Health Care

[BloodyFingers]

I thought some of you would like this ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8

[Banned]

How's that hope and change thingy working out?

I did not happen to hear the part that says any of this law is Constitutional.

[Flaw]

How's that hope and change thingy working out?

I did not happen to hear the part that says any of this law is Constitutional.

violin music plays now.

[Banned]

How's that hope and change thingy working out?

I did not happen to hear the part that says any of this law is Constitutional.

violin music plays now.

Yeah, for our Constitution. This law just about puts in the last nail in the coffin.

[BloodyFingers]

Think we should start a rally here in Altoona ??

[f.sciarrillo]

The bill will either be repealed, or de-funded, after November.

[BloodyFingers]

The bill will either be repealed, or de-funded, after November.

I hope your right.

[Flaw]

How's that hope and change thingy working out?

I did not happen to hear the part that says any of this law is Constitutional.

violin music plays now.

Yeah, for our Constitution. This law just about puts in the last nail in the coffin.

that poor paper

[Hawk]

Did any of you get this Email about Muslims being exempt from the haelth care bill ? I did, but...read on...:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/govern ... andate.htm

[f.sciarrillo]

Did any of you get this Email about Muslims being exempt from the haelth care bill ? I did, but...read on...:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/govern ... andate.htm

Does that mean that Obama is exempt as well?

[Hawk]

Did any of you get this Email about Muslims being exempt from the haelth care bill ? I did, but...read on...:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/govern ... andate.htm

Does that mean that Obama is exempt as well?

So you read it ?

[Banned]

Did any of you get this Email about Muslims being exempt from the haelth care bill ? I did, but...read on...:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/govern ... andate.htm

Does that mean that Obama is exempt as well?

LOL

[f.sciarrillo]

Did any of you get this Email about Muslims being exempt from the haelth care bill ? I did, but...read on...:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/govern ... andate.htm

Does that mean that Obama is exempt as well?

So you read it ?

Yeah, you obviously don't know what I meant

[Hawk]

Does that mean that Obama is exempt as well?

So you read it ?

Yeah, you obviously don't know what I meant

Hell I never know what you mean. Unless it's a silly Muslim / Obama joke.

BTW Frank, how's that Reagan research thingy workin' out for ya ?

Do you ever feel that a lie by omission is still a lie? Do you ever feel slighted when Fox leaves so much out of your political education ? Have you learned the meaning of the word "ignorant" yet ?

[Banned]

Do you ever feel that a lie by omission is still a lie? Do you ever feel slighted when Fox leaves so much out of your political education ? Have you learned the meaning of the word "ignorant" yet ?

Bill, ya might want to switch to decaf.

Have you had your Cannondale out and about yet? We need to go hit those trails down by Williamsburg.

[f.sciarrillo]

So you read it ?

Yeah, you obviously don't know what I meant

Hell I never know what you mean. Unless it's a silly Muslim / Obama joke.

BTW Frank, how's that Reagan research thingy workin' out for ya ?

Do you ever feel that a lie by omission is still a lie? Do you ever feel slighted when Fox leaves so much out of your political education ? Have you learned the meaning of the word "ignorant" yet ?

Yes, in fact I have learned the word ignorant. It is what a liberal shows when someone doesn't agree with them :p

[songsmith]

The video is from August 9th of last year. I'm surprised it didn't mention the death panels. Oh, the DEATH PANELS!!
This vid has all the relevance of a warning for Y2K.

For the talkshow fanclub's benefit, on March 21st, that healthcare bill was ratified. No public option. No single-payer.
No death panels.
You guys fought a valiant effort, fraught with radical misinformation, cringing paranoia, thinly-veiled gun-violence threats; and your seeming favorite, mentally-challenged invective shouted at the top of one's lungs...
But you lost.
I disclose this because, your handlers apparently haven't told you yet. --->JMS

[Merge]

The American people lost when this bill was passed.

