THE POLITICAL ARENA!!! Political Gladiators Inside!!

[songsmith]

Hahahahaha. Thanks for clarifying that you have never been anywhere near an investment. You don't "handle" things with local guys.

Thanks for also clarifying that I am a 1%er. I really didn't think I was. I will wear it as a badge of honor because I left my parents at 19 in a '75 Ford Granada with two suitcases, an Ibanez Les Paul, a Marshall 100W head and $100 cash and never looked back.

I must not have been very bright or ambitious.

I am done with this pettiness. Get back on thread and tell me why all your statist/populist dogma would improve our lives.

Yes, I did fudge a number...on how many gigs I would have to do to equal sitting here doing whatever I like. As it turns out, I was low. Add 11 to that number...TD Ameritrade always seems to find something that I left out:

http://rockpage.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.ph ... rge#231976

I'm not going to continue a discussion about how awesome you are, because you're sliding back into oblivion, on pretty much every front. Go ahead and fudge your paycheck, I really don't care if you claim to make a hundred million, most of us understand the real dynamic here. Rich or poor, delusion is delusion.
I left my parents with a '72 Comet and a yard-sale Stella Harmony. That's even less than you had, there, moneybags. Must have been nice. You were practically born with a silver spoon in your mouth, by comparison, so save the rags-to-riches bull for someone else, 'cause I'm not buying it.
I LOL'ed at the number of gigs you'd have to play to equal what you made outside your band... nearly 5000 shows? That's like 200,000 empty chairs!
Face it, you're just pissy because I've been using Jeff against Jeff. I've been flummoxing you since the get-go, and flouting your self-perceived "authority" against you, and it's not even really all that difficult. It actually gets EASIER as time goes by, especially since the downfall of the Tea Party took away hardliners' identity.
As for my investment portfolio, and my local guy (who is a local musician, and whom I happen to like)... I don't really need your approval. My bills are all covered, and I never complain about money. I can, and have, lived on nothing, for long periods of time, and I'm reasonably good at it. You can project your ideals on me, if it helps you feel better about yourself, but the truth is, I never felt the need to measure up to your standards. Not even a little. You have little I want, and nothing I need.
Now on with the show.

[songsmith]

RoPaul's "Revolution PAC" run by 9/11 Truther who believes in FEMA concentration camps for conservative dissenters, and the New World Order. Of course, flip-flopping whacko talkshow-host Alex Jones is involved.

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/ ... 11-truther

Here it is from a right-wing blog, so joe can believe it:

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/178389/ ... r-patriot/

[Banned]

stumpy lying again. He wants anyone with more than him to be punished by his corrupt authoritarian government. He wants your money by proxy, he does not have the balls to go and get some on his own.

He loves when anyone who has more than him ( a verrrrry long list) has their property stolen by his favorite fascist government. He ends up getting some of it anyway. That earned income tax credit is just like stealing from rich people. Oh wait, that is what it is.

[Banned]

The Democrat Convention is for the 1%.

"One of the options is the $1 million “Presidential” level, which includes a “premier uptown hotel room” and “concierge services,” as well as the $500,000 “Gold Rush” package."

http://freebeacon.com/concierge-convent ... charlotte/

...so much for the Democrat party being for the little people.

[lonewolf]

I left my parents with a '72 Comet and a yard-sale Stella Harmony. That's even less than you had, there, moneybags. Must have been nice. You were practically born with a silver spoon in your mouth, by comparison, so save the rags-to-riches bull for someone else, 'cause I'm not buying it.

I retired wealthy at 48 after hard work in several different professional disciplines.

By 48, you have broken away from PA minimum wage running a cash register.

A regular rags to washcloths story!

Good job Johnny! You are an inspiration for generations!

[shredder138]

stumpy lying again. He wants anyone with more than him to be punished by his corrupt authoritarian government. He wants your money by proxy, he does not have the balls to go and get some on his own.

He loves when anyone who has more than him ( a verrrrry long list) has their property stolen by his favorite fascist government. He ends up getting some of it anyway. That earned income tax credit is just like stealing from rich people. Oh wait, that is what it is.

Sounds like someone's just upset cause stumpy seems to be happy with his life. And that, my friend, is very sad.

[shredder138]

Do some of you gladiators make a game to see how much respect for you can be lost on a daily basis? Sure seems like it, and I'm not talking about stumpy.

[songsmith]

I retired wealthy at 48 after hard work in several different professional disciplines.

By 48, you have broken away from PA minimum wage running a cash register.

A regular rags to washcloths story!

Good job Johnny! You are an inspiration for generations!

I think you retired "wealthy," as opposed to wealthy, if being forced out can be considered "retiring." I guess it worked for joe, too. You two are showing yourselves more alike every day. Maybe you should start a band and show the rest of us amateurs how it's done.

I'll run that cash register all day long, too. I work for people I genuinely like, and hang out with musicians every day I'm there. It's satisfying having so many friends, and fans-- oooooh, sore subject, huh.
Keep your "money." I have enough. If success is you, I'd rather stay me.

