THE POLITICAL ARENA!!! Political Gladiators Inside!!

[Banned]

What regulations on media? Can they be regulated to tell the truth, the unbiased truth?

Nice to know your democrat party is funded by a Jew who turned in his own people to the Nazis in WWII. Must warm your heart.

He trades on currencies, he does not hire people to work in factories. Like most democrats he brings no value to anyone, just skims money off the top as he topples currencies and makes middle class people poorer.

Typical democrat statist.

Gosh, Joe, were you wrong that being rich entitles you to all the power you can buy, or were you wrong that being conservative entitles you to all the power you can buy? I'm pretty consistent on my point that money shouldn't give you more power than the average guy. You, on the other hand, have different "rules" based on whether or not a person is Fox-approved.
Nice to know your Republican Party is funded by a foreign national who wiretaps murder victims' families. Or to know that your Tea Party is funded by brothers whose father started the John Birch Society.

Oh, and trading on currencies has a name: capitalism.

( I realize this post is disjointed. I based it Joe's post. His jump around because, well, you know why.)

My republican party?? Yo, try to remember, I know its hard for your brain, but I am a registered Libertarian. Call the Blair County Courthouse to verify.

(Selling out your fellow Jews to the Nazis to be gassed and incinerated, basically assisting in genocide, is quite a bit more evil than wiretapping. Or do you think they are comparable?) Thankfully no one attached to the Libertarian Party does any of the above.

Betting short on a currency is not capitalism.

To us non-communists, the John Birch Society is not so scary. I'll take them over Marx, Lenin and Obama.

[Hawk]

Number of poor increase. Where do they come from ? They come from the middle class. The rich are getting richer. Corporations are making record profits yet see to it that they don't pay a wage that would support health care.

The poor also live an average of 6 years less than the rich. Soon the rich will have their way. No social security, no medicare , no medicaid. The poor (former middle class) will just die off. They can be used as slave labor to compete with China.

The new American Society. Everyone for himself. Survival of the richest. Vote Republican / Libertarian. No health coverage, no problem, just die.

Entitlements ? Yes, the rich are entitled to health care, if you can't afford health care, you are not.

Entitlements ? Yes Only the rich are entitled to have power to run the government, our lives and anything else they want to.

Which rich, The power hungry rich. The ones who are hoarding Trillions of dollars that could turn around the country right now if they invested in America. Bringing Obama down is more important than helping Americans.



Joe, if Liberterians are not right wing, why is Ron Paul a Republican Presidential candidate ?

[Hawk]

What regulations on media? Can they be regulated to tell the truth, the unbiased truth?

Nice to know your democrat party is funded by a Jew who turned in his own people to the Nazis in WWII. Must warm your heart.

He trades on currencies, he does not hire people to work in factories. Like most democrats he brings no value to anyone, just skims money off the top as he topples currencies and makes middle class people poorer.

Typical democrat statist.

Gosh, Joe, were you wrong that being rich entitles you to all the power you can buy, or were you wrong that being conservative entitles you to all the power you can buy? I'm pretty consistent on my point that money shouldn't give you more power than the average guy. You, on the other hand, have different "rules" based on whether or not a person is Fox-approved.
Nice to know your Republican Party is funded by a foreign national who wiretaps murder victims' families. Or to know that your Tea Party is funded by brothers whose father started the John Birch Society.

Oh, and trading on currencies has a name: capitalism.

( I realize this post is disjointed. I based it Joe's post. His jump around because, well, you know why.)

My republican party?? Yo, try to remember, I know its hard for your brain, but I am a registered Libertarian. Call the Blair County Courthouse to verify.

(Selling out your fellow Jews to the Nazis to be gassed and incinerated, basically assisting in genocide, is quite a bit more evil than wiretapping. Or do you think they are comparable?) Thankfully no one attached to the Libertarian Party does any of the above.

Betting short on a currency is not capitalism.

To us non-communists, the John Birch Society is not so scary. I'll take them over Marx, Lenin and Obama.

Given that Ron Paul is a Republican Candidate, who is the Libertarian presidential candidate you'll be voting for Mr. Registered Libertarian ?

[Banned]

Ron has run for president on the Libertarian ticket in 1988. He rejoined the republicans to get better appointments and committees in Congress. That is just the way it goes with the two party system.