[Hawk]

Yeah, you obviously don't know what I meant

Hell I never know what you mean. Unless it's a silly Muslim / Obama joke.

BTW Frank, how's that Reagan research thingy workin' out for ya ?

Do you ever feel that a lie by omission is still a lie? Do you ever feel slighted when Fox leaves so much out of your political education ? Have you learned the meaning of the word "ignorant" yet ?

Yes, in fact I have learned the word ignorant. It is what a liberal shows when someone doesn't agree with them :p

Why is it that when I present you with verifiable facts to prove to yopu how ignorant you are that you attempt to deflect (hide your ignorance) with some stupid remark ?

YOU new nothing about Reagan. Nothing about Ron Paul. Nothing about Reagan, Bush and W Bush's incredible contribution to our deficit. Nothing. THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR RIGHT WING MEDIA ONLY SOURCES. That should be a wake up call that there might be more to the truth than one sided media sources. Not for you though... Searching outside is either outside your comfort zone, or you've been indoctrinated into believing the only truth comes from right wing sources. THAT my friend is exactly how Adolf Hitler conned the Germans.

Frank, I don't give a damn if you agree with me or not. My problem with you is and always has been your political ignorance. Your incredibly stupid posts that add nothing to the debate / conversation.

How much bandwidth you take up with your fact-less opinions. You're a typical Fox Poster Child representing everyone who can't think for themselves. If I present you with facts and you fail to see your own ignorance (relative to your "Fox Svengali Syndrome") because you didn't hear it on some right wing media source proves how the right wing has you under their collective spell.

I don't care if undercoverjoe or lonewolf disagree with me because they have a firm grasp of facts and personal research and knowledge. These are three things you don't have. They present me with facts do validate their opinions.

Do you get it ? Disagree with some substance.

On the other hand, you manage to say one thing over and over. You don't like Obama. We get it Frank, you don't need to tell us anymore. Why don't you understand that your posts have no substance.

Just presenting a constant dislike for someone is annoying. Perhaps that's what you like about yourself ? Also your like for some people (Reagan, Ron Paul) is just as annoying when you don't know anything about them. Again proving your ignorance. Hell you never even knew there was a deficit before Obama. Now that is stupid AND ignorant. Again, that's because the right wing media didn't want you to know there was a deficit. And because they are YOUR ONLY POLITICAL SOURCE, you were clueless. Doesn't that scare you at all ? It scare me. People like you actually cast votes based on a lack of knowledge specifically formulated for your ingestion . At least gather all the facts before you form an opinion.

I also wonder why, when you are presented with facts you did not know, you ignore them ? "Fox Svengali Syndrome".

All of this shows everyone your ignorance. As do your responses when presented with the facts. You ignore them and make a failed attempt at some insult levity.

Being that I used a form of the word ignorant so many times, perhaps it's time for you top look up the word.


Pick up some musical instrument and go support live music.

To everyone at Fox and ALL right wing media, when it comes to Frank and the millions like him, "Mission Accomplished".

[f.sciarrillo]

Hell I never know what you mean. Unless it's a silly Muslim / Obama joke.

BTW Frank, how's that Reagan research thingy workin' out for ya ?

Do you ever feel that a lie by omission is still a lie? Do you ever feel slighted when Fox leaves so much out of your political education ? Have you learned the meaning of the word "ignorant" yet ?

Yes, in fact I have learned the word ignorant. It is what a liberal shows when someone doesn't agree with them :p

Why is it that when I present you with verifiable facts to prove to yopu how ignorant you are that you attempt to deflect (hide your ignorance) with some stupid remark ?

YOU new nothing about Reagan. Nothing about Ron Paul. Nothing about Reagan, Bush and W Bush's incredible contribution to our deficit. Nothing. THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR RIGHT WING MEDIA ONLY SOURCES. That should be a wake up call that there might be more to the truth than one sided media sources. Not for you though... Searching outside is either outside your comfort zone, or you've been indoctrinated into believing the only truth comes from right wing sources. THAT my friend is exactly how Adolf Hitler conned the Germans.

