Whats the hype with Dime bag from pantera

AugaDiFlow · Post by **AugaDiFlow** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

god bless his soul i have much respect for him and like some of the music but the only thing that i see as impressive in his playing is his style im not bashing him im asking why do people say he's the best i can think of 100 guitarists that youve never heard of that are in bands like Moe. Umphrey's Mcgee, String Cheese incident, and pleanty more underground acts that are well established but refuse to made mainstream.....even players around PA why noone ever mentions Slash from GNR BBking?? SRV, Dreamtheaters Plaers are all amazing i just want clearity why this guy is mentioned as the best when he was just very average??? he did create a unique sound i totally give him props for that.... please dont kill me here but im not bashing him at all he get mad repect from me but i know most people who post on here are into metal or 80's hair ect...so take it easy:)

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

Apples and oranges, my friend. I've only heard String Cheese and Moe out of your examples, and they are far, far different. I could say there are bluegrass flat-pickers who could outplay the whole bunch of them, but you'd call me nuts, and dismiss me as a clueless old man. Plus I'd be at least sort of wrong. Best is a matter of opinion, completely. My mom thinks I'm the best guitarist, who's gonna tell her otherwise?
There are guys here who love Dimebag... I liked the band as a whole even more. Hate the scooped sound, but I have to admit, you heard a Dimebag riff, and you knew it was him (until everybody sounded like him!). The music was brutal, after years of hairband stuff, which I also liked.
I'd say Dime was the best Dime-clone of them all, how about that?---->JMS

byndrsn · Post by **byndrsn** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

I don't want to be flamed here either - oh what the hell, I can take it!!

Anyway, could it have something to do with dying? I've noticed that a lot of musicians get put on a godlike pedestal once they pass away – especially if they go out much younger than the average for life expectancy. Look at Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Stevie Ray, the Skynryd boys, Lennon, etc.

Punkinhead · Post by **Punkinhead** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

The deal with Dimebag is this:

In a time when the metal world sucked guitarwise for popular "metal" ( see Korn ) he kept it real by still playing and spoke out on shit like one fingered guitar playing (as did Zakk Wylde and Slayer). Also, he wrote good songs....very good songs. Those who followed his playing know he's not the best guitarist ever technique wise but, is one of the greatest metal guitarists ever overrall.

KMFDM ROB · Post by **KMFDM ROB** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

I think it has to do with, his songs were good. Some I don't like, but for the most part he wrote good tune. He soloed well, and he carried himself well. He didn't have a rap for being a piece of shit, he was a decent guy.

He may not have been the most technical guitar player, but that's not what it takes. Sometimes, just a groove, and a tasty lick, sometimes none of that even.

Baceman Spiff · Post by **Baceman Spiff** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

I think there is something to be said about the hype of Dime being related to his death. I can remeber alot of people jumping on the SRV bandwagon after he died. Thats just the way of things. Who cares if he was the best? I loved his music from very first time I heard it. (CFH '89-'90) He inspired me and generation of other kids to pick up an instrument. In the end, thats all that really counts.

drums=life · Post by **drums=life** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

couldnt agree with ya more SPIFF. I wonder what nick and zakk would say about this thread

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

I don't believe there is any "HYPE" about it.
He was a very popular guitarist and a pioneer who paved the way for
metal as we know it this millenium. Plus he was quite talented,so HYPE
no, much deserved RESPECT for a talented musician yes.
You wanna talk about hype try looking at how Kurt Cobain gets put on a pedestal. I even saw a guitar magazine call kurt one of the all time greatest players. I guess it's all in what you like.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

I like Dime and think that he was a very talented player during a time when many players in the mainstream weren't so talented. I always wish that his solos were higher in the mix though. I don't know why they mixed him like that. It was like that on the Damage Plan stuff too.