When he ran in 1988, he was not invited into any of the presidential debates. As a member of the reps, he gets invited to most of the debates, last time FOX NEWS kept him off of a debate, even when we was 3rd in the polls at the time. FOX wants no part of a 3rd party in America.

So as a member of the Reps, his message gets a national audience, many times now. Wouldn't happen if he stay registered Libertarian.

Just look at his voting record, he votes against the R as much as anybody. anytime you see a 435-1 vote, bet on Ron being the 1. He actually votes with Dennis Kucinich on foreign policy issues more than the R's.

Bill, I thought Obama and the dems are for the little guys. They had 2 years with a supermajority. Whahappened!!!!???? There is more poor now than ever!!!!

His policies suck. Liberalism does not work.

[Hawk]

Ron has run for president on the Libertarian ticket in 1988. He rejoined the republicans to get better appointments and committees in Congress. That is just the way it goes with the two party system.

When he ran in 1988, he was not invited into any of the presidential debates. As a member of the reps, he gets invited to most of the debates, last time FOX NEWS kept him off of a debate, even when we was 3rd in the polls at the time. FOX wants no part of a 3rd party in America.

So as a member of the Reps, his message gets a national audience, many times now. Wouldn't happen if he stay registered Libertarian.

Just look at his voting record, he votes against the R as much as anybody. anytime you see a 435-1 vote, bet on Ron being the 1. He actually votes with Dennis Kucinich on foreign policy issues more than the R's.

Bill, I thought Obama and the dems are for the little guys. They had 2 years with a supermajority. Whahappened!!!!???? There is more poor now than ever!!!!

His policies suck. Liberalism does not work.

You mean the policies that had the Republicans blocked with record filibusters ?

Joe, The Dems were digging us out of recession, you forget the recession form "cut taxes will create jobs" GW Bush. Cutting taxes doesn't work...

Joe tell me about your dream of private facilities that discriminate based on race. You must love that fantasy to hold onto it so dearly.

[Banned]

Its called Freedom. Try it sometime.

[whitedevilone]

Sorry Hawk,didn't mean to "whine" as you call it,I guess I didn't do my proper research. Obama is still an idiot

Real addition of pure substance...

Typical Conservative response to LOOSING...

Now I'll ...

You seem too pleased about a Pres who's numbers are in the shitter Bill.I work in people's homes everyday and honestly i haven't come across ANYBODY who feels your boy is living up to his godlike run to the office.With the exception of loose wheel libbies like you and farmer J most folks have had it.And seriously calling Bushy a whiner???Trust me bro when hear the word whiner tossed around YOU come to mind in an instant.

Now i'll

[onegunguitar]

Sorry Hawk,didn't mean to "whine" as you call it,I guess I didn't do my proper research. Obama is still an idiot

Real addition of pure substance...

Typical Conservative response to LOOSING...

Now I'll ...

"Pure substance" because of my response? Really? Seems to me you have some "substance" issues yourself Bill.

[Hawk]

Sorry Hawk,didn't mean to "whine" as you call it,I guess I didn't do my proper research. Obama is still an idiot

Real addition of pure substance...

Typical Conservative response to LOOSING...

Now I'll ...

You seem too pleased about a Pres who's numbers are in the shitter Bill.I work in people's homes everyday and honestly i haven't come across ANYBODY who feels your boy is living up to his godlike run to the office.With the exception of loose wheel libbies like you and farmer J most folks have had it.And seriously calling Bushy a whiner???Trust me bro when hear the word whiner tossed around YOU come to mind in an instant.

Now i'll

Oh I agree. He has not achieved a lot of what I expected from him. I have alreday pointed that out. You guys only see what you want to see.

What conclusion do you draw when the economy sucks, the poor are getting poorer, more people are getting poor, and corporations are making record profits ? The rich are getting richer. And they are hoarding Trillions of dollars rather than infuse it into the US economy. What conclusion to you draw from that ?

BTW onegunguitar wanted more oil drilling. It's up 60% . The highest since 1987. He didn't know because...well, I don't know, perhaps FOX doesn't tell people everything?

I point out facts. onegunguitar WAS whining he wanted more drilling. He didn't know he already had what he wanted. Rather than be happy about that, he chose name calling. Real clever...

[Hawk]

Betting short on a currency is not capitalism..

Gee Joe, it's called freedom. Perhaps there should be laws against it ?

