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Some facts on the debt, from CBS, not a conservative source.

The Federal Government’s flood of red ink hit another high-water mark as the Treasury Department quietly reported today that the National Debt hit $11-trillion for the first time ever.

To be exact, the Debt now stands at $11,033,157,578,669.78. Divide it by the U.S. population and it comes up to over $36,000 in debt for every man, woman and child among us.

And the government is running up mountains of debt with increasing speed. It took just over 5 ½ months for Uncle Sam to go another trillion dollars deeper in debt since hitting $10-trillion last September 30th. It’s the fastest jump in U.S. history.

The hundreds of billions of dollars being spent as part of the federal bailout of the financial markets is a leading factor in the rapid increase. Over $400-billion in debt has been accrued in the 57 days since President Obama took office.

And the federal budget he unveiled last month projects even faster increases in the National Debt. It’ll hit $12.7-trillion by the end of the fiscal year on September 30th. The Administration’s four year estimate shows that by the end of September 2012, the Debt will have soared to $16.2-trillion – which amounts to nearly 100% of the projected Gross Domestic Product that year.

The U.S. is running up so much debt so quickly, some investors are worried. Over the weekend, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, who says his country has about a trillion dollars invested in U.S. Treasury notes, said he wanted a guarantee.

President Obama said Wen’s got nothing to worry about.

“Not just the Chinese government, but every investor, can have absolute confidence in the soundness of investments in the United States,” he said on Saturday.

That’s because the U.S. government’s power to tax stands behind all of its debt. If Uncle Sam ever needs a bailout, then as now, taxpayers get nailed.

It took the U.S. government 191 years – from 1791 until 1982 – to run up its first trillion dollars in debt. The second and third trillions got on the scoreboard much more quickly – each in just four years.

By the time George W. Bush was inaugurated in 2001, the National Debt stood at $5.7-trillion. He ran up more debt faster than nearly all of his predecessors combined: just under $4.9-trillion.

The National Debt stood at $10.6-trillon on the day Barack Obama took office. But if his budget projections are accurate, he’ll run up nearly as much government debt in four years as President Bush did in eight.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/17 ... 2310.shtml
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f.sciarrillo wrote:
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f.sciarrillo wrote: Where on there does it say that obama didn't raise it? You are looking at a one way river again. The stats clearly show the the debts goes up every year and so far Obama has it the highest it has ever been ...
I never said it didn't go up under Obama. I'm pointing out that
YOU had no clue we had a deficit or 10 Trillion before Obama. Because Beck didn't tell you.
You have no clue that it goes every year and your point is pointless ...
You have been claiming for months that it went from 0 to 11 trillion under Obama . Now I prove you to be wrong AGAIN. That's my only point. Even when the facts are there you remain ignorant. And the point goes over your head. I guess there is no educating you. I am forced to give up again. Either you are incredibly stupid OR you are baiting me. I very sincerely would like to believe you are baiting me.
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undercoverjoe wrote:Some facts on the debt, from CBS, not a conservative source.

The Federal Government’s flood of red ink hit another high-water mark as the Treasury Department quietly reported today that the National Debt hit $11-trillion for the first time ever.

To be exact, the Debt now stands at $11,033,157,578,669.78. Divide it by the U.S. population and it comes up to over $36,000 in debt for every man, woman and child among us.

And the government is running up mountains of debt with increasing speed. It took just over 5 ½ months for Uncle Sam to go another trillion dollars deeper in debt since hitting $10-trillion last September 30th. It’s the fastest jump in U.S. history.

The hundreds of billions of dollars being spent as part of the federal bailout of the financial markets is a leading factor in the rapid increase. Over $400-billion in debt has been accrued in the 57 days since President Obama took office.

And the federal budget he unveiled last month projects even faster increases in the National Debt. It’ll hit $12.7-trillion by the end of the fiscal year on September 30th. The Administration’s four year estimate shows that by the end of September 2012, the Debt will have soared to $16.2-trillion – which amounts to nearly 100% of the projected Gross Domestic Product that year.

The U.S. is running up so much debt so quickly, some investors are worried. Over the weekend, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, who says his country has about a trillion dollars invested in U.S. Treasury notes, said he wanted a guarantee.

President Obama said Wen’s got nothing to worry about.

“Not just the Chinese government, but every investor, can have absolute confidence in the soundness of investments in the United States,” he said on Saturday.

That’s because the U.S. government’s power to tax stands behind all of its debt. If Uncle Sam ever needs a bailout, then as now, taxpayers get nailed.

It took the U.S. government 191 years – from 1791 until 1982 – to run up its first trillion dollars in debt. The second and third trillions got on the scoreboard much more quickly – each in just four years.

By the time George W. Bush was inaugurated in 2001, the National Debt stood at $5.7-trillion. He ran up more debt faster than nearly all of his predecessors combined: just under $4.9-trillion.

The National Debt stood at $10.6-trillon on the day Barack Obama took office. But if his budget projections are accurate, he’ll run up nearly as much government debt in four years as President Bush did in eight.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/17 ... 2310.shtml
Joe, we all know the debt is increasing. It picked up speed under W. My question for you (both singular "you" and plural "you") is why didn't you write these kind of posts when Reagan, Bush and especially when W took it to 10 trillion ?

I'll tell you why. Because it wasn't in the media, especially not in the right wing media. The righ wing media kept their listeners ignorant to the fact as f proves every day.
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This thread should be called "More Bullshit from Rob" :wink:
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THEM BONES wrote:This thread should be called "More Bullshit from Rob" :wink:
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THEM BONES wrote:This thread should be called "More Bullshit from Rob" :wink:
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I am going to add to it here. The amendment to remove government funded abortions from the health bill was shot down. It makes me feel so good knowing that I am going to be paying the bill for the trailer trash sluts who can't keep their legs shut :roll:
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f.sciarrillo wrote:I am going to add to it here. The amendment to remove government funded abortions from the health bill was shot down. It makes me feel so good knowing that I am going to be paying the bill for the trailer trash sluts who can't keep their legs shut :roll:
Abortions happen in all walks of life from rich to poor.