Frank, I don't give a damn if you agree with me or not. My problem with you is and always has been your political ignorance. Your incredibly stupid posts that add nothing to the debate / conversation.

How much bandwidth you take up with your fact-less opinions. You're a typical Fox Poster Child representing everyone who can't think for themselves. If I present you with facts and you fail to see your own ignorance (relative to your "Fox Svengali Syndrome") because you didn't hear it on some right wing media source proves how the right wing has you under their collective spell.

I don't care if undercoverjoe or lonewolf disagree with me because they have a firm grasp of facts and personal research and knowledge. These are three things you don't have. They present me with facts do validate their opinions.

Do you get it ? Disagree with some substance.

On the other hand, you manage to say one thing over and over. You don't like Obama. We get it Frank, you don't need to tell us anymore. Why don't you understand that your posts have no substance.

Just presenting a constant dislike for someone is annoying. Perhaps that's what you like about yourself ? Also your like for some people (Reagan, Ron Paul) is just as annoying when you don't know anything about them. Again proving your ignorance. Hell you never even knew there was a deficit before Obama. Now that is stupid AND ignorant. Again, that's because the right wing media didn't want you to know there was a deficit. And because they are YOUR ONLY POLITICAL SOURCE, you were clueless. Doesn't that scare you at all ? It scare me. People like you actually cast votes based on a lack of knowledge specifically formulated for your ingestion . At least gather all the facts before you form an opinion.

I also wonder why, when you are presented with facts you did not know, you ignore them ? "Fox Svengali Syndrome".

All of this shows everyone your ignorance. As do your responses when presented with the facts. You ignore them and make a failed attempt at some insult levity.

Being that I used a form of the word ignorant so many times, perhaps it's time for you top look up the word.


Pick up some musical instrument and go support live music.

To everyone at Fox and ALL right wing media, when it comes to Frank and the millions like him, "Mission Accomplished".

You giving a long winded reply, like this one, about a one sided attempt from info that you get from MSNBC is the reason why. You only know one thing, that is your thing - and whatever Chris Mathews and Keith Olberman tell you. Nice try .. I only avoid answering your stupidity because of the one sideness you show. The only facts you have are the ones you feel are facts. Learn something and maybe it will be more civilized and the wanting to have a "legitimate" argument with you will commence.

And before you start with the Fox News BS. Which I know you haven't watched in a while - I been watching nothing but MSNBC and CNN, and just because I watch them doesn't mean I believe everything they say. In fact, from what I have seen so far, I would say CNN is ten times more a news network than the Obama ass kissing station MSNBC.

So say all you want about my ignorance and how politically stupid I am. As long as you continue to do the typical liberal agenda and assassinate character, I will not respond to you in a normal fashion.

[Hawk]

Frank. THERE WAS A FUCKING DEFICIT BEFORE OBAMA ! FACT

THE DEFICIT INCREASED UNDER REAGAN, BUSH AND BUSH. FACT

REAGAN INCREASED TAXES TO THE MIDDLE CLASS WITH TAX REFORM.

REAGAN CUT TAXES TO THE RICH AND INCREASED SPENDING. FACT

W. BUSH INCREASED TAX CUTS TO THE RICH AND INCREASED THE DEFICIT. FACT

YOU FRANK, DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS A DEFICIT BEFORE OBAMA!!!!! FACT, GAME, SET AND MATCH.

WAKE THE (expletive deleted) UP YOU (insulting adjective deleted). I DIDN'T MAKE THESE FACTS UP.


ASK ANYBODY. PLEASE, FIND OUT THE TRUTH.

AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ALOUD TO VOTE ? Socraties was right ! When the majority are stupid, democracy has a major flaw!

