THE POLITICAL ARENA!!! Political Gladiators Inside!!

[f.sciarrillo]

The RNC has been circulating a "Pundit Prep" sheet outlining what they want the screech-owls in the wingnut media to say, and they say it. It says to
attack Obama on 1) unemployment, 2) the national debt, and 3) gas prices.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201202200003
Jon Stewart did a monologue on it that pretty much destroys it, and the Braintrust's blind faith in Fox. Here it is on video:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart- ... mber-2008/

All things that the liberals attacked Bush on. Big time. You must have forgotten that, well, you chose to forget that. As for media matters, they are nothing but a site to repute Foxnews. That is all they do. They are not a real news organization. They are ran by the largest funder of the democratic party, George Soros. So don't give me any of the crap they spew. They are more bias than MSNBC.....

Now I know where some of your sources are.

Watch the video. The source is Fox & Friends. And perhaps those were issues Bush was attacked on... but not by Fox News. And you're correct, Fox News is not a news organization, they are the propaganda wing of the Republican Party, owned and operated by foreign billionaire/soon-to-be-inmate, Rupert Murdoch. As long as Murdoch has anything to do with American politics, the name George Soros is irrelevant. If there's one, there HAS to be the other. Just because you don't like him, doesn't make one right, and the other wrong. See: difference between opinion and fact.

Oh, and Media Matters... you're not SUPPOSED to like fact-checking organizations, they cripple Fox News, with facts. They ride Fox News, because Fox News needs to be fact-checked on every sentence of every story they broadcast. If they didn't lie so much, there'd be no reason to report the lies.
Fox News... We Distort, You Deride.

Putting words into my mouth again. You must be running out of things to ramble about. Media matter is a propaganda machine. If fox news said the sky was blue, Media matters would come out say it was purple just to try and prove them wrong. That is all they do. If they were a fact based organization they would be doing the same thing to MSNBC. But they don't because they are against fox news and not MSNBC. I believe George Soros also funds MSNBC. Why wouldn't he, he already funds Obama and the rest of the Democratic party, so he might as well fund the biggest megaphone for the liberals.

Find another source for your information. I don't want it from a liberal biased site like media matters and msnbc.

[f.sciarrillo]

True Unemployment is at 36%. Interesting.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=49644

False. If they said the true unemployment rate was 112%, you'd believe it, without actually questioning how they arrived at that. More rightwing blog-posting, eh? Wasted effort.

Looking at the unemployment rate and the people who gave up looking for work, which you don't count; that would hurt your hero, obama, too much; I believe it is that high. I don't need a right or left winged site to tell me that. I will give you time to look for the info from Media matters and MSNBC. Seeing that you believe everything they say. OR do you have the White House on speed dial?

[Banned]

20 Economic Statistics To Use To Wake Sheeple Up From Their Entertainment-Induced Comas

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... uced-comas

Some examples:

"#8 Right now, there are 88 million working age Americans that do not have jobs and that the government says are not looking for jobs."

"#10 In January 2009, there were 2.6 million "long-term unemployed workers" according to the federal government. Today, there are 5.6 million."

"#16 The U.S. government is stealing about 150 million dollars from our children and our grandchildren every single hour of every single day.

#17 If Bill Gates gave all of his money to the U.S. government, it would only cover the U.S. budget deficit for about 15 days.

#18 Since the Federal Reserve was created, the U.S. dollar has declined in value by more than 95 percent and the U.S. national debt has gotten more than 5000 times larger."

Wonder how the ranting delusional troll will spin this?

Notice the delusional troll ignored all these facts?

Those are not facts, those are wild conjectures. They are not based upon any known statistics or widely-accepted knowledge, they are pure fiction and spun misinformation. Post something you didn't get from one of your self-validation fascism-blogs, and when you refer to me, stop using the phrase "delusional troll," because it's just silly as fuck when posited by a delusional troll.
You define nothing. You're simply angry and frustrated because I keep the whole bunch of you at bay, with very little effort. It's quite easy, because you, in particular, have chosen to follow the furthest path from sanity, and have squandered any respect people might have mistakenly given you on wild conspiracies and homo-erotic hero-worship.

Lets take the first point, #8 in the link. The source is from The San Francisco Chronicle, a left leaning paper. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 1N3RH8.DTL Non trolls would have known this if they read the article.

"Number of the day

88 million

That's how many working-age Americans don't have a job and aren't trying to find one. The increase in people dropping out of the labor market altogether skews the otherwise-positive unemployment numbers released last week. While the jobless rate fell to 8.3 percent in January - a three-year low - it doesn't account for this army of nonworking Americans. The percentage of people participating in the labor market dropped to 63.7 percent last month, the lowest level since May 1983."

