THE POLITICAL ARENA!!! Political Gladiators Inside!!

[Hawk]

I see that we have another "expert" in psychobabble.

Schadenfreude. Exactly what Joe enjoyed doing to Johnny. It's not that hard to understand why people enjoy Schadenfreude. One doesn't need to be an expert to understand why they do it.

He did it to me, making an entire post to point out I misspelled a word.

So I did a little Schadenfreude myself. "Donator". Not a nasty "punch" like Joe though, spreading gossip...just a little jab.

Well, I kinda figured we'd end up with some kinda Freud here sooner or later, lol.

[Banned]

You forgot to add to that tremendous (in your eyes) career that you have reached your peak and have risen to part time retail work. All those songs you wrote are really paying off. Impressive.

If your facade of marriage to hide your real sexuality had produced children you could brag to them you work part time retail. Wow.

Good thing you didn't pass on those bottom of the barrel genes. Achieving part time retail work in your mid 40's is not a great example to set for children. Thankfully your boyfriend - hidden life partner was against the idea.

Now onto politics. Are you in solidarity with the Occupy Tuckahoe Park? Oh, you can't, you are now the man, a leading member of big capitalism.

[Banned]

Big Sis Janet Napolitano Knew About Fast And Furious in 2009.

Only problem with that statement is that she testified to Congress she only found out about it recently. Another member of Obama's inner circle lying?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/napolitano- ... -2009.html

"Napolitano’s claim that she knew nothing of Fast and Furious until it hit the news headlines is almost certainly a brazen lie, since she was responsible for launching the previous incarnation of the same program less than two years earlier. If the DHS chief is found to have lied under oath, she is guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice, and faces a jail sentence of a minimum of five years."

Unless Bill, our super investigative tuner, has already checked this out.

[bassist_25]

Lets meet in any public place and talk. Name it. I'll be at 30 Something on Nov. 12 for a show.

C'mon Joey, you're asking a gigging musician to show up at a show on a major gig night. Of course I won't be there - I'm playing a gig.

Both Nazism and communism have socialism in common. I will fight socialism and socialists anywhere anytime.

Yeah, that's why Hitler privatized many public services.

Notice I never follow you around, yet you claim to be partially libertarian. Sorta blows your theory geek.

Not really, my theory is that you follow people around who have very similar views to you. We're not similar.

How could that be, you have a masters degree?

So do you...from Shippensburg I believe. I know this goes back to what I said to Lector earlier in this thread, but you do realize that's a state university. It probably wasn't a part of PASSHE yet when you graduated, but it was a state university. Do you look at your diploma and whip yourself like John the Savage does at the end of Brave New World for getting upward mobility due to socialism? Don't fool anyone here into thinking you're some self-made man. And don't feed me some tripe of how you "already paid taxes, so you were just taking care of services." If the educational-related taxes you had already paid weren't the equivalent of out-of-state tuition by the time you went, you were getting a socialized education. I can see it now, young Joey as a grad student: "Wow, this Milton Friedman dude is so boss! But I can't start doing this libertarian thing until I finish Chapter 5 of my thesis next month."

[Banned]

Are you claiming that Hitler and the Nazi party did not start out as socialists? You might know that the word Nazi is an acronym of National Socialist, the party that helped put Hitler in power.

It was also called the National Socialist Workers Party. I think that qualifies as socialistic. I hope I am using big enough words for you to understand.

[Banned]

Not really, my theory is that you follow people around who have very similar views to you. We're not similar.

So quit the facade that you are libertarian. This is a political thread and you only seem to applaud posts by shorty and baldy, socialists at heart. I never see you post a positive libertarian message. You mostly make personal attacks and kiss ass to shorty when he waxes poetic on socialism.

[bassist_25]

And, BTW, since I'm so sweet on the big words, I have a neologism for y'all: joe, as in joe as a verb.

joe - verb

1. To respond to a cogent argument in a manner that paints the respondent as juvenile or such that such an insult should normally be beyond his or her station in life.

2. An attempt to insult somebody that backfires and makes the person delivering the insult appear foolish or petty.

joe-ed - adverb

1. To experience a joe.

Examples:

Yo dawg, I thought I was gonna get served by Pete when I brought up the Copehagen interpretation, and he would counter with Schrödinger's cat; but he just joe-ed me by saying I was an idiot and a nazi.

