Al Sharpton 3,000 - Glenn Beck 500,000 ...

[f.sciarrillo]

The number of people who turned out for the gala at DC yesterday: 3,000 showed up at Al Sharptons rally, and 500,000 showed up at Glenn Becks rally. That is staggering. Did anyone from here go? I would like to have but couldn't.

source one: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/20 ... 000-in-dc/

Source two: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/20 ... at-nation/

And here is something interesting as well ...

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/20 ... -54-to-33/

[whitedevilone]

My father inlaw went and said it was really cool.Ofcourse,according to the MSNBC crowd it was just a huge Klan meetin.

[Hawk]

Sharpton can be an idiot sometimes and he doesn't have his own TV network to advertise for months ahead of time.

Martin Luther King promoted peace and attempted (his whole life) to take out the wedges that divide. Glen Beck promotes fear and creates wedges and reasons for his followers to hate _______. Fill in the blank with hate of the day.

Luther: Unite
Beck: Divide

[f.sciarrillo]

Sharpton can be an idiot sometimes and he doesn't have his own TV network to advertise for months ahead of time.

Martin Luther King promoted peace and attempted (his whole life) to take out the wedges that divide. Glen Beck promotes fear and creates wedges and reasons for his followers to hate _______. Fill in the blank with hate of the day.

Luther: Unite
Beck: Divide

Did you listen to the speech, or just take what MSNBC said and leave it at that? He had no political agenda in it at all. He didn't even say anything political - In fact it was a Religous message. MLK's family even backed him up in it. So the divide he is causing must be the way that the left sees it, mostly because they call anyone who doesn't agree with them and listen to their point, and follow them, a group of people causing divide.

MSNBC will say anything that is not on their agenda to indoctrinate people in to thinking that obama is the true messiah. They are not a real news station, never have been and never will be.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/2 ... 98048.html

Did you see the last link I put? What does that tell you? The left is sinking like the titanic, and even the life rafts have holes.

[Banned]

Sharpton can be an idiot sometimes and he doesn't have his own TV network to advertise for months ahead of time.

Martin Luther King promoted peace and attempted (his whole life) to take out the wedges that divide. Glen Beck promotes fear and creates wedges and reasons for his followers to hate _______. Fill in the blank with hate of the day.

Luther: Unite
Beck: Divide

Bill, your post seemed to promote fear and hate. Pot, hello kettle.

[tornandfrayed]

Anyone ever read the bible? Anyone here really proclaim themselves to be a Christian? Cool...

Division is what Beck is about, can't argue that. I liked his speech I wish that he would stay on that track... But...

Back to the bible and revelations... It is suppose to suck!

We are not at the return of the Garden of Eden quite yet. We are suppose to be pitted against one another and the Devil comes wearing a really nice suit! (Obama, Beck, whatever!)

So help those you can, make your own decisions and live for life and the people whom you love. It will be cool.

[Hawk]

Sharpton can be an idiot sometimes and he doesn't have his own TV network to advertise for months ahead of time.

Martin Luther King promoted peace and attempted (his whole life) to take out the wedges that divide. Glen Beck promotes fear and creates wedges and reasons for his followers to hate _______. Fill in the blank with hate of the day.

Luther: Unite
Beck: Divide

Did you listen to the speech, or just take what MSNBC said and leave it at that? He had no political agenda in it at all. He didn't even say anything political - In fact it was a Religous message. MLK's family even backed him up in it. So the divide he is causing must be the way that the left sees it, mostly because they call anyone who doesn't agree with them and listen to their point, and follow them, a group of people causing divide.

MSNBC will say anything that is not on their agenda to indoctrinate people in to thinking that obama is the true messiah. They are not a real news station, never have been and never will be.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/2 ... 98048.html

Did you see the last link I put? What does that tell you? The left is sinking like the titanic, and even the life rafts have holes.

I'm curious why you thought Sharpton and Beck was a compitition.

No I did not read / hear his speech. I'm sure though, that you heard / read Sharptons.

I haven't watched ANY political show for weeks nor have I listened to any radio political shows.

Since the Supreme Court has changed us to a corporate representative democracy, none of us will ever actually choose a candidate again. The Right Wing got their way. Now we ALL have to live with it.