[songsmith]

stumpy lying again. He wants anyone with more than him to be punished by his corrupt authoritarian government. He wants your money by proxy, he does not have the balls to go and get some on his own.

He loves when anyone who has more than him ( a verrrrry long list) has their property stolen by his favorite fascist government. He ends up getting some of it anyway. That earned income tax credit is just like stealing from rich people. Oh wait, that is what it is.

Lying about what, uajoe? Oh, that's right, you don't understand anything that's phrased in the form of a question. What an odd form of mental retardation you have! A post about your spooge-target, Ron Paul, and all you can do is attack me with the same dead horse you always do... "blah-blah, government bad, blah-blah, want Ron Paul so bad, blah-blah, socialist, blah-blah, earned income credit, blah-blah, Kenyan."
ANSWER.
THE.
QUESTION!

What is it you think I envy about the rich?

[lonewolf]

I think you retired "wealthy," as opposed to wealthy, if being forced out can be considered "retiring."

Since I was not of "retirement age" and was only there 10 years, I didn't expect a retirement party, but they gave me one anyway. The brass rarely went to these parties, but everyone in the room was taken by surprise when the VP and heir-apparent to the company walked in. CEOs and the like don't show up to honor people who were "forced out", but you already know that, don't you?

BTW, i didn't get a chance to edit my last post. I was going to thank you for pointing out to me the huge gap between "next to nothing" and "almost nothing". My bad. I'll try to be more aware of these kinds of things in the future.

[Banned]

stumpy lying again. He wants anyone with more than him to be punished by his corrupt authoritarian government. He wants your money by proxy, he does not have the balls to go and get some on his own.

He loves when anyone who has more than him ( a verrrrry long list) has their property stolen by his favorite fascist government. He ends up getting some of it anyway. That earned income tax credit is just like stealing from rich people. Oh wait, that is what it is.

Lying about what, uajoe? Oh, that's right, you don't understand anything that's phrased in the form of a question. What an odd form of mental retardation you have! A post about your spooge-target, Ron Paul, and all you can do is attack me with the same dead horse you always do... "blah-blah, government bad, blah-blah, want Ron Paul so bad, blah-blah, socialist, blah-blah, earned income credit, blah-blah, Kenyan."
ANSWER.
THE.
QUESTION!

What is it you think I envy about the rich?

The lie where you said to Lonewolf that he has nothing you want. You lie. You want your corrupt, authoritarian government to take his money and redistribute it to you.

Just the same way you want money stolen from anyone who has more than you. You have the balls of an 88 years old nun, so you won't try to better your life on your own. You need the nanny government to do it for you. Low life liberal socialists. You are disgusting.

Your class envy is embarrassing to normal people and your worship of a redistributive, corrupt government is shameful.

[songsmith]

You are just completely looney. I'm almost starting to feel bad for you, but hey, you did it to yourself.
What a strange little man you are.

[lonewolf]

Do some of you gladiators make a game to see how much respect for you can be lost on a daily basis? Sure seems like it, and I'm not talking about stumpy.

YES I DO! Its great fun to write a short, thoughtful opinion about a political subject and get a response filled with lies, namecalling and innuendo.

I have found that responding to this kind of post with the truth is far more effective than responding in kind with more lies and innuendo.

I guess the truth hurts.

[lonewolf]

What do all of you think of this:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... -super-pac

I think its just typical big-money politics by a typical big-money politician. He's no different from any other politician and his word and virtue only last as long as his perceived re-election hopes. Well, he is a little different...after all he is a Chicago-politician to boot.

We'll probably see more of this kind of PR from all the players since the election is still far off and they'll want to get their minor bad stuff out while there is still time to recover from it.

[Banned]

Not sure of the author:
"
"Let me get this straight . . . ...
We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,
Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,
written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a President who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,
for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,
by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,
all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!
'What the hell could
possibly go wrong?'"

[f.sciarrillo]

Reports: White House to Announce Birth Control Compromise

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama- ... /id/429038

[lonewolf]

Reports: White House to Announce Birth Control Compromise

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama- ... /id/429038

A compromise on authoritarian rule is still authoritarian rule.

[f.sciarrillo]

Reports: White House to Announce Birth Control Compromise

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama- ... /id/429038

A compromise on authoritarian rule is still authoritarian rule.

Yeah, I was thinking that he is trying to score votes. Obama pissed off a lot of people.

[lonewolf]

The meddlesome federal reserve is screwing up the bond markets. Nothing like quasi-government causing more bubbles...this time a bond bubble. This is a nightmare for those living on marginal fixed incomes. Low income now and big losses later when it bursts.

For the short term, this is actually good as far the debt is concerned, but only if Congress manages to pass a balanced or near-balanced budget within a few years.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/feds-oper ... 6.html?l=1

[Blue Reality]

Hey Lonewolf,

What's your prediction i.e. time to melt down? Sooner than later?

