THE POLITICAL ARENA!!! Political Gladiators Inside!!

[Banned]

Bill, for the record, when a party is anti-capitalist and have Socialist in their name, they might be leaning socialist.

Joe, In this Great American Society, In this Great United States, do you know of ANYONE who would even consider tolerating / allowing race discrimination like the Germans did ? If you do, they are the ones you should fear. I do...[/quote]

Well, the Occupy movement is filled with socialists, and there is quite a bit of racism coming from them. Mostly in the form of hatred of Jews. There have been quite a few videos of anti-Semitic signs and rants. Funny, the Nazis did the same thing.

Just one example, but you can find many more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjm4LxFa1c

[Banned]

You forgot to add to that tremendous (in your eyes) career that you have reached your peak and have risen to part time retail work. All those songs you wrote are really paying off. Impressive.

If your facade of marriage to hide your real sexuality had produced children you could brag to them you work part time retail. Wow.

Good thing you didn't pass on those bottom of the barrel genes. Achieving part time retail work in your mid 40's is not a great example to set for children. Thankfully your boyfriend - hidden life partner was against the idea.

Now onto politics. Are you in solidarity with the Occupy Tuckahoe Park? Oh, you can't, you are now the man, a leading member of big capitalism.

Well now, that was impressive. As pathetic as you make my life seem, you can't come close to any of it.

I know, you are much more pathetic than a few sentences can portray.

How you do even pay the taxes on the boatloads you make for your unbelievable songwriting career?

You know there is a difference between quantity and quality.

[songsmith]

How you do even pay the taxes on the boatloads you make for your unbelievable songwriting career?

You know there is a difference between quantity and quality.

"Had To Play The Blues" is on The Hurricanes first studio album, and Felix tells me it's the best song on it.
"Hard Time" was the most requested song in WLAK-FM history, according to Rocco Palotto, program director, and stayed in breakout rotation for nearly a year, surpassing even national pop and rock releases. I used to let the audience sing it, because they knew it so well. It got airplay around the world, thanks to tape traders, and I still get requests for it.
"My Eyes" received similar airplay in the early 90's, and has been the bridal-dance song at a few weddings, which I'm very proud of. I no longer sing it, but other people do.
"Stoney Lonesome" was written and recorded at Parlor Studios in Nashville, and the original dobro part was played by Rod Stewart/Shania Twain steel guitarist Robin Ruddy. It's been on hold with Grammy-winner Larry McCordle and Lonesome Standard Time, and alt-country band, Pinmonkey. It's currently being performed live by Asheville NC band The Dixie Bee-liners, and is on the Mama Corn CD.
"How Far Is It?" was used in the 1997 World Line-Dancing Finals.
"Crazy 'Bout Daisy" was used in a Nashville artist development deal by James Carmack.
"On That Night (There Was Just One)" is a Christmas song that gets played every year on local radio since it was written nearly 15 years ago.
My first radio airplay ever was in 1985, on WFBG-AM, as part of a band contest. The song was,"Speedrocker."
I've played original music in every project I've ever been a part of (even as a sideman) except for sit-in gigs, and I never pitch songs. I play them, and if the band likes them, that's cool... if they don't, that's cool, too. I've written/played metal, radio-rock, country, blues, gospel, and bluegrass (so far). The "Songsmith" nickname wasn't something I made up... fellow songwriters called me that on my first trip to Nashville, where I wrote with Tanya Tucker, who was still on the charts at the time. I help judge the Pennsylvania Heritage Songwriting Contest. I can be difficult to co-write with, because I do not allow cheap rhymes (love/stars above, etc.), and insist on creative effort over speed or ease.

NOW... post YOUR songs, or at least list some accomplishment that entitles you to judge the quality of my artistic output. If you can't, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY BEATEN, and you need to tuck your vestigial tail between your legs, and go find another sandbox to poop in. None of the things I've mentioned are self-aggrandizing or fluffy, I simply stated the facts about the quality of my art, and how it has been received; and now it's your turn to tell us about YOUR songs.

[Banned]

So with all of this success, how did you not pay federal income taxes and receive earned income tax credits, surely you must be incredibly wealthy?