The normal ranting troll response does not work then does it?

[lonewolf]

Notice the delusional troll ignored all these facts?

Those are not facts, those are wild conjectures. They are not based upon any known statistics or widely-accepted knowledge, they are pure fiction and spun misinformation. Post something you didn't get from one of your self-validation fascism-blogs, and when you refer to me, stop using the phrase "delusional troll," because it's just silly as fuck when posited by a delusional troll.
You define nothing. You're simply angry and frustrated because I keep the whole bunch of you at bay, with very little effort. It's quite easy, because you, in particular, have chosen to follow the furthest path from sanity, and have squandered any respect people might have mistakenly given you on wild conspiracies and homo-erotic hero-worship.

Its amazing how many words it takes you just to say "NUH-UHHHH"

(heard with an adolescent inflection).

[songsmith]

Who's next to post some whacked-out rightwing blog-link? I can hardly wait!

The anger and pissiness are just PALPABLE lately! You can sense the resignation on the right, the begrudging acceptance of what's coming, a 2nd term for Big Bad Obama. The best part is, 6 months ago, they actually had a CHANCE, but instead put on a three-ring circus of "debates," showing their true colors, while America watched, cringing. Then, the current Congress obstructed progress at every turn, while re-litigating old wedge-issues like abortion rights, fair taxation, and even birth-control. All the while, screaming about government, in an attempt to control... government.
Admit it. The Tea Party was a bad idea. A really, REALLY bad idea. It obviously did not represent the views of anything near a majority of Americans, and in retrospect, was simply an attempt by the rightwing media to undermine the outcome of the 2008 elections. (You'll recall a certain Rockpage regular who called that from the beginning.) What it actually accomplished WAS historic, and far-reaching. It splintered the conservative vote into many fractions, the God-n-Guns'ers, the Libertarians, the elderly SocSec/Medicare recipients, the Reaganite establishmentarians, warhawks, the One Percent, the bigots, the Evangelicals, and countless others. The Tea Party-led attempt at government takeover failed miserably, after the Bush Administration failed miserably (perhaps because of it), and now the entire rightwing political spectrum is paying the price for hardline ideology.
If you think life is tough now, wait until summer. MAJOR repercussions will occur, I think, as far-right operatives become more and more desperate. I don't wish to conjecture what will happen specifically, but it could get violent.
All in all, the recent rise in wild blog-posting here is indicative of the overall mood of the right: doubling-down on what their media feeds them, stepping up personal attacks, bitterness and frustration in every sentence.
Good!

[f.sciarrillo]

Who's next to post some whacked-out rightwing blog-link? I can hardly wait!

You post nothing but whacked out leftwing blogs and sites. Kettle=black?

[songsmith]

[Lets take the first point, #8 in the link. The source is from The San Francisco Chronicle, a left leaning paper. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 1N3RH8.DTL Non trolls would have known this if they read the article.

"Number of the day

88 million

That's how many working-age Americans don't have a job and aren't trying to find one. The increase in people dropping out of the labor market altogether skews the otherwise-positive unemployment numbers released last week. While the jobless rate fell to 8.3 percent in January - a three-year low - it doesn't account for this army of nonworking Americans. The percentage of people participating in the labor market dropped to 63.7 percent last month, the lowest level since May 1983."

The normal ranting troll response does not work then does it?

Yes, let's look at that figure, 88 million people. My source, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, says that, "...The number of unemployed persons declined to 12.8 million in January." Now, I know 12.8 million is VERY close to 88 million, but ... wait... 12.8 million is VERY FAR from 88 million. The same article also says that, "...The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons, at 8.2 million, changed little in January. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job."
Now we're up to 21 million people unemployed or working part-time due to the economy... still not 88 million. Let's see who else is in there:
"...Among the marginally attached, there were 1.1 million discouraged
workers in January, little different from a year earlier. (The data
are not seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not
currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available
for them. The remaining 1.7 million persons marginally attached to the
labor force in January had not searched for work in the 4 weeks
preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family
responsibilities."
Okay, using simple addition, we're now at a grand total of 22.8 million people who are unemployed or under-employed, including those who work part-time for any reason, and weren't actively looking. Here's the link, Huey:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
Here's the part you won't post, from that same page: Private sector employment grew by 257,000 jobs. Unemployment rate down .2%, to 8.3% Leading sectors include manufacturing, food and hospitality, healthcare, and wholesale trade. Incidentally, government employment remained unchanged, after losing 276,000 jobs in a year, due to the Tea Party witch-hunt. Government is NOT growing.

