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undercoverjoe wrote: Good boy. Your are finally growing up. You should be so proud. You deserve a cookie. Now go ahead with your usual sociopathic hatred of the rich and conservative radio show hosts.
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You never answered re: your "prospects," Joe. This was YOUR personal attack, so YOU answer your own question, or DROP THE WHOLE tirade.
Society should help people who are down, people like you. YOU take from the machine, then rage against it. Doesn't seem right, does it?

I've tried everything I know of, it's like arguing with a child.
You're incapable of an adult conversation, and you've never proven otherwise. Go away. There are message boards where people like you get validation from other people like you. If you can't find one, I'll find one for you. Go there.
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songsmith wrote:Go away.
Liberal response, for free speech except when someone disagrees with them. They cannot argue their political position so they resort to criticizing the messenger and want you to go away.

You never have explained why You thought it was so great for armed federal agents to raid an American company with American workers making Gibson guitars. Is there a reason or do you just love that your government acts without Constitutional authority? Fascism must be cool when your guy is the head fascist I guess.
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We should get Jerry Springer to come to Pelle's or 30 Something for a "jam" and do a show with the Rockpage political characters having a "debate".

I guess it should be Pelle's. That stage wouldn't look much different afterwards.
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You have your free speech, you're allowed to say whatever you want... anywhere you want.... except when you talk about me.
You are most certainly NOT a Libertarian, no matter how much you claim to be. Libertarians claim that they should be allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they're not infringing on anyone else. Personal attacks on me DO NOT fit that description. You're a Joe-bertarian. A mix of talkshow pseudo-conservatism, narcissism, and textbook paranoia. Any true Libertarian would dis-associate himself with your brand of insanity because you drag the whole movement down to psychotic rants and spitting at the wind.
You need to deal with the FACT that nobody supports your attacks on everyone and everything. You don't gain respect by railing against a tax credit everyone with a family gets, especially while you don't pay in yourself. You don't curry favor by calling people silly names like Nazi or Kenyan Fuhrer. You don't achieve gravitas by posting links to extremist blogs. Doubling down on radical misinformation only makes you seem twice as radical and misinformed.
You make Metalrules and nosurrender look like amateurs. If not for your "Superfan" status, you'd have gotten bounced years ago.
Now GO AWAY.
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songsmith wrote: GO AWAY.
The full extent of liberal debating technique. Agree with me or go away. :roll:

Edit: Of course followed by a long rant.
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songsmith wrote:You make Metalrules and nosurrender look like amateurs. If not for your "Superfan" status, you'd have gotten bounced years ago.
Now GO AWAY.
Me, doubling down.
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undercoverjoe wrote: For Bill to say such a thing, without any personal knowledge shows what a low piece of shit he has become defending his fascist government. It has become his new religion. I know he has posted about his family fighting for this country, and he has the right to say such lies, but his ancestors would be so ashamed of his actions. Heil Hawk.
The extent of your debating skills.
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songsmith wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote: For Bill to say such a thing, without any personal knowledge shows what a low piece of shit he has become defending his fascist government. It has become his new religion. I know he has posted about his family fighting for this country, and he has the right to say such lies, but his ancestors would be so ashamed of his actions. Heil Hawk.
The extent of your debating skills.
When lies are made about me, this is a tame response.
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undercoverjoe wrote: [We all know you are an asshole, try not to display your stupidity so proudly.

How about this one then? Impressive.
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undercoverjoe wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:NOTHING you have ever posted has EVER PROVED A THING.

:roll:
Unless you count the many times it proved your stupidity.
Here you are, apparently arguing with yourself.
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undercoverjoe wrote:I've chosen a side, I hate assholes like you. Always have, always will.

Even you are smart enough to understand the difference between an unemployment check, funded by my payments into unemployment insurance each and every paycheck for 40 years, vs. receiving the Earned Income Refund check, when you don't even pay income tax. You are on straight gummint welfare. You are a pure bum, a pure cancer on everyone else that works and pays income taxes.
An attack, then a rationalization of why Joe deserves a check, but nobody else does.
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Here's an oldie-but-goodie from 2 whole weeks ago:
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ToonaRockGuy wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:Argument over! Bill declares that there IS ONLY ONE TRUTH!

We can all turn our computers off and go on with our lives. I am sure the government will take that truth and do what is best for all.
And this is why I don't get into these discussions. Thanks, Joe, for completely disregarding my request for no personal attacks on anyone in this thread. :roll: I can't even ask a simple question without you going after someone. Christ.

I would honestly like to thank everyone who did take the time to give good honest answers.

I'm going to listen to music now. Fuck politics.
When the resident authoritarian statist speaks, what more is there to be said on the subject? Not an attack, just pointing out TRUTH!
Joe is The Law 'round these parts. We all love that Joe's The Law.

GO AWAY.
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songsmith wrote:You have your free speech, you're allowed to say whatever you want... anywhere you want.... except when you talk about me.
You are most certainly NOT a Libertarian, no matter how much you claim to be. Libertarians claim that they should be allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they're not infringing on anyone else. Personal attacks on me DO NOT fit that description. You're a Joe-bertarian. A mix of talkshow pseudo-conservatism, narcissism, and textbook paranoia. Any true Libertarian would dis-associate himself with your brand of insanity because you drag the whole movement down to psychotic rants and spitting at the wind.
You need to deal with the FACT that nobody supports your attacks on everyone and everything. You don't gain respect by railing against a tax credit everyone with a family gets, especially while you don't pay in yourself. You don't curry favor by calling people silly names like Nazi or Kenyan Fuhrer. You don't achieve gravitas by posting links to extremist blogs. Doubling down on radical misinformation only makes you seem twice as radical and misinformed.
You make Metalrules and nosurrender look like amateurs. If not for your "Superfan" status, you'd have gotten bounced years ago.
Now GO AWAY.
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Shredder...are you just gonna instigate????

