mostly because he would be toast and lose by a landslide come this November.

There was a dem controlled senate and house for the last two years of Bush's term. But yet you blame the housing bubble and everything else on Bush, and nothing on Obama. Obama hasn't changed one thing that Bush did, so I am still waiting for you to tell me how everything is Bush's fault, but not obama's fault. Especially when he continued where Bush left off.

I know you won't answer that because you can't. You know if you do, you will have to place blame on your boy toy, and dream man, Obama. Bow down to the one you worship there, Johnny.
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lonewolf wrote: You mean 2 years with a congressional super-majority, don't you?
Yeah, he keeps negating that fact.
He's a DNC parrot. They edited those years out of their political history.
That would make you an RNC/Fox News parrot. See my post about you throwing a temper-tantrum if Obama gets out of bed in the morning. This term, he learned alot about what dicks the right are, and why he should never have reached across the aisle. Next term, -- and oh my, there will be a second term -- he will have what your boy George W. called "political capital" to spend.
As we go on in this election, the Dems will only have to remind folks about the effed-up rightwing policy lately... transvaginal ultra-sounds, defunding Planned Parenthood, bigoted immigration laws, Citizen's United, the strange desire to enrich the 1% even MORE, and that's not even TOUCHING on Mittens Romney! LOL! His flip-flopping, cluelessness about the working man, sick profiteering and job destroying, elitist upbringing, Romneycare, and the super-unnegatable fact that he's the entire right-wing's least-favorite candidate... those are all reasons Biggy Baddy O is going to make you all very frustrated fools in 6 months. :twisted: Hue-man is going to go BERSERK! I can hardly wait... too bad he'll be on "iggy" by then, and nobody hear his rants. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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songsmith wrote: Untrue. Undoing Cheney/Rove is a slow process with a Do-Nothing Congress under cutting him (Job One, remember), but he does okay.
You mean 2 years with a congressional super-majority, don't you?

Predictable. As if, when Big Bad O had a super-majority, he could have used it without you Tea Party bawl-babies screaming bloody murder and calling it fascism. Tsk-tsk-tsk.
The only political bawl babies i have seen are the whiny, bitchy little entitlementist occupy people.

I didn't scream fascism. I screamed flaming socialists when they passed the Porkulus and Obamacare. Porkulus contained their shopping list for everything they wanted since 1994, less Obamacare. Why do you think it was ready to go on day 1?

Oh yeah, there was Dodd-Frank which did nothing to address MBS or CDS, but put a lot of downward pressure on the economy with a lot of unnecessary regulatory bookkeeping. The banks that are still too big to fail are the only ones who can easily absorb the extra costs.

Once they got what they wanted, they were done with their agenda and to hell with policy and the people's business. I don't think they even have any legislation ready that has anything to do with government policy.
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Either way you look at it, dip stick, you neglected to remember that Obama had a super majority for two years and all he did was shove the stimulus and obamacare down our throats. Something that two thirds of the country did not want. Why do you think the dems lost their asses in 2010? Do you also notice that Obama isn't running on either of those? I wonder why Mr. Rocket scientist. I wish he would run on them, mostly because he would be toast and lose by a landslide come this November.

There was a dem controlled senate and house for the last two years of Bush's term. But yet you blame the housing bubble and everything else on Bush, and nothing on Obama. Obama hasn't changed one thing that Bush did, so I am still waiting for you to tell me how everything is Bush's fault, but not obama's fault. Especially when he continued where Bush left off.

I know you won't answer that because you can't. You know if you do, you will have to place blame on your boy toy, and dream man, Obama. Bow down to the one you worship there, Johnny.

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f.sciarrillo wrote: Either way you look at it, dip stick, you neglected to remember that Obama had a super majority for two years and all he did was shove the stimulus and obamacare down our throats. Something that two thirds of the country did not want. Why do you think the dems lost their asses in 2010? Do you also notice that Obama isn't running on either of those? I wonder why Mr. Rocket scientist. I wish he would run on them, mostly because he would be toast and lose by a landslide come this November.

There was a dem controlled senate and house for the last two years of Bush's term. But yet you blame the housing bubble and everything else on Bush, and nothing on Obama. Obama hasn't changed one thing that Bush did, so I am still waiting for you to tell me how everything is Bush's fault, but not obama's fault. Especially when he continued where Bush left off.