[bassist_25]

You mostly make personal attacks

No shizzle, Sherlock. Trying to engage you in meaningful debate is like slamming my dick in a door on a constant basis, so I thought I would just have some fun. C'mon Joey, I remember you once whined to me about how someone on here once said something to you that you thought was harsh. Can't stand your own medicine, huh.

[Hawk]

Are you claiming that Hitler and the Nazi party did not start out as socialists? You might know that the word Nazi is an acronym of National Socialist, the party that helped put Hitler in power.

It was also called the National Socialist Workers Party. I think that qualifies as socialistic. I hope I am using big enough words for you to understand.

I was talking to a friend today. I respect him a great deal. He suggested my mud slinging back and forth with Joe is too childish. In retrospect, he's right. I don't intend to stop posting (although probably a lot less), and I'll keep my friends in mind when I do. Thank you who ever you are sir...

But I have to say, I know some things about Hitler, I've been fascinated with a man who could suck so many people into evilness since grade school. I understand Joe thinks that socialism leads to Nazism, but that's not how it happened in Germany at all.

Joe, if you study Hitler he hated Marxism / socialism, where everyone works for the government. Hitler used the word "socialism" as in social, all for one, all for the fatherland, kind of an idea. He was not a socialist in any way relative to communist socialism. In fact he hated that form of government / economic system. Nazi's weren't socialists in the sense that you think they were. Honestly, look it up.

[Banned]

Are you claiming that Hitler and the Nazi party did not start out as socialists? You might know that the word Nazi is an acronym of National Socialist, the party that helped put Hitler in power.

It was also called the National Socialist Workers Party. I think that qualifies as socialistic. I hope I am using big enough words for you to understand.

I was talking to a friend today. I respect him a great deal. He suggested my mud slinging back and forth with Joe is too childish. In retrospect, he's right. I don't intend to stop posting (although probably a lot less), and I'll keep my friends in mind when I do. Thank you who ever you are sir...

But I have to say, I know some things about Hitler, I've been fascinated with a man who could suck so many people into evilness since grade school. I understand Joe thinks that socialism leads to Nazism, but that's not how it happened in Germany at all.

Joe, if you study Hitler he hated Marxism / socialism, where everyone works for the government. Hitler used the word "socialism" as in social, all for one, all for the fatherland, kind of an idea. He was not a socialist in any way relative to communist socialism. In fact he hated that form of government / economic system. Nazi's weren't socialists in the sense that you think they were. Honestly, look it up.

I know you don't want to believe it but NAZI is an acronym for National Socialist, Hitler's party. It was called the National Socialist Workers Party until they shortened it. That does not sound anything but socialist no matter how much you wish it or spin it.

I know you like the socialist part of this government and you cannot bear to think it has some relationship to Nazism. Sorry, but Fascist Nazi Germany started out a a socialist workers party. That is why I will fight any socialism that has already taken a strong hold in this country. It will lead to more and more fascism.

[Banned]

And, BTW, since I'm so sweet on the big words, I have a neologism for y'all: joe, as in joe as a verb.

joe - verb

1. To respond to a cogent argument in a manner that paints the respondent as juvenile or such that such an insult should normally be beyond his or her station in life.

2. An attempt to insult somebody that backfires and makes the person delivering the insult appear foolish or petty.

joe-ed - adverb

1. To experience a joe.

Examples:

Yo dawg, I thought I was gonna get served by Pete when I brought up the Copehagen interpretation, and he would counter with Schrödinger's cat; but he just joe-ed me by saying I was an idiot and a nazi.

Go kiss spongey's ass some more, seems the only contribution to life you have to offer. Or are you worthy, you did not write 500 songs, or have you? Does he deem you worthy enough to kiss his ass, since you have not reached the pinnacle of part time retail work in a music store?

[bassist_25]

Oh no. I've just been joe-ed!

[hicksjd9]

i talk of freedom
you talk of the flag
i talk of revolution
you’d much rather brag
and as the decibels of this disenchanting
discourse continue to dampen the day

the coin flips again and again, and again,
and again as our sanity walks away

all this discussion
though politically correct
is dead beyond destruction
though it leaves me quite erect

-Live
White Discussion
Throwing Copper

[Banned]

Oh no. I've just been joe-ed!

And you will when he have that discussion face to face.

[shredder138]

Oh no. I've just been joe-ed!

FUCKING FANTASTIC!! Smart and funny.

[shredder138]

eeh

[Hawk]

Are you claiming that Hitler and the Nazi party did not start out as socialists? You might know that the word Nazi is an acronym of National Socialist, the party that helped put Hitler in power.