OR

are you gonna say something worthwhile??? like calling someone a Fascist cheeksplitter or something???


Call names or GTFO
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EDIT: im not attacking anyone. Just poking fun at the situation. CONTINUE THE SLAUGHTER!!!!!
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I went back and read this thread. It reminds me of a story. That being there were two cages. These two cages had a monkey in each. All the monkeys would do all day is throw poo at each other. Now here is the question: Can you tell me who the monkeys are? :lol:

And yes, Keith. All Shredder is doing is instigating. I am sure others see that also. lol
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Robert Johnson, the CEO of BET tells Obama to stop attacking the rich.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... althy.html

"I didn't go in to business to create a public policy success for either party, Republican or Democrat. I went in business to create jobs and opportunity, create opportunity, create value for myself and my investors. And that's what the president should be praising, not demagoguing us simply because Warren Buffet says he pays more than his secretary. He should pay the secretary more and she will pay more."
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Obama Says Americans Not Better Off Than 2008; Plays 'Underdog' Card

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics ... erdog-card

You can go back to arguing and throwing poo now.
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f.sciarrillo wrote:Obama Says Americans Not Better Off Than 2008; Plays 'Underdog' Card

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics ... erdog-card

You can go back to arguing and throwing poo now.
One of the very few times he was not lying.
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Eric Holder lied when testifying under oath to Congress. That is perjury and an impeachable offense.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-2 ... 91695.html

New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.


WHEN DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW?
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undercoverjoe wrote:Does not matter what you say to Bill. His is a good little Nazi, he will lie and twist and alter everything...
Prove it.

I do tend to untwist that which you twist. That's easy to prove. Show me where I lied. Show me where I twisted the truth.

Jeff only managed to point out how thankful I am when I'm corrected.

Now it's your turn.
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Hawk wrote:
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undercoverjoe wrote:Does not matter what you say to Bill. His is a good little Nazi, he will lie and twist and alter everything to protect his fascist government.

He is proud of George Soros who sold out his own Jewish brothers to the Nazis in WWII to be murdered. One Nazi, Bill, proud of Soros, a Jew who helped other Jews get murdered by Nazis.

Hitler could have never come to power without a lot of little people just like Bill. Nazi enablers. All for the good of the state.
More absurdity when you just LOST the argument . :lol: :lol:

Now tell me specifically please, about the 13 year old Soros ? How he was told by the Nazi's to deliver names to a Rabi and these people were to gather for some unknown (to Soros) reason ? That's about the time his father changed his name to Soros and moved him in with a Christian family to save his life isn't it ?

I have no idea how I would have reacted to the SS if I was 13 year old Jew. I suppose Joe (if he were Jewish) would have just asked for a ride to Auschwitz.
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In other words, Joe is selfish, self centered and I care about everyone. And ALL of our posts in this thread parallel that theme.
Bill has no idea of my personal charitable donations. I believe charity is a personal thing, not to be forced upon you by an authoritarian government. For Bill to say such a thing, without any personal knowledge shows what a low piece of shit he has become defending his fascist government. It has become his new religion. I know he has posted about his family fighting for this country, and he has the right to say such lies, but his ancestors would be so ashamed of his actions. Heil Hawk.
Joe, you stand for selfishness. Contributions by wonderful people like you do not come close to necessary societal obligations.

There in lies the problem. You judge others by your 'self'. "I give to charity." Joe, does that mean everyone does ? "I am successful." Joe, does that mean everyone can be successful ? Is everyone as good as you ? Are there people who are not as smart as you ? Are there people who have handicaps mentally or physically ? Should they do as well as you ? In the dog eat dog Libertarian world, what to we do with these people ? Do you nievely believe charity will take care of them ? It never did in the history of the world.

For instance the benevolent would want people who can't walk to get governmental help with a Hoveround. I guess they should lay in bed until they die ?

Nazi: Supreme supporters of race discrimination.
Joe: Supported of race discrimination in the private sector - and he wants just about everything privatised.

Nazi: Ban Unions
Joe: would like to ban unions.

Joe's not authoritarian - unless it's related to illegal drugs, it can only be Joe's way. and unions, it can only be Joe's way. and private enterprise, it can only be Joe's way. Health care, it can only be Joe's way. WAIT a minute, I see a pattern here and I'm not done yet. AN AUTHORTARIAN: Someone who doesn't like it Joe's way. :roll:

Joe, This is funny right, because we know Joe won't give a straight answer to a very simple question. He avoids them like they were, well, selfishness vs. selflessness.

Is health care access a right or a privilege ?

Perhaps if we cut taxes, baned unions and took away the minimum wage, people would just take their extra money and use it to pay for the poor's health care...


Joe has danced around this question before but essentially he implies if you can't pay, just DIE... :evil:
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Still waiting... Are you afraid to answer or are you ashamed of your stance ?
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Hawk wrote:
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Hawk wrote: Prove it.

I do tend to untwist that which you twist. That's easy to prove. Show me where I lied. Show me where I twisted the truth.

Jeff only managed to point out how thankful I am when I'm corrected.

Now it's your turn.
Up yours Nazi, I'm still waiting for you to prove I was lying. You do not believe my links, I do not believe anything in your links.
What part of, "there is no record of such a vote" don't you uinderstand. Unless you show a source that shows that there is a record, you are a liar.
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