I know you really get off on this chance to brag and talk about you, its your favorite hobby. It started because geek boy compared you to two local guitar players. That was an insult to those guitar players. It still is.

[songsmith]

NOW... post YOUR songs, or at least list some accomplishment that entitles you to judge the quality of my artistic output. If you can't, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY BEATEN, and you need to tuck your vestigial tail between your legs, and go find another sandbox to poop in.

[Banned]

NOW... post YOUR songs, or at least list some accomplishment that entitles you to judge the quality of my artistic output. If you can't, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY BEATEN, and you need to tuck your vestigial tail between your legs, and go find another sandbox to poop in.

Poor little stumpy. Wants to make this a fight with me, when it really is about the 2 local guitar players that Paul compared to him. I point out there is no comparison really. He is at least smart enough to know not to compare his guitar playing abilities to those he was compared to.

I go to see those guitar players because of talent and virtuosity. They are also very cool cats. Lack of the above is why I don't go to see you, not politics.

You massive ego was hurt, poor stumpy, we all know how much you love yourself. Now, if you have brains and any balls, go compare your chops with those two. That was the original comparison, I was not.

[songsmith]

No, actually, you attacked my abilities. I never mentioned those other two guitar players. In an exchange with bassist25, you said:

Are you seriously trying to compare johnny (self admitted weakest member of any band he's ever been in) and those you mentioned musically???????

I had nothing to do with any of that, then you attacked my songwriting, I countered with a few of my qualifications, but you had to say:

You forgot to add to that tremendous (in your eyes) career that you have reached your peak and have risen to part time retail work. All those songs you wrote are really paying off. Impressive.

At no point did I ever attack the objects of your fanboyism, the two aforementioned guitarists, nor did I mention them, or even refer to them. I spoke to one of them just yesterday, and we never mentioned you, and sat in with the other awhile back, and we hung out afterwards. Musicians have a commonality you will never understand.

Now, again:

NOW... post YOUR songs, or at least list some accomplishment that entitles you to judge the quality of my artistic output. If you can't, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY BEATEN

[songsmith]

You might also explain to all of us who have jobs why a musician with a day-job is a failure. And why your situation allows you to be the arbiter of "success." And why attempting to poison the local music-scene well is pertinent to your political stances.

[shredder138]

I haven't a clue why my uncle Scott or such a cool guy like Jason Feathers could be friends with you, Joe. You are a true piece of shit in it's purest sense.

[songsmith]

Iraq War vet shot in the face with a tear-gas canister by police. I think we were discussing injustices to military personnel earlier. He was not demonstrating violently, he was standing still, and had been saluting the flag. When people tried to help him, they were gassed as well.
The Bill of Rights guarantees the right to peaceably assemble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEj_4fqD ... ture=share

[f.sciarrillo]

Iraq War vet shot in the face with a tear-gas canister by police. I think we were discussing injustices to military personnel earlier. He was not demonstrating violently, he was standing still, and had been saluting the flag. When people tried to help him, they were gassed as well.
The Bill of Rights guarantees the right to peaceably assemble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEj_4fqD ... ture=share

What was the flag that was waiving in front of him saying? I couldn't make it out very well. Also, what was the sign? I saw something about a chairman of the communist party? Exactly why was he standing there? There are two sides to the story, Johnny. What is the other side of the story?

[songsmith]

What could an Iraq vet say to you that would make you shoot him in the face? they're cops, and nothing on a sign is illegal, no matter how bad.

[f.sciarrillo]

What could an Iraq vet say to you that would make you shoot him in the face? they're cops, and nothing on a sign is illegal, no matter how bad.

So you don't know the other side then? There are two sides to ever story. Until I see the other side, I will not take any.

[lonewolf]

There were two barricades in that scene. Most of the people were behind one and all the police behind the other. There weren't many people in the "no man's land" in between except a few protesters, including the Vet and photographers.

The question is:

Were protesters ordered to go behind the barricade?

That doesn't justify shooting somebody with a tear gas canister, but that also begs the question: Was that shot intentional?