Joe's world, there are no laws...unless Joe want's them.

[Banned]

What conclusion do you draw when the economy sucks, the poor are getting poorer, more people are getting poor, and corporations are making record profits ? The rich are getting richer. And they are hoarding Trillions of dollars rather than infuse it into the US economy. What conclusion to you draw from that ?

That government does not stimulate the economy with more deficit spending. It ruined the economy. Obama is a failure and has no idea of how to run this country.

[shredder138]

Trust me bro when hear the word whiner tossed around YOU come to mind in an instant.

Wow, something must be wrong with your perception if ucjoe and frank doesn't come to mind in an instant.

This is how I see it, in a nutshell..

Hawk = seemingly intelligent ,seemingly factual poster with substance. Able to see different points of view and can debate intellectually without slanderous remarks toward anyones character.

UCJoe + Frank = Tons of empty, useless posts and a whole lot of shit-throwing, crybaby antics. Unbudgable, closeminded, if your not 100% in agreeance with them, insults will be a plenty.


Isn't crystal clear who the whiners are?

[Banned]

Hawk = seemingly intelligent ,seemingly factual poster with substance.

Only because you agree with his liberal politics. We laugh at his "substance". Its a joke, like you, and I now feel sorry for you as much as Hawk. Tsk, tsk, what harm a government education can do.

[shredder138]

Hawk = seemingly intelligent ,seemingly factual poster with substance.

Only because you agree with his liberal politics. We laugh at his "substance". Its a joke, like you, and I now feel sorry for you as much as Hawk. Tsk, tsk, what harm a government education can do.

See what I mean. You haven't the slightest clue what I think and who I agree with. If it's not you then I'm a kool aid drinking facist.

Nobody likes a Know-it-all. Maybe you should crawl out of your asshole and see the world for what it is. It takes all kinds to make the world go round, not just your kind.

I feel sorry for you, the world's not a very nice place when everyone is the asshole except you. It's gotta be pretty frustrating.

[onegunguitar]

Real addition of pure substance...

Typical Conservative response to LOOSING...

Now I'll ...

You seem too pleased about a Pres who's numbers are in the shitter Bill.I work in people's homes everyday and honestly i haven't come across ANYBODY who feels your boy is living up to his godlike run to the office.With the exception of loose wheel libbies like you and farmer J most folks have had it.And seriously calling Bushy a whiner???Trust me bro when hear the word whiner tossed around YOU come to mind in an instant.

Now i'll

Oh I agree. He has not achieved a lot of what I expected from him. I have alreday pointed that out. You guys only see what you want to see.

What conclusion do you draw when the economy sucks, the poor are getting poorer, more people are getting poor, and corporations are making record profits ? The rich are getting richer. And they are hoarding Trillions of dollars rather than infuse it into the US economy. What conclusion to you draw from that ?

BTW onegunguitar wanted more oil drilling. It's up 60% . The highest since 1987. He didn't know because...well, I don't know, perhaps FOX doesn't tell people everything?

I point out facts. onegunguitar WAS whining he wanted more drilling. He didn't know he already had what he wanted. Rather than be happy about that, he chose name calling. Real clever...

Hahaha,I call Obama an idiot and you call me a "whiner" because I asked a question that I may not have known the answer to,sorry,I should have researched it a little more,my bad.I can see if I called you the idiot,but I guess you can be "real clever" and resort to name calling and it's all ok? What the fuck ever.

[kayla]

What the fuck ever.

[onegunguitar]

What the fuck ever.

[Banned]

Hawk = seemingly intelligent ,seemingly factual poster with substance.

Only because you agree with his liberal politics. We laugh at his "substance". Its a joke, like you, and I now feel sorry for you as much as Hawk. Tsk, tsk, what harm a government education can do.

See what I mean. You haven't the slightest clue what I think and who I agree with.

Do you have a brain that works? You post Hawks seems intelligent and factual. You said that. I do have the slightest clue--- you just posted it. I then comment on it. Non communists laugh at Hawk's intelligence and "facts". The whole world does not think like you, thank goodness.

[songsmith]

My republican party?? Yo, try to remember, I know its hard for your brain, but I am a registered Libertarian. Call the Blair County Courthouse to verify..

...And I have been register Independent pretty much from the get-go, but you ignore that regularly. Because you want to. And I'll point out that you've never endorsed anyone here who isn't Republican. Call it what you want, you're the big authority.