Frank, Should every woman who has an abortion (murder) be put to death ?

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Did you guys know that Santa is comming? Or did Obama get to him too? :roll:
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Hawk wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:I am going to add to it here. The amendment to remove government funded abortions from the health bill was shot down. It makes me feel so good knowing that I am going to be paying the bill for the trailer trash sluts who can't keep their legs shut :roll:
Abortions happen in all walks of life from rich to poor.

f, Should every woman who has an abortion (murder) be put to death ?
Bill, please, it is Frank :)

As for abortion. The only time it should be accepted is in the case of Rape or Incest - In the case of said; it should be a proven act first. Just having it to have it should be considered murder and it is something that my tax money should not be paying for period ..
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Mapex Drummer wrote:Did you guys know that Santa is comming? Or did Obama get to him too? :roll:
I heard that Santa is gonna be here soon, but I heard it on MSNBC so I doubt it's true :lol:
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f.sciarrillo wrote:
Hawk wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:I am going to add to it here. The amendment to remove government funded abortions from the health bill was shot down. It makes me feel so good knowing that I am going to be paying the bill for the trailer trash sluts who can't keep their legs shut :roll:
Abortions happen in all walks of life from rich to poor.

Frank, Should every woman who has an abortion (murder) be put to death ?
Bill, please, it is Frank :)

As for abortion. The only time it should be accepted is in the case of Rape or Incest - In the case of said; it should be a proven act first. Just having it to have it should be considered murder and it is something that my tax money should not be paying for period ..
You avoided answering the question.
What should the punishment be for a woman who murders her unborn child ? Death, life imprisonmant ? You tell me.
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Hawk wrote:
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Hawk wrote: Abortions happen in all walks of life from rich to poor.

Frank, Should every woman who has an abortion (murder) be put to death ?
Bill, please, it is Frank :)

As for abortion. The only time it should be accepted is in the case of Rape or Incest - In the case of said; it should be a proven act first. Just having it to have it should be considered murder and it is something that my tax money should not be paying for period ..
You avoided answering the question.
What should the punishment be for a woman who murders her unborn child ? Death, life imprisonmant ? You tell me.
If you look at my post I said it should be considered murder. So the punishment for the crime should be what the jury says. I agree with what they give her; whether it be death or life in prison ..
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I suppose I should pay for other people's health care, that must be the American Dream that our forefathers talked about.
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f.sciarrillo wrote:
Hawk wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: Bill, please, it is Frank :)

As for abortion. The only time it should be accepted is in the case of Rape or Incest - In the case of said; it should be a proven act first. Just having it to have it should be considered murder and it is something that my tax money should not be paying for period ..
You avoided answering the question.
What should the punishment be for a woman who murders her unborn child ? Death, life imprisonmant ? You tell me.
If you look at my post I said it should be considered murder. So the punishment for the crime should be what the jury says. I agree with what they give her; whether it be death or life in prison ..
So you want to send them to the state prisons, that are paid for by your state taxes. So how are you winning by this?
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I just think people should be held accountable for their actions. Where is the responsibility? If you want an abortion, pay for it. Why should it be my responsibility to pay for your mistakes? Why should I already have to pay for some slut to have 5 kids and be on welfare? All this big government bullshit does is take responsibility away from careless people.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:I just think people should be held accountable for their actions. Where is the responsibility? If you want an abortion, pay for it. Why should it be my responsibility to pay for your mistakes? Why should I already have to pay for some slut to have 5 kids and be on welfare? All this big government bullshit does is take responsibility away from careless people.
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Flaw wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:
Hawk wrote: You avoided answering the question.
What should the punishment be for a woman who murders her unborn child ? Death, life imprisonmant ? You tell me.
If you look at my post I said it should be considered murder. So the punishment for the crime should be what the jury says. I agree with what they give her; whether it be death or life in prison ..
So you want to send them to the state prisons, that are paid for by your state taxes. So how are you winning by this?
If you saw the law change to charging the people who have them without a good cause with murder, you would see the rate go down ..
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RobTheDrummer wrote:I suppose I should pay for other people's health care, that must be the American Dream that our forefathers talked about.
Did you have health care when you were playing full-time in Reno? What would you have done if you came down with a serious illness?
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f.sciarrillo wrote: If you saw the law change to charging the people who have them without a good cause with murder, you would see the rate go down ..
And you have empirical evidence for that?

P.s. For the record, I'm pro-life.
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Not to be Hawk and post three times in a row in political thread, but I'm going to miss these circular political peeing matches when I bounce.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:I suppose I should pay for other people's health care,
You do. You pay insurance companies, and hospitals, to cover the cost of people who use the ER for doctor visits. You have for years. Both the insurance companies and hospitals tack on the cost and add a little (or a lot) extra for their trouble. That's the American Dream.--->JMS
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songsmith wrote:
RobTheDrummer wrote:I suppose I should pay for other people's health care,
You do. You pay insurance companies, and hospitals, to cover the cost of people who use the ER for doctor visits. You have for years. Both the insurance companies and hospitals tack on the cost and add a little (or a lot) extra for their trouble.


You also pay for all the people on Medicaid and Medicare.
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bassist_25 wrote:Not to be Hawk and post three times in a row in political thread, but I'm going to miss these circular political peeing matches when I bounce.
Don't they have internet where you are going?

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