I know you won't answer that because you can't. You know if you do, you will have to place blame on your boy toy, and dream man, Obama. Bow down to the one you worship there, Johnny.
Oh, goodness, we touched a nerve, didn't we? Well since you're suddenly feeling your intellectual oats, let's address this in an intellectual manner.
I assure you, I didn't "neglect" the stimuls and Affordable Healthcare Act. Despite what you get from the media teat, the infusion of gov't money appeared to have worked. We were held hostage by banks that destroyed the economy, sending us towards depression... the Bush Admin did pretty much NOTHING about it, they were asleep at the wheel... Rove & Co. were busy hooking up with jobs for after the term, they had better things to do. As soon as the stimulus funds hit the street, the economy improved, albeit not as much as talkshow hosts would like. In short, the stimulus worked. As for health insurance reform, GOOD. The right will have to convince all the seniors getting cheaper drugs that it was a bad idea filling the donut-hole. Try to tell someone who's gravely ill that they're going to re-lose their coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Whether you like it or not, politically, it's a good idea. The GOP had many of it's changes in their bills in the 90's, so they must have felt the political ramifications... they just oppose it now for politics' sake.
The Dems lost their asses in 2010 because they woefully underestimated the power of the rightwing propaganda machine. Remember Glenn Beck standing on the steps with his arms spread wide, in a sea of people? Well guess what? That machine is losing steam at an alarming rate. Beck is gone, couldn't get arrested. Palin is a tabloid joke. Rupert Murdoch is defending phone-tapping dead kids and soldiers. Rush Limbaugh took a THRASHING. Even the Nooge got dixie-chicked. People don't look at that the same way they did in 2010, they're wiser. Two years ago, you didn't dare question the Tea Party. Now it's down to a few tinfoil-hats and doomsday-preppers.
There are alot of things that Obama has accomplished that people like, I listed a bunch of them a few days ago, I'm sure you negated it. I'm not completely sure where you guys get your election info, but the GOP is not in a good place. The party's been bitterly divided by the swing to the far-right. A lot of hard-right candidates vied to be the Mostest Conservative, and their fortunes rose and fell as people realized how maybe extremism and stupidity isn't the best way to go. Those debates were the GOP's undoing. Even the most hardened conservative eventually asked, "Why are they doing this?" Add to that the loss of the female vote, via Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santorum, and the news isn't good for the Republicans. I think they have to be scrambling right now. Marco Rubio's busy trying to sell a Republican DREAM Act, to woo Latinos, but the talkshow fans will not have it, it'll likely die.
Again, I'd like to remind you: Barack Obama is a MASTER politicker. That whole Teleprompter nonsense is pure sour grapes, he can give a stump speech. Remember when they were saying Hillary was a foregone conclusion to get Dem nom... I only hope the GOP does underestimate his support.
As for telling you George Bush is responsible for everything, hey... it's all there in the history books. But you're gonna believe what you believe. I defend Obama only because he's attacked SO much here. I guess you guys have to do as you're told, but that doesn't concern me. I'm just shoveling a little bit of the right-wing bullcrap out of this little corner of the internet.
Incidentally, the "bow down to the one you worship" stuff... where does that come from? I've heard other rightoids say things like that... is it because of the rightwing need to deify their media figures and prominent conservatives? Maybe it's jealousy that nobody on the right had what it took to unite the whackos and point them all in the same direction. Obama's official campaign started yesterday. After a fall and winter of constant lashing from the right, he's still doing pretty well poll-wise. Now comes the actual campaign.
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songsmith wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: Either way you look at it, dip stick, you neglected to remember that Obama had a super majority for two years and all he did was shove the stimulus and obamacare down our throats. Something that two thirds of the country did not want. Why do you think the dems lost their asses in 2010? Do you also notice that Obama isn't running on either of those? I wonder why Mr. Rocket scientist. I wish he would run on them, mostly because he would be toast and lose by a landslide come this November.

There was a dem controlled senate and house for the last two years of Bush's term. But yet you blame the housing bubble and everything else on Bush, and nothing on Obama. Obama hasn't changed one thing that Bush did, so I am still waiting for you to tell me how everything is Bush's fault, but not obama's fault. Especially when he continued where Bush left off.