(Selling out your fellow Jews to the Nazis to be gassed and incinerated, basically assisting in genocide, is quite a bit more evil than wiretapping. Or do you think they are comparable?) Thankfully no one attached to the Libertarian Party does any of the above.

Well, like all wingers, if you're not back-tracking or doubling-down on some way-out point, you're parsing. "Selling out Jews isn't comparable to wiretapping dead kids..." You really aren't helping yourself or conservatism anymore. People hear things like that, and any credibility you ever had is gone, like with the Birther lunacy. "Scorched Earth" is, indeed, a battle tactic, albeit never a successful one, still you always lack the one thing you'd need to do it: Heat. Respect for your opinion lessens the farther-out you get. Oh, and Libertarians are associated with lots of bad people. There's a Gadsden flag hanging outside every militiamen meeting place, and those are the guys who blew up the Murrah Building, and occasionally get busted trying to start a race war.

Betting short on a currency is not capitalism.

Actually, it is. Plenty of conservatives do it, too. This just underscores that you don't really even know what "socialist" and "capitalist" mean, and neither do your buddies. Playing currency markets can obviously be quite profitable, and if it wasn't , there wouldn't be a bunch of rich Wall St. guys doing it. I think you just form your own opinion of what is and what isn't, then wave your magic wand and opinion becomes "fact," then expect everyone to agree. That must be really frustrating when reality sets in, I can see why you're on the edge.

To us non-communists, the John Birch Society is not so scary. I'll take them over Marx, Lenin and Obama.

You make me giggle. Yes, joey, we all just hang on every name you call someone, every definition you make, every judgement you pass. Maybe, if you get angry and abusive enough, people will finally see how perceptive you are. You just have to find that key that makes everybody see how right you are, and how wrong everyone else is.
Good luck with that.

[shredder138]

Only because you agree with his liberal politics. We laugh at his "substance". Its a joke, like you, and I now feel sorry for you as much as Hawk. Tsk, tsk, what harm a government education can do.

See what I mean. You haven't the slightest clue what I think and who I agree with.

Do you have a brain that works? You post Hawks seems intelligent and factual. You said that. I do have the slightest clue--- you just posted it. I then comment on it. Non communists laugh at Hawk's intelligence and "facts". The whole world does not think like you, thank goodness.

Yes, Joe, my brain works quite well, obviously better than yours. I'm a good judge of character and can see who can actually think through the facts of situations and have the ability to come to fairly intelligent conclusions, and those who refuse to even to crawl out of their shells and break free from the "I know you are but what am I" mentality.

I've read all your posts and I wouldn't trust your judgement on running a goddamn yardsale, let alone the country!

I'm rubber you're glue, bitch.

[whitedevilone]

Also Bill,i've worked for the same millionaire for 17+ years and the last 3 have been his worst EVER!!We went from 15 crews down to me and one other fellow.So shelve the poor are getting poorer while the rich are getting richer bullshit cause it doesn't hold water,i know first hand.Your boy is practicing "trickle up poverty"to quote a man far wiser than you.Wealth is the cure for the human condition.Wealth betters peoples lives and gives people jobs.Government does NOTHING but create red tape and hand out cheese.Yea government.Such a tool.

[Banned]

Johnny thinks that if he has a lot more words in his posts that would make him right. Who would waste their time reading anything you post?

[lonewolf]

Betting short on a currency is not capitalism.

That's about as close to pure capitalism as you can get.

Using capital to make more capital from trading on the value of capital.

[songsmith]

.Wealth is the cure for the human condition.Wealth betters peoples lives and gives people jobs..

Executive salaries are up. Taxes are way down. Big business is sitting on a trillion $ at least.
Where are the jobs?
Your millionaire boss might be hurting financially, but the CEO of the company he buys his materials from probably had his best year ever.

[songsmith]

Johnny thinks that if he has a lot more words in his posts that would make him right. Who would waste their time reading anything you post?

Oh yeah, the thing where you critique my writing ability.

(ahem) "You're all a bunch of statist Kenyan Fuhrers, you authoritarian Marxists! You fascist liberal communist Nazi socialists and your kool-aid-drinking comrades need to listen to Ron Paul! Here's a link proving it:
www.somedouchebagsrightwingmanifesto.com

Better?