[lonewolf]

Hey Lonewolf,

What's your prediction i.e. time to melt down? Sooner than later?

I never use time as an analysis factor, only conditions and events. I can't tell you how long, but I can tell you what to look for.

Odds are that nothing major will happen before November because of elections in both the US and especially Europe. For political reasons, I expect to see them making ineffective short-term fixes to get incumbents through the election cycle without any major upheaval. Sometimes that doesn't work, like in 2008. That's why conditions can help more than events.

The fed is due to pull their support from the bond market in June, but as I inferred on the previous post, it probably won't make a difference by then, but it could uncoil later. This is an example of another artificial financial bubble forming because of Bernanke's unprecedented announcements of a "promise" to keep overnight rates at zero until 2014. That is a very dangerous and irresponsible game that he is playing with the economy.

I would keep a closer eye on 10-30 year T-bond interest rates beginning in July. Any significant move up will signal problems. Also be on the lookout early for problems with major banks like BOA during the 2nd half as an exit indicator.

Aside from that, I expect the DJIA to continue with the trading range roughly between 10,000 and 13,000. If I hadn't already tax-sold most of my equities at the end of last year, I would be taking some profits off the table right now as we are near the high end of this range. Events in Europe next month could help to accelerate things a bit, but not cause a meltdown.

As long as interest rates remain artifically low, we are safe. For now.

The recipe for a meltdown is very simple: a normal 5-10% interest rate curve + a big deficit.

[Banned]

Ron Paul wants to make little girls cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... DAhX1kA15k#!

[Hawk]

I state up front that I am Catholic. If Catholics run a business they should play with the same rules as everyone else.

I'd love to see more Christian / Judeo morals in government. No "separation" of church and government. Just not have the government choose one religion over another, like the founding fathers wanted it to be.

If the Catholic Church runs a business and someone there is not a Catholic, they have a right to access contraceptives. The Church should not force it's religion on others, as the founding fathers wanted.

The Catholic Church should let the individual choose for herself if she wants to use contraception. If the individual is Catholic, they should be allowed to follow church teachings on their own, rather than simple be denied the choice by the church.

As far as Obama care. I want to get rid of people who have no insurance and have no way to pay for health care. They generally belong to two groups.

The ones who can afford insurance but choose to not buy it. (Yeah, they might pay out of their pocket, until some major medical catastrophe happens, the hospital can't deny them surgical (or other) care.) So the bills are passed on to the rest of us via HIGHER MEDICAL COSTS.

The second group are the ones who can't afford health care insurance (and yes, the majority of them are working Americans). And again their bills are passed along to us via HIGHER MEDICAL COSTS.

So how do we get rid of these two groups ? No one has a good solution, but Obama Care is at least an attempt to solve the problem.

To Frank who has unnamed "friends" from Canada. I recently talked to a guy who does business with Canadians on a regular basis. After the business call is finished with the business, he politely asks how they like their health care. Everyone he talks to loves it. He has NEVER had a Canadian tell him they don't like it. And They have a good laugh when he asks if they'd like to have our health care system.

[Hawk]

I was born in one country, raised in another.

My father was born in another country.

I was not his only child.

He fathered several children with numerous women.

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

My mother died at an early age from cancer.

Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

Later in life, questions arose over my real name..

My birth records were sketchy.

No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40s.

They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.

Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

This bolstered my ego.

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...

I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy.

I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free.

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

It was the free market, banks and corporations.

I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

I called mine "A People's Campaign". That sounded good to all people.

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope', together we could change our country and the world.

So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant and included "persecuted minorities".

My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

And then the world learned the truth. At a great price.

Who am I?











ADOLPH HITLER

If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared...very, very scared!

I can't believe your total lack of knowledge of Adolf Hitler as this right wing Email spread by your secret group of people who live by hate. That's right, you are a sad group of people who LOVE to hate and perpetuate your group the very SAME WAY as Adolf Hitler did, and all right wing nut jobs who garner followers by perpetuating HATE... You are so sad.

EDIT:

Hitler created a "hate" for Jews. Everything that was wrong in Germany was the fault of the Jews. Insert "poor" for Jews and you have the current hate equal to Hitler's. It's a class warfare hate for anyone who needs government help. And hate anyone who wants to help the less fortunate via government (charities are not enough, never were). As seen in your hate for Johnny and I. You sir ARE a Hitlerite. You love to hate don't you ?

And remember this, the economy is GREAT if you belong to the multi-millionaires club, they are making record profits right NOW. If they paid a decent wage we could greatly decrease the number of poor.

We don't hate the rich like you hate the poor, we just wish they would create the jobs the conservatives keep telling us they will. And pay their fair share of tax.

[Hawk]

Extreme liberal Robert Reich is very disappointed in NObama.

"ROBERT REICH: Obama Has Handed The Election Over To The Super Rich"


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-sad- ... pac-2012-2

Lots of wingnuts are angry that Obama is benefitting the rich. Just not you.

Indeed !