I know you won't answer that because you can't. You know if you do, you will have to place blame on your boy toy, and dream man, Obama. Bow down to the one you worship there, Johnny.
Oh, goodness, we touched a nerve, didn't we? Well since you're suddenly feeling your intellectual oats, let's address this in an intellectual manner.
I assure you, I didn't "neglect" the stimuls and Affordable Healthcare Act. Despite what you get from the media teat, the infusion of gov't money appeared to have worked. We were held hostage by banks that destroyed the economy, sending us towards depression... the Bush Admin did pretty much NOTHING about it, they were asleep at the wheel... Rove & Co. were busy hooking up with jobs for after the term, they had better things to do. As soon as the stimulus funds hit the street, the economy improved, albeit not as much as talkshow hosts would like. In short, the stimulus worked. As for health insurance reform, GOOD. The right will have to convince all the seniors getting cheaper drugs that it was a bad idea filling the donut-hole. Try to tell someone who's gravely ill that they're going to re-lose their coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Whether you like it or not, politically, it's a good idea. The GOP had many of it's changes in their bills in the 90's, so they must have felt the political ramifications... they just oppose it now for politics' sake.
The Dems lost their asses in 2010 because they woefully underestimated the power of the rightwing propaganda machine. Remember Glenn Beck standing on the steps with his arms spread wide, in a sea of people? Well guess what? That machine is losing steam at an alarming rate. Beck is gone, couldn't get arrested. Palin is a tabloid joke. Rupert Murdoch is defending phone-tapping dead kids and soldiers. Rush Limbaugh took a THRASHING. Even the Nooge got dixie-chicked. People don't look at that the same way they did in 2010, they're wiser. Two years ago, you didn't dare question the Tea Party. Now it's down to a few tinfoil-hats and doomsday-preppers.
There are alot of things that Obama has accomplished that people like, I listed a bunch of them a few days ago, I'm sure you negated it. I'm not completely sure where you guys get your election info, but the GOP is not in a good place. The party's been bitterly divided by the swing to the far-right. A lot of hard-right candidates vied to be the Mostest Conservative, and their fortunes rose and fell as people realized how maybe extremism and stupidity isn't the best way to go. Those debates were the GOP's undoing. Even the most hardened conservative eventually asked, "Why are they doing this?" Add to that the loss of the female vote, via Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santorum, and the news isn't good for the Republicans. I think they have to be scrambling right now. Marco Rubio's busy trying to sell a Republican DREAM Act, to woo Latinos, but the talkshow fans will not have it, it'll likely die.
Again, I'd like to remind you: Barack Obama is a MASTER politicker. That whole Teleprompter nonsense is pure sour grapes, he can give a stump speech. Remember when they were saying Hillary was a foregone conclusion to get Dem nom... I only hope the GOP does underestimate his support.
As for telling you George Bush is responsible for everything, hey... it's all there in the history books. But you're gonna believe what you believe. I defend Obama only because he's attacked SO much here. I guess you guys have to do as you're told, but that doesn't concern me. I'm just shoveling a little bit of the right-wing bullcrap out of this little corner of the internet.
Incidentally, the "bow down to the one you worship" stuff... where does that come from? I've heard other rightoids say things like that... is it because of the rightwing need to deify their media figures and prominent conservatives? Maybe it's jealousy that nobody on the right had what it took to unite the whackos and point them all in the same direction. Obama's official campaign started yesterday. After a fall and winter of constant lashing from the right, he's still doing pretty well poll-wise. Now comes the actual campaign.
Buckle up, Frank.
You blame banks, bush, repubs, aliens from mars, the tin man and cowardly lion - Hell you even blame toto the dog; but never Obama. Typical, typical. You just go ahead and keep believing what the occupiers and left wing wacko sites tell you. You will see in November when Obama loses. He is losing traction and it isn't looking good.