It was also called the National Socialist Workers Party. I think that qualifies as socialistic. I hope I am using big enough words for you to understand.

I was talking to a friend today. I respect him a great deal. He suggested my mud slinging back and forth with Joe is too childish. In retrospect, he's right. I don't intend to stop posting (although probably a lot less), and I'll keep my friends in mind when I do. Thank you who ever you are sir...

But I have to say, I know some things about Hitler, I've been fascinated with a man who could suck so many people into evilness since grade school. I understand Joe thinks that socialism leads to Nazism, but that's not how it happened in Germany at all.

Joe, if you study Hitler he hated Marxism / socialism, where everyone works for the government. Hitler used the word "socialism" as in social, all for one, all for the fatherland, kind of an idea. He was not a socialist in any way relative to communist socialism. In fact he hated that form of government / economic system. Nazi's weren't socialists in the sense that you think they were. Honestly, look it up.

I know you don't want to believe it but NAZI is an acronym for National Socialist, Hitler's party. It was called the National Socialist Workers Party until they shortened it. That does not sound anything but socialist no matter how much you wish it or spin it.

I know you like the socialist part of this government and you cannot bear to think it has some relationship to Nazism. Sorry, but Fascist Nazi Germany started out a a socialist workers party. That is why I will fight any socialism that has already taken a strong hold in this country. It will lead to more and more fascism.

Just a bizarre sense of history and reality. If I give up it's because you lost your sense of what is real. Never mind the facts (he doesn't even want to know the truth ) is a way of life when reality is in "bizarro" world.

John, Paul, Good luck...

[f.sciarrillo]

I'm not in the mood to read all the posts here, can someone catch me up? Or is it still Joe and Bill going back an forth,

[shredder138]

Joe, you're such fucktard, NAZI is an abbreviation not an acronym. Your veil of idiocy is awefully thick!!!

[bassist_25]

How do you measure up on the local music scene, joey? How's YOUR band doing? You can't really question my musical achievements, because you have none. You're shooting blanks once again. How's the guitar-playing coming? I do that. Do you play harmonica? I do that. Do you play bass? I do that. Do you play keys? I've written several songs on keys. Mandolin, dobro, lap steel? Done, done,done. Do you book your non-existent band? I do that. Do you sing lead and multiple harmony positions? I do those. How about setting up the PA? I design those. Can you mix a band? I did that professionally for 5 years, with national acts, no bar bands. Do you promote and market your band? I do. How about your peers, do they ask you to sit in? Mine do. Ever get any airplay? I've had lots, starting in 1985. Do you write songs? I've been doing it since age 8 (39 years), have over 500, and I'm in the most creative period of my life RIGHT NOW.
Can you answer yes to even one of those questions? No you can't, you're just a frustrated Superfan. Perhaps you can use this post for one of your usual twisty deals where you attempt to paint me as a raging egomaniac, but nobody will pay attention, and I'll go on being a musician, and you won't.
Maybe next time you think you're going to compare peckers with me, you'll figure out that you pee sitting down, and give it a second thought. This is a MUSICIAN'S forum, for MUSICIANS. Thanks for coming to see US play, WE appreciate your attendance. Politically, though, you can go f**k yourself, let someone else get a word in edge-wise. This isn't your site, it's a MUSICIAN'S website.

Of course Joseph wouldn't play in a band. Playing in a band would be collectivist, and as a true libertarian, as he likes to remind us, Joe wouldn't take part in a collectivist activity.

[Banned]

I was talking to a friend today. I respect him a great deal. He suggested my mud slinging back and forth with Joe is too childish. In retrospect, he's right. I don't intend to stop posting (although probably a lot less), and I'll keep my friends in mind when I do. Thank you who ever you are sir...

But I have to say, I know some things about Hitler, I've been fascinated with a man who could suck so many people into evilness since grade school. I understand Joe thinks that socialism leads to Nazism, but that's not how it happened in Germany at all.

Joe, if you study Hitler he hated Marxism / socialism, where everyone works for the government. Hitler used the word "socialism" as in social, all for one, all for the fatherland, kind of an idea. He was not a socialist in any way relative to communist socialism. In fact he hated that form of government / economic system. Nazi's weren't socialists in the sense that you think they were. Honestly, look it up.

I know you don't want to believe it but NAZI is an acronym for National Socialist, Hitler's party. It was called the National Socialist Workers Party until they shortened it. That does not sound anything but socialist no matter how much you wish it or spin it.