BTW, the Constitution does guarantee freedom of assembly, but it doesn't prevent municipalities from requiring permits, setting rules of conduct and deciding when those rules of conduct are broken--however, fair warning must be given.

We need Paul Harvey....
{he's "the rest of the story" guy}

[RobTheDrummer]

Were you there?

That's my question, people can speculate or say all kinds of things about what happened, but if you weren't there, then you just can't say. I know this because I work in the "law enforcement" field, and see this stuff happen everyday. People will turn things into something else, and I see it with my own eyes and know they are completely off. Anyway, my point is, unless you were there, shut yer yap.

[Banned]

No, actually, you attacked my abilities. I never mentioned those other two guitar players. In an exchange with bassist25, you said:

Are you seriously trying to compare johnny (self admitted weakest member of any band he's ever been in) and those you mentioned musically???????

I had nothing to do with any of that, then you attacked my songwriting, I countered with a few of my qualifications, but you had to say:

You forgot to add to that tremendous (in your eyes) career that you have reached your peak and have risen to part time retail work. All those songs you wrote are really paying off. Impressive.

At no point did I ever attack the objects of your fanboyism, the two aforementioned guitarists, nor did I mention them, or even refer to them. I spoke to one of them just yesterday, and we never mentioned you, and sat in with the other awhile back, and we hung out afterwards. Musicians have a commonality you will never understand.

Now, again:

NOW... post YOUR songs, or at least list some accomplishment that entitles you to judge the quality of my artistic output. If you can't, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY BEATEN

Paul compared you to them musically. I laughed at that. I have two ears that work, which qualifies one to judge music by all the rules I have ever read, and they tell me you are not the caliber musician they are.

Paul claims I listen to their music because of politics. I say it is because of quality and virtuosity. That is why I do not listen to your music, unless I can't avoid it.

You then started your long posts bragging about your storied, incredibly successful career. If you put it out there, be prepared to get it shot at and questioned. Just because you play and write songs does not mean that they are good. I have every right to say that, you have every right to get pissed. So, don't get your panties too bunched up your vag asshole.

So I guess when I jam with them and sat in with one's former band at several local gigs, I would know nothing about playing music with them?

OK, if you say so.

[Banned]

Iraq War vet shot in the face with a tear-gas canister by police. I think we were discussing injustices to military personnel earlier. He was not demonstrating violently, he was standing still, and had been saluting the flag. When people tried to help him, they were gassed as well.
The Bill of Rights guarantees the right to peaceably assemble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEj_4fqD ... ture=share

Are you questioning the actions of an authoritarian government? I thought you love it when your beloved fascist government stomps on liberty, as when they raided the Gibson Guitar factory. You took the side of the government then.

[f.sciarrillo]

That is my point. The cops aren't going to intentional shoot someone without just cause. As Rob stated, we weren't there, so we have no idea what happen. And, Jeff, the barricade point sounds logical. But I would still like to know the other side, though.

[Banned]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

"House panel may subpoena White House documents"


Bill, you investigated this thoroughly, right? You should tell them.

[onegunguitar]

Megadeth
"We The People"

Secret bureaucracy, it’s just a lie
The devil’s henchmen, in suit and tie
A sacred brotherhood; an ancient rite
Politicians and the double lives they hide

Violate your rights, no more equality
Surrender freedom, your Social Security
We, the people face unconstitutional lies
In greed we trust, in revolution we die

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves
The land of liberty needs a regime change
Until you no longer know right from wrong
The constitution isn’t worth the paper it’s written on

Screams from the future, warn of calamity
The coming plagues of the new disease
The illuminati, one world currency
One world religion, one World everything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsttnzUHYTU

[f.sciarrillo]

Megadeth
"We The People"

Secret bureaucracy, it’s just a lie
The devil’s henchmen, in suit and tie
A sacred brotherhood; an ancient rite
Politicians and the double lives they hide

Violate your rights, no more equality
Surrender freedom, your Social Security
We, the people face unconstitutional lies
In greed we trust, in revolution we die

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves
The land of liberty needs a regime change
Until you no longer know right from wrong
The constitution isn’t worth the paper it’s written on

Screams from the future, warn of calamity
The coming plagues of the new disease
The illuminati, one world currency
One world religion, one World everything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsttnzUHYTU

Great song.