I'm talking about the decision to allow any cooperation to spend as money as they want for OR against any candidate they want ! Joe, you got your way as you trust corporate America more than the government. HOWEVER NOW THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT.

We can't even get a bill passed that would allow us (USA citizens) to know who is spending and how much they are spending. IMHO that one single decision is the beginning of the end for the middle class.

And since I haven't seen any politics for weeks, these thought are obviously my own, unlike you.

I criticized Glen Beck based on the Glen Beck shows I've previously watched. If he made a change...cool. But based on how he twists the bible to suit himself, I wouldn't pay much attention to what he says anyhow.

[RiversFox]

Why does Beck bash our fore fathers by wanting to bring religion into the debate?

You want followers...say God is your friend.

He's mine.

[whitedevilone]

Obama says he paid "no attention"to the gathering?A quarter of a million Americans voicing their opininons and and complaints and YOUR President could have cared less.You fish must be sooooo proud.

Jim Quinn 2012.

[onegunguitar]

Obama says he paid "no attention"to the gathering?A quarter of a million Americans voicing their opininons and and complaints and YOUR President could have cared less.You fish must be sooooo proud.

Jim Quinn 2012.

If it interfered with one of his many vacations,I bet he would have paid attention to it.

[Hawk]

Obama says he paid "no attention"to the gathering?A quarter of a million Americans voicing their opininons and and complaints and YOUR President could have cared less.You fish must be sooooo proud.

Jim Quinn 2012.

If it interfered with one of his many vacations,I bet he would have paid attention to it.

GW set a record for vacations. Show me your previous complaints about that. Oh, you were okay with GW OR your didn't know he set a record.

At least if you guys complain, explain why it was okay when the right did it and NOT okay when the left does it. Go for it.

[Hawk]

Obama says he paid "no attention"to the gathering?A quarter of a million Americans voicing their opininons and and complaints and YOUR President could have cared less.You fish must be sooooo proud.

Jim Quinn 2012.

Source ?

[onegunguitar]

Obama says he paid "no attention"to the gathering?A quarter of a million Americans voicing their opininons and and complaints and YOUR President could have cared less.You fish must be sooooo proud.

Jim Quinn 2012.

If it interfered with one of his many vacations,I bet he would have paid attention to it.

GW set a record for vacations. Show me your previous complaints about that. Oh, you were okay with GW OR your didn't know he set a record.

At least if you guys complain, explain why it was okay when the right did it and NOT okay when the left does it. Go for it.

Yea,I was ok with GW taking vacations and I'm glad he set a record,so what's wrong with that?

[Hawk]

If it interfered with one of his many vacations,I bet he would have paid attention to it.

GW set a record for vacations. Show me your previous complaints about that. Oh, you were okay with GW OR your didn't know he set a record.

At least if you guys complain, explain why it was okay when the right did it and NOT okay when the left does it. Go for it.

Yea,I was ok with GW taking vacations and I'm glad he set a record,so what's wrong with that?

Very cool ! At least you admit you're a hypocrite. More balls than the rest of the hypocrites. Kudos to you !

[songsmith]

Glenn Beck, a talkshow host, drew a bunch of talkshow fans to a rally, on buses paid for by some really rich guys. Other than being oddly Messianic, Beck really didn't say anything that would matter to anyone but his fans, so it's much ado about nothing. Find Friday's Daily Show monologue on Beck on Youtube... much better than the sermon.
And everybody knows there were at least three quarters of a trillion people there. I saw it on the innerneck.--->JMS

[RobTheDrummer]

Obama says he paid "no attention"to the gathering?A quarter of a million Americans voicing their opininons and and complaints and YOUR President could have cared less.You fish must be sooooo proud.

Jim Quinn 2012.

If it interfered with one of his many vacations,I bet he would have paid attention to it.

GW set a record for vacations. Show me your previous complaints about that. Oh, you were okay with GW OR your didn't know he set a record.

At least if you guys complain, explain why it was okay when the right did it and NOT okay when the left does it. Go for it.

Source?

[tornandfrayed]

Remind me one more time how any of this is suppose to bring us together?

How any of this is suppose to help unemployment or to keep our Country strong?

The conversation has to change. As long as we are apart on these things we are not together. As long as we are not together we are weaker. As long as we are weaker we can easily be controlled.

Beck is a guy whop wants to tear everyone apart. Obama has done nothing.