I know you like the socialist part of this government and you cannot bear to think it has some relationship to Nazism. Sorry, but Fascist Nazi Germany started out a a socialist workers party. That is why I will fight any socialism that has already taken a strong hold in this country. It will lead to more and more fascism.

Just a bizarre sense of history and reality. If I give up it's because you lost your sense of what is real. Never mind the facts (he doesn't even want to know the truth ) is a way of life when reality is in "bizarro" world.

John, Paul, Good luck...

"Initially Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_socialist_party

So thinking that some political party was anti-big business and anti-capitalist means that it was socialist is in Bill's world bizarro?! Especially when this party had the word Socialist in its name.

Bill, for the record, when a party is anti-capitalist and have Socialist in their name, they might be leaning socialist.

[shredder138]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! to this thread.

[lonewolf]

to the Political Thread!

[songsmith]

You forgot to add to that tremendous (in your eyes) career that you have reached your peak and have risen to part time retail work. All those songs you wrote are really paying off. Impressive.

If your facade of marriage to hide your real sexuality had produced children you could brag to them you work part time retail. Wow.

Good thing you didn't pass on those bottom of the barrel genes. Achieving part time retail work in your mid 40's is not a great example to set for children. Thankfully your boyfriend - hidden life partner was against the idea.

Now onto politics. Are you in solidarity with the Occupy Tuckahoe Park? Oh, you can't, you are now the man, a leading member of big capitalism.

Well now, that was impressive. As pathetic as you make my life seem, you can't come close to any of it. I loved the part about part-time retail. I work for old friends, I've worked for them off and on for over 20 years, besides everything else I do. I feel like it's better than unemployment compensation. I'm sorry if it doesn't meet your high standards. I think I see your real problem: envy.

Where's your wife Joe? "I beat her and she left."
Where's your job, Joe? "I effed off in local stores instead of seeing clients, and they 'downsized' me."
Where's your kid, Joe? "He won't be seen in public with me anymore."
Where's your job, Joe? "I'd rather be on unemployment than work."
Where's you band, Joe? "I have no talent or drive."
Where's your songs, Joe? "I said I have no talent or drive."
Where's your friends, Joe? "I bullied them until they left."
Where's your sanity, Joe? "I can't remember."
Where's your reputation, Joe? "I squandered it on the internet."
What did you squander it on, Joe? "You're a socialist. Vote Ron Paul."

Now, what are Johnny the Loser's plans for the weekend? Friday afternoon, putz around on the pickup truck I just saved up and paid cash for, and restring one of the dobro's I play for money. Friday evening, coffeehouse gig in my hometown (lots of old friends will be there). Saturday morning/afternoon, work at the store. Saturday evenng, another hayride show for the Penn State greeks, where I'll make as much money as I did working all week at the store. Sunday am, my wife will make me breakfast, and we'll do housework together, then go to her parent's house, where I'm painting the interior, because they're family. Sunday evening my wife and I will hang out on the couch and watch TV until it's time for her to go to work. If I feel like it, I might go sit in with the Hurricanes (I have a standing invitation). Yup, I'm a big fat zero, joey, and you're the all-time champ. You really showed me, didn't you?

And yes, joe, I'm gay. Gay for YOU. I can't quit you, brokebackjoe, you're my drug.

[Hawk]

I know you don't want to believe it but NAZI is an acronym for National Socialist, Hitler's party. It was called the National Socialist Workers Party until they shortened it. That does not sound anything but socialist no matter how much you wish it or spin it.

I know you like the socialist part of this government and you cannot bear to think it has some relationship to Nazism. Sorry, but Fascist Nazi Germany started out a a socialist workers party. That is why I will fight any socialism that has already taken a strong hold in this country. It will lead to more and more fascism.

Just a bizarre sense of history and reality. If I give up it's because you lost your sense of what is real. Never mind the facts (he doesn't even want to know the truth ) is a way of life when reality is in "bizarro" world.

John, Paul, Good luck...

"Initially Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_socialist_party

So thinking that some political party was anti-big business and anti-capitalist means that it was socialist is in Bill's world bizarro?! Especially when this party had the word Socialist in its name.

Bill, for the record, when a party is anti-capitalist and have Socialist in their name, they might be leaning socialist.

Joe, In this Great American Society, In this Great United States, do you know of ANYONE who would even consider tolerating / allowing race discrimination like the Germans did ? If you do, they are the ones you should fear. I do...