[Banned]

Megadeth
"We The People"

Secret bureaucracy, it’s just a lie
The devil’s henchmen, in suit and tie
A sacred brotherhood; an ancient rite
Politicians and the double lives they hide

Violate your rights, no more equality
Surrender freedom, your Social Security
We, the people face unconstitutional lies
In greed we trust, in revolution we die

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves
The land of liberty needs a regime change
Until you no longer know right from wrong
The constitution isn’t worth the paper it’s written on

Screams from the future, warn of calamity
The coming plagues of the new disease
The illuminati, one world currency
One world religion, one World everything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsttnzUHYTU

Great lyrics.

[onegunguitar]

I was listening to "We The People" yesterday and I thought the same thing-great song with great lyrics.

[songsmith]

Paul claims I listen to their music because of politics. I say it is because of quality and virtuosity. That is why I do not listen to your music, unless I can't avoid it.

You then started your long posts bragging about your storied, incredibly successful career. If you put it out there, be prepared to get it shot at and questioned. Just because you play and write songs does not mean that they are good. I have every right to say that, you have every right to get pissed. So, don't get your panties too bunched up your vag asshole.

So I guess when I jam with them and sat in with one's former band at several local gigs, I would know nothing about playing music with them?

OK, if you say so.

I see how this works. You tell me how bad I suck at what I do... if I show what I've accomplished, I'm a raging egomaniac... if I don't, it proves you're right.
You say you have every right to judge me and my music, and I ask what gives you that right? Experience? Knowledge? Talent? You don't have to LIKE me or my output, I truly don't care, but upon what foundation is your ability to judge me based?

Come to any show I play at, or I'll come to one of yours. Perhaps I could put together an event at a venue, promote it, then we throw down and see who can do what. Solo performances, all original. Live band, cover tunes. Blues, rock, metal, whatever you want. Winner donates the cover charge to charity. Loser leaves Rockpage forever.
Until then, we need to hear your songwriting skills.
POST YOUR SONGS.

[Banned]

Paul claims I listen to their music because of politics. I say it is because of quality and virtuosity. That is why I do not listen to your music, unless I can't avoid it.

You then started your long posts bragging about your storied, incredibly successful career. If you put it out there, be prepared to get it shot at and questioned. Just because you play and write songs does not mean that they are good. I have every right to say that, you have every right to get pissed. So, don't get your panties too bunched up your vag asshole.

So I guess when I jam with them and sat in with one's former band at several local gigs, I would know nothing about playing music with them?

OK, if you say so.

I see how this works. You tell me how bad I suck at what I do... if I show what I've accomplished, I'm a raging egomaniac... if I don't, it proves you're right.
You say you have every right to judge me and my music, and I ask what gives you that right? Experience? Knowledge? Talent? You don't have to LIKE me or my output, I truly don't care, but upon what foundation is your ability to judge me based?

Come to any show I play at, or I'll come to one of yours. Perhaps I could put together an event at a venue, promote it, then we throw down and see who can do what. Solo performances, all original. Live band, cover tunes. Blues, rock, metal, whatever you want. Winner donates the cover charge to charity. Loser leaves Rockpage forever.
Until then, we need to hear your songwriting skills.
POST YOUR SONGS.

My ears tell me that those two guitarists are several levels above you and that has your panties bunching up you vag. I happen to like listening to them. They are way better than you. What gives me the right to say that? This keyboard the the Constitution. Wow, it finally gets back to politics on a political thread.

Can't you accept that there are musicians around who can smoke you? You want to make to make it about me, but you got all pissed when I gave the real reason I listen to those previously mentioned musicians. This is all about you. You couldn't hold either of their pics in my opinion, and you can't take it. And I am not alone in that opinion.

If you had any real balls, take on those guitarists. I notice you avoiding that. Smart.

Is this behavior related to your Napoleon Complex, which is plainly evident to all? Or are you just a big spoiled baby? Or just the asshole that everyone already thinks you are.