Personally, I've never seen why people go nuts over Les Claypool's bass playing. I always thought that he had sloppy technique and was a mediocre slapper. He's good, but I never understood why people try to put him in the same class as Wooten, Clarke, Willis, Nitti, Lee (Geddy or Will), Manring, etc. Those cats would smoke him in terms of both sheer technique and musicality. I guess that I'm just pissed that there's a ton of kids out there who think that My Name is Mud is the pentacle of bass playing but still have never heard School Days or Portrait of Tracy. *LOL*

byndrsn · Post by **byndrsn** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

DirtySanchez wrote: You wanna talk about hype try looking at how Kurt Cobain gets put on a pedestal. I even saw a guitar magazine call kurt one of the all time greatest players. I guess it's all in what you like.

That was exactly my point. I mentioned several artists who were immortalized in death, although of those that I listed above, there are a couple of them that I really didn't think were all that hot. (Cobain would have been one of those).

I think there are fans who were always fans and would continue to be fans if these people were still alive and then there are those that jump on the band-wagon after the person dies.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Wednesday Feb 15, 2006

True. By all accounts, Hendrix's star was actually fading when he died, because he wanted to create new music, but people only wanted to buy the old. Stevie Ray hadn't been selling well, either. (Don't flame me, I fricking LOVE SRV.)--------->JMS

Charltor · Post by **Charltor** » Saturday Feb 18, 2006

Dime deserves all the respect due for a talented musician...may he rest in peace. The dude could shred, but his sound was built around the fat on those heavy crunchy riffs he devestated us true heads that can groove on. Check out this Power Metal era 7:30 solo where he rips shit up at...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &q=dimebag

rocker x · Post by **rocker x** » Sunday Feb 19, 2006

"Hype" Is not a word that I would ever associate with Dime. The man

is certainly worthy of my respect! The greatest thing about him is that no

matter how big Pantera was, or how many times he made it on the cover

of guitar magazines. He always remained a very humble and respectful

player. Every interveiw I have ever seen with him and brother Vinnie was

a testament to what it is all about! Not just technique or shred, but being

the real down to earth, funny as hell, and beautiful mother fucker he was!

Dues Paid In Full !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

onegunguitar · Post by **onegunguitar** » Sunday Feb 19, 2006

RIP DIME!

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Monday Feb 20, 2006

rocker x wrote: The greatest thing about him is that no

matter how big Pantera was, or how many times he made it on the cover

of guitar magazines. He always remained a very humble and respectful

player. Every interveiw I have ever seen with him and brother Vinnie was

a testament to what it is all about! Not just technique or shred, but being

the real down to earth, funny as hell, and beautiful mother fucker he was!

Dues Paid In Full !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know how true this story is, but I heard that Dime was once in a music store where a kid was putting a guitar on layaway. Dime went and paid the deposit on it so the kid could take it home that day.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Monday Feb 20, 2006

Aside from the great playing, Dime was such a charismatic and likeable guy. Anytime a magazine had an interview or column with Dime, it was a must-read because he was so funny and down to Earth.

onegunguitar · Post by **onegunguitar** » Monday Feb 20, 2006

bassist_25 wrote:
I don't know how true this story is, but I heard that Dime was once in a music where a kid was putting a guitar on layaway. Dime went and paid the deposit on it so the kid could take it home that day.

I've read articles where Dime helped kids out like that also,The Guitar World issue from March 2005 has some in it. Dimebag,to me,was more than just a exceptional guitar player,he was a good hearted human being.I honestly believe if you would've ran into him in the street or whatever,he'd give you the time of day,shoot the shit and drink a beer with ya. Like so many of his fans,I never got a chance to meet him,but anyone that followed what he did and what he was about lost a friend that day in December,2004-I know I did.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Monday Feb 20, 2006

Dimebag had a rep of playing things you couldn't transcribe. I can remember reading articles by Wolf Marshal (He was a transriptionist for Guitar World, for those who don’t know who he is) stating that he hated to try and transcribe Dime Bags stuff because half of it you couldn't do. Dimebag was that good ..