Neither is any better or worse then the other, although I have not given up hope in either of these people.

[f.sciarrillo]

Remind me one more time how any of this is suppose to bring us together?

How any of this is suppose to help unemployment or to keep our Country strong?

The conversation has to change. As long as we are apart on these things we are not together. As long as we are not together we are weaker. As long as we are weaker we can easily be controlled.

Beck is a guy whop wants to tear everyone apart. Obama has done nothing.

Neither is any better or worse then the other, although I have not given up hope in either of these people.

Actually, it is the liberals who are tearing people apart. When you don't agree with them they right away tell you that you are stupid, retarded, a bigot, a racist, a islamaophobe, a homophobe, a moron, out of whack, mentally ill, not right in the head, and what ever insult they can come up with. They have nothing to go on and can't defend it, so they have to cop to the insults and accusations to try and get their point across.

They also call people who are against them Astroturf, and want to investigate anyone who is not with there stance; case in point, Pelosi wanting to investigate anyone who is against the Mosque in NYC. In reality, it should be them who are investigated. This organization is the most corrupt in history.

When the left learns to play nice and quits the childish bull, you will see a more cooperative country.

[Hawk]

If it interfered with one of his many vacations,I bet he would have paid attention to it.

GW set a record for vacations. Show me your previous complaints about that. Oh, you were okay with GW OR your didn't know he set a record.

At least if you guys complain, explain why it was okay when the right did it and NOT okay when the left does it. Go for it.

Source?

\487 days at Camp David
490 days at Crawford Ranch
43 days at Kennebunkport Compound

If you search for it, there is a plethora of sources.

[f.sciarrillo]

As for the vacations - Obama works for a day and takes a ten day vacation.

Beck and Sharpton aren't a competition, they are completely different people. I just found it interesting that that many people would show up to a rally when the left claims to be the true way of life.

Look at he recent gallop poll - Mid Terms have the libs at 41% and Repubs at 51%. They are saying that this could be the biggest win for the Repubs in history. It will be interesting to see how it turns out ..

http://www.gallup.com/poll/142718/gop-u ... allot.aspx

[Hawk]

Remind me one more time how any of this is suppose to bring us together?

How any of this is suppose to help unemployment or to keep our Country strong?

The conversation has to change. As long as we are apart on these things we are not together. As long as we are not together we are weaker. As long as we are weaker we can easily be controlled.

Beck is a guy whop wants to tear everyone apart. Obama has done nothing.

Neither is any better or worse then the other, although I have not given up hope in either of these people.

Actually, it is the liberals who are tearing people apart. When you don't agree with them they right away tell you that you are stupid, retarded, a bigot, a racist, a islamaophobe, a homophobe, a moron, out of whack, mentally ill, not right in the head, and what ever insult they can come up with. They have nothing to go on and can't defend it, so they have to cop to the insults and accusations to try and get their point across.

They also call people who are against them Astroturf, and want to investigate anyone who is not with there stance; case in point, Pelosi wanting to investigate anyone who is against the Mosque in NYC. In reality, it should be them who are investigated. This organization is the most corrupt in history.

When the left learns to play nice and quits the childish bull, you will see a more cooperative country.

How can anything get done when one party will say "No" to everything.

I am personally against the mosque near ground zero. But if you live by the constitution like you claim, you support it wholeheartedly.

Where do you get this about all of the name calling from liberals ?

What do you think of the Supreme Court ruling I mentioned ?

[Hawk]

As for the vacations - Obama works for a day and takes a ten day vacation.

Beck and Sharpton aren't a competition, they are completely different people. I just found it interesting that that many people would show up to a rally when the left claims to be the true way of life.

Look at he recent gallop poll - Mid Terms have the libs at 41% and Repubs at 51%. They are saying that this could be the biggest win for the Repubs in history. It will be interesting to see how it turns out ..

http://www.gallup.com/poll/142718/gop-u ... allot.aspx

I'm telling you now. With the recent Supreme Court ruling, the Democrats (or anyone who wants to regulate business) is gone forever. I know the Dems are done. You will get your way. We will be a one party system. You can stand up and cheer.

[Hawk]

Beck and Sharpton aren't a competition, they are completely different people. I just found it interesting that that many people would show up to a rally when the left claims to be the true way of life.