Now, on to the next bullshit assertion.

[songsmith]

Who's next to post some whacked-out rightwing blog-link? I can hardly wait!

You post nothing but whacked out leftwing blogs and sites. Kettle=black?

What leftwing blogs? I told you in the last few days, that if you posted rightwing blogs I would post left-wing blogs. Is that somehow not fair to you?
You're getting owned today, Frank. You really have to work on that difference between what your opinion is, and what fact is. If you disagree with something, that doesn't make it wrong. Facts make things correct or incorrect, not your opinion.

[f.sciarrillo]

Who's next to post some whacked-out rightwing blog-link? I can hardly wait!

You post nothing but whacked out leftwing blogs and sites. Kettle=black?

What leftwing blogs? I told you in the last few days, that if you posted rightwing blogs I would post left-wing blogs. Is that somehow not fair to you?
You're getting owned today, Frank. You really have to work on that difference between what your opinion is, and what fact is. If you disagree with something, that doesn't make it wrong. Facts make things correct or incorrect, not your opinion.

What facts? You posted Mediamatters.org and MSNBC. They are leftwing opinion sites, not fact sites. You aren't owning anything. The only thing you are doing is showing that your main source of information is Media Matters and MSNBC. You believe anything the leftwing media, and White house, says. And also showing that you are in no way shape or form an independent. But are in fact, a liberal.

[Banned]

Using the Obomunism government as your source is beyond surreal.

[Banned]

That's like believing Obama when he said he would lower the deficit by half.

[f.sciarrillo]

That's like believing Obama when he said he would lower the deficit by half.

It will take years to lower the deficit. There is no way that any President could do it in their term. They can sure try though, which is what obama is not doing.

[lonewolf]

Ah yes, the BLS. That solid rock of information we can all count on.

According to BLS, there are 88.784 million who can work, but aren't working. Another look at the same chart shows that *82.289 million of these people "do not want a job now" and *6.495 million "want a job" and don't have one.

*includes some persons who are not asked if they want a job.

^^^this tells me that the tabulated data may be in error without further explanation.

For all we know 90% were "not asked" and the sample is flawed.

The U.S.B.L.S.---either utterly incompetent or utterly crooked.

http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea38.htm

edit: I inquired about the discrepancy and got this response:

"For example, some of the people who are counted within the group ‘Want a job’ indicated earlier that they were on layoff, but they were not available to work the week prior to being surveyed. They were asked the reason they were not available for work that week, and those who gave certain reasons such as ‘attending school’ were counted as not in the labor force rather than as unemployed. People in this group were not then asked if they want a job, because they already had a job to which they would have returned if they were not still on layoff.

In the case of those who do not want a job now, some people were included in this group without having been asked if they want a job now because they had indicated earlier that they were not working due to retirement or disability."

[songsmith]

Using the Obomunism government as your source is beyond surreal.

There is nothing I could post that would make this seem any more insane.

[f.sciarrillo]

Andrew Breibart dead.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/ ... AV20120301

[Banned]

Using the Obomunism government as your source is beyond surreal.

There is nothing I could post that would make this seem any more insane.

Yep, you were one of those who really believed the Kenyan when he ran on cutting the deficit in half.

Psst....anyone who does not believe in your delusional world is sane.

[songsmith]

What facts? You posted Mediamatters.org and MSNBC. They are leftwing opinion sites, not fact sites. You aren't owning anything. The only thing you are doing is showing that your main source of information is Media Matters and MSNBC. You believe anything the leftwing media, and White house, says. And also showing that you are in no way shape or form an independent. But are in fact, a liberal.

So fact-check it, dood. Make sure your sources are sterling, though, because I'm going to make a point of popping your bubble.

Oh, and WHAT IF I WAS A LIBERAL? Is that bad? Do you still use the word, "liberal" as an epithet, a slur? I'm asking because that's EXACTLY why nobody really wants to hear a conservative viewpoint anymore, and why the talkshow turds are circling the toilet-bowl, on their way down the drain.
If I was a liberal, what would/could you do about it? Even if I was a Marxist quoting straight from the Red Book, I still keep your sh*t pretty well-chilled, all any of you can do is say, "Nuh-UH!" and post other people's opinion-blogs.

[songsmith]

Yep, you were one of those who really believed the Kenyan when he ran on cutting the deficit in half.

Psst....anyone who does not believe in your delusional world is sane.

How'd your Messiah, Ronald Reagan do at cutting the deficit? HE DIDN'T, HE TRIPLED IT.