Obama hasn't changed one thing that Bush did. But yet to you liberals he is the greatest thing since Pontius Pilate. Yawn. Keep believing what you hear johnny. I can't wait till Romney gets elected and you are blaming everything on him. Then I will just call you a hypocrite.
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What can I call you when (R)money loses? Oops, the "ignore" button should be installed by then, there'll be no need for a victory dance, nobody will hear the tune. :twisted:
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Gosh, what happened to that "record" gasoline price the right wanted this summer?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/05 ... ne-prices/

If Big Bad O's responsible for the increasing, he HAS to be responsible for them falling! :P
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Oops, (R)money shuts the hell up, after claiming he saved the auto-industry:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 8764.story
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songsmith wrote:Gosh, what happened to that "record" gasoline price the right wanted this summer?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/05 ... ne-prices/

If Big Bad O's responsible for the increasing, he HAS to be responsible for them falling! :P
If Bush is responsible for the rising, so is Obama. And a ten cent drop is nothing. I still payed 40.00 to fill my tank up today. It is still double what it was when Obama took over. So keep trying to talk up the failure, you are just making yourself look like a fool.
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What? This can't be right! Obama's a socialist, there's no such thing as a "surplus" in socialism! And it's a FOX News affiliate reporting! Oh my God, that Beck-pocalypse is actually HAPPENING!!!

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpps/news/us ... v_19758445
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songsmith wrote:What? This can't be right! Obama's a socialist, there's no such thing as a "surplus" in socialism! And it's a FOX News affiliate reporting! Oh my God, that Beck-pocalypse is actually HAPPENING!!!

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpps/news/us ... v_19758445
OH MY GOD! There is a surplus! Wow, this is the first one he had since he got elected. Oh boy! Maybe he will pass his first budget now (which he hasn't done yet). Everyone hurry up and run to the hills to shout his praises. Obama has done one thing good.
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Obama leads in battle-ground states Iowa and TP/GOP stronghold, Ohio:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/05/0 ... iowa-ohio/

Virginia, too. He only JUST started his campaign, while the other side's been bashing him for 3 1/2 yrs.
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songsmith wrote:Gosh, what happened to that "record" gasoline price the right wanted this summer?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/05 ... ne-prices/

If Big Bad O's responsible for the increasing, he HAS to be responsible for them falling! :P
You betcha! The economy sucks so bad that there is even less demand for gasoline this summer.

There are very few things that government can do to improve the economy, but there are at least a million things they can do to wreck it. I think Obama has either tried or is considering every one of the latter.
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songsmith wrote:What? This can't be right! Obama's a socialist, there's no such thing as a "surplus" in socialism! And it's a FOX News affiliate reporting! Oh my God, that Beck-pocalypse is actually HAPPENING!!!

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpps/news/us ... v_19758445
LOL! April...federal tax collection month...LOL!

The feds rarely run a deficit for the month of April...at least not until Obama took office!

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songsmith wrote:Obama leads in battle-ground states Iowa and TP/GOP stronghold, Ohio:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/05/0 ... iowa-ohio/

Virginia, too. He only JUST started his campaign, while the other side's been bashing him for 3 1/2 yrs.
I just love the polling company:

"Public Policy Polling (PPP) is an American polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina. PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman and Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and chief executive officer."

.......

"Many PPP election polls were commissioned by the liberal website Dailykos, although the company states that most of its revenue comes from other sources."
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lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote:Obama leads in battle-ground states Iowa and TP/GOP stronghold, Ohio:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/05/0 ... iowa-ohio/

Virginia, too. He only JUST started his campaign, while the other side's been bashing him for 3 1/2 yrs.
I just love the polling company:

"Public Policy Polling (PPP) is an American polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina. PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman and Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and chief executive officer."

.......

"Many PPP election polls were commissioned by the liberal website Dailykos, although the company states that most of its revenue comes from other sources."
A liberal pollster? Gee I wonder what demographic he asked? You don't think he would cheat do you? Na, not the democrats, they never cheat. /sarcasm
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f.sciarrillo wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
songsmith wrote:Obama leads in battle-ground states Iowa and TP/GOP stronghold, Ohio:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/05/0 ... iowa-ohio/

Virginia, too. He only JUST started his campaign, while the other side's been bashing him for 3 1/2 yrs.
I just love the polling company:

"Public Policy Polling (PPP) is an American polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina. PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman and Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and chief executive officer."

.......

"Many PPP election polls were commissioned by the liberal website Dailykos, although the company states that most of its revenue comes from other sources."
A liberal pollster? Gee I wonder what demographic he asked? You don't think he would cheat do you? Na, not the democrats, they never cheat. /sarcasm
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