What a joke, you didn't find it interesting. You were elated. You started a damn thread because you were so orgasmic.

[f.sciarrillo]

Beck and Sharpton aren't a competition, they are completely different people. I just found it interesting that that many people would show up to a rally when the left claims to be the true way of life.

What a joke, you didn't find it interesting. You were elated. You started a damn thread because you were so orgasmic.

You are just upset because you know that that many people would never show up at a Olbermann rally. Face it, this country is not a liberal country. We are a center right country. The policies that are being shoved down our throats, and the direction this government is taking us is doing nothing but infuriating people.

As for the Supreme court ruling you are talking about; I agree with the ruling. The fact that big corporations, ie; Big Banks and Labor Unions, will not be able to bribe politicians makes it better. It will also lessen the fraud within the government.

[Hawk]

Beck is a guy whop wants to tear everyone apart. Obama has done nothing.

Yes about Beck. Propaganda about Obama and it's wrong.



Obama had numerous accomplishments in his first year
Passing stimulus, generating jobs. On February 17, 2009, Obama signed the $787 billion stimulus bill into law. In December 2009, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office issued a report estimating that "in the third quarter of calendar year 2009, an additional 600,000 to 1.6 million people were employed in the United States" due to that legislation. According to the White House Council of Economic Advisers, CBO has increased its estimate to 800,000 to 2.4 million additional employed through the fourth quarter of that year. Moreover, a November 20, 2009, New York Times article reported that the "consensus" among "dispassionate analysts" is that "the stimulus package, messy as it is, is working," citing nonpartisan analyses of gross domestic product and total employment figures by several companies specializing in economic forecasting. Further, a January 25 USA Today article stated that, according to its "quarterly survey of 50 economists," "nemployment would have hit 10.8% -- higher than December's 10% rate -- without Obama's $787 billion stimulus program," adding, "The difference would translate into another 1.2 million lost jobs."

Eliminating wasteful spending. Obama was able to achieve some significant cuts to wasteful spending -- most notably, the elimination of the F-22 fighter jet program after he successfully lobbied the Senate to vote to strip out financing for more jets from a defense funding authorization bill. The Washington Times reported on January 14 that Obama won "60 percent of his proposed cuts" and also managed "to get Congress to ax several programs that had bedeviled President George W. Bush for years."

Sotomayor nomination. On May 26, 2009, Obama nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court to replace the retiring Justice David Souter. She was confirmed by the Senate on August 6, 2009, and sworn in August 8, making her the first Hispanic justice, and only the third woman, on the court.

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. The first bill President Obama signed into law, on January 29, 2009, was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which expands the rights of workers to sue employers over wage discrimination claims.

SCHIP expansion. On February 5, 2009, Obama signed a bill expanding the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to cover 4 million more lower-income children.

Public lands bill. On March 30, Obama signed an omnibus public lands bill, which The New York Times reported "allows for 2 million more acres to be declared wilderness... [with] more than 1,000 miles designated as scenic rivers, and adds land for national trails."

Credit card reform. On May 21, 2009, Obama signed into law a bill providing what USA Today called the "most sweeping changes to the credit card industry in 40 years," adding restrictions on interest rate increases and fees and restricting the marketing of credit cards to college students.

Transparency. The Washington Post reported that moves by the Obama administration to improve government transparency "included a ban on lobbyist gifts; restrictions on the hiring of lobbyists; publication of White House visitor logs and other records; and a move to bar lobbyists from serving on advisory boards." A report by Common Cause, Democracy 21, the League of Women Voters, and U.S. PIRG stated that: "The cumulative effect of the Administration's actions has been to adopt the strongest and most comprehensive lobbying, ethics and transparency rules and policies ever established by an Administration to govern its own activities."

Tobacco regulation. On June 22, 2009, Obama signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, which, for the first time, gave the U.S. Food & Drug Administration the authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing, and sale of tobacco.

National service. On April 21, 2009, Obama signed the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, which expands the scope of AmeriCorps and provides opportunities for young people and senior citizens to join in service programs.

Stem cell research. On May 9, 2009, Obama signed an executive order easing restrictions on the use of federal money for embryonic stem cell research.

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List of President Obama’s accomplishments from Robert P. Watson, Ph.D. Coordinator of American Studies Lynn University.



1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform


Agree or disagree with him but he's been busy getting things done.