President Obama was born in Hawaii, by the way. Doubling down on the Birther thing is the single biggest proof of your mental state.

You are wholly unqualified to judge what is sane or insane. You are mentally ill. Plus, I'd get that "Psst" thing checked. You seem to have developed an air leak, 'cause I know you're not talking down to ME.

[Banned]

Yep, you were one of those who really believed the Kenyan when he ran on cutting the deficit in half.

Psst....anyone who does not believe in your delusional world is sane.

How'd your Messiah, Ronald Reagan do at cutting the deficit? HE DIDN'T, HE TRIPLED IT.

President Obama was born in Hawaii, by the way. Doubling down on the Birther thing is the single biggest proof of your mental state.

You are wholly unqualified to judge what is sane or insane. You are mentally ill. Plus, I'd get that "Psst" thing checked. You seem to have developed an air leak, 'cause I know you're not talking down to ME.

Everyone talks down to you stumpy.

[f.sciarrillo]

What facts? You posted Mediamatters.org and MSNBC. They are leftwing opinion sites, not fact sites. You aren't owning anything. The only thing you are doing is showing that your main source of information is Media Matters and MSNBC. You believe anything the leftwing media, and White house, says. And also showing that you are in no way shape or form an independent. But are in fact, a liberal.

So fact-check it, dood. Make sure your sources are sterling, though, because I'm going to make a point of popping your bubble.

Oh, and WHAT IF I WAS A LIBERAL? Is that bad? Do you still use the word, "liberal" as an epithet, a slur? I'm asking because that's EXACTLY why nobody really wants to hear a conservative viewpoint anymore, and why the talkshow turds are circling the toilet-bowl, on their way down the drain.
If I was a liberal, what would/could you do about it? Even if I was a Marxist quoting straight from the Red Book, I still keep your sh*t pretty well-chilled, all any of you can do is say, "Nuh-UH!" and post other people's opinion-blogs.

You claim to be an independent, but nothing you say points to it. Everything you say points to you being a liberal. So do yourself a favor and register democrat. You aren't fooling anyone you know If you were a true independent, you wouldn't be cheerleading for the left as much as you are. Is George Soros giving you an allowance also?

All you do is post from Mediamatters and MSNBC. Both opinion sites. No other sources but those two

[lonewolf]

Sheriff Joe's birther findings live! Announced today:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sherif ... ve-stream/

[f.sciarrillo]

Sheriff Joe's birther findings live! Announced today:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sherif ... ve-stream/

Interesting. They were saying about wanting a congressional investigation. I can guarantee that if Obama was a republican, you would see every liberal paper and tv station, like MSNBC, calling for it.

This is going to be my last political post for a while. I am getting bored with this.

[songsmith]

I can guarantee that if Obama was a republican, you would see every liberal paper and tv station, like MSNBC, calling for it.

This is going to be my last political post for a while. I am getting bored with this.

If Obama was a Republican, nobody would question his birthplace.

See ya!

[songsmith]

Sheriff Joe's birther findings live! Announced today:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sherif ... ve-stream/

What do YOU make of it? Is it doctored, as Huey maintains, or is it real?

[songsmith]

You claim to be an independent, but nothing you say points to it. Everything you say points to you being a liberal. So do yourself a favor and register democrat.
All you do is post from Mediamatters and MSNBC. Both opinion sites. No other sources but those two

I am an independent, it's not your call. You WANT me to say things you agree with, but the Braintrust is FAR from independent, and my role here is to keep them from thinking they have any authority, here or anywhere else. If I say things you don't agree with, that's too bad. Independent thought specifically FORBIDS me from being one of your sheep, so, sorry I don't kiss your behind.
Now, maybe I'll post about a zillion sources I've used just in the last week or two, like Wall St. Journal, Fox News, Christian Science Monitor, and a bunch of other rightwing sources... but maybe you could just click back a few pages, and save me the effort. And MediaMatters is a fact-checking organization. MSN.com is my homepage, and has been since I graduated from AOL.com in 1996. It's a news site, though you can link to opinion sites like Slate, entertainment sites, sports sites, even Fox News. On the other hand, you nimrods post from Newsbusters and economiccollapse.com. Read the other articles on those pages. If they have a bunch of Tea Party-type articles, and say words like "Prosperity," "Heritage," and "Values," they're biased rightwing. If they feature articles about the ultra-rich abusing their authority, and feature words like "Progress," "Equality," and "Rights," they're left wing. If they have stories about non-political, non-religious stuff, and news stories about things happening in the world, they're probably a news site.
It's pretty easy to figure out, actually. try it.