[f.sciarrillo]

Frank. THERE WAS A FUCKING DEFICIT BEFORE OBAMA ! FACT

I know there was you schmuck - You are starting to piss me off here ..

THE DEFICIT INCREASED UNDER REAGAN, BUSH AND BUSH. FACT

It got to be the biggest in history under Obama - FACT !

REAGAN INCREASED TAXES TO THE MIDDLE CLASS WITH TAX REFORM.

Obama did also with this stupid healthcare and bail out shit! FACT !!

REAGAN CUT TAXES TO THE RICH AND INCREASED SPENDING. FACT

Obama raised taxes to the all the people in this country to fund his spread the wealth bull shit. And spent more in the last year then bush did his whole 8 years in office - FACT !

W. BUSH INCREASED TAX CUTS TO THE RICH AND INCREASED THE DEFICIT. FACT

Obama spent more in the past year than Bush did in his whole 8 years, again - raised taxes on everyone, he is still finding ways to bankrupt all people of this country - Fact.

YOU FRANK, DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS A DEFICIT BEFORE OBAMA!!!!! FACT, GAME, SET AND MATCH.

I knew there was one before Obama - You claim that the one Bush had was worse than Obama's - You sir are wrong, dead wrong. Obama has spent more in his first year than bush did in his whole eight years. And he is going to spend more and more and more. Putting this country further and further into debt. He doesn't care about the people of this country and he has no idea what the hell he is doing. HE IS THE WORSE PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD !! Come 2012 he will loose the election by a land sli8de. Carter only had 48 electoral votes in his second run - I bet Obama gets less than that !

WAKE THE (expletive deleted) UP YOU (insulting adjective deleted). I DIDN'T MAKE THESE FACTS UP.

You are the one making tings up (your source for them was MSNBC - only to make your love boy Obama look good. It isn't working. Ask 52% of the country they will tell you

ASK ANYBODY. PLEASE, FIND OUT THE TRUTH

The only people who think they know the whole truth are people who are in love with the messiah they call Barry - The only people who think they know the whole truth are the liberals. They are always the right ones and everyone else are the wrong ones, hence another reason why I will never be a liberal - You are all a bunch of idiots who think they can do anything for the country by forcing everyone to be on welfare and taking all the money out the hard working people of this country to keep you in power, while all the time just bankrupting this country and putting us more dependent on the government and stupid inbreeds from third world countries who hate us.

It is time for you to wake up and look at what is around you and not in the head of yours. .

AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ALOUD TO VOTE ? Socraties was right ! When the majority are stupid, democracy has a major flaw!

Yes people like me are allowed to vote because I see what is happening around me and don't take everything the MSNBC says as truth. You on the other hand do - Since you are one who wants this country to go further down the tubes, you should not be allowed to vote - Your one sided bs is just that, bs - You know nothing about anything but what you think you know. You don't care about anything but your personal agenda - Bankrupt the country, make us more dependent on government, make people who work their ass off pay for people who are too lazy to get off their ass and get a job, make everyone pay for the health care of all people, give all our money to third world countries for their oil because you are afraid to hurt an area that might have a spotted owl, keep the people of this country under then thumb of the government, throw out the constitution, make the laws up to suit your own needs, take bribes from the people who pay for you to stay in office. Listen more to the people who pay the most campaign money, kill the morality of this country - I go on and on and on and on and on ..

You sir, are oficially warped. You sir need to get some air and think for a while - You sir need to open your eyes as you see nothing that is real and you know nothing that is real. Your sense of reality is of a non plausible realm, you are stuck in a dream world of boy child obama and favor the MSNBC brass as real news !

Before you start with the rebuttal - I know, since I don't agree with the Obama admin that I am a racist; bigot; fear monger; redneck; uneducated inbreed looking for the next clan rally to go to. Now where is my truck and chaw of chew and gun, Ye-haw ! *spit* (I thought I would put that there so you don't have to) I am done here - You are washed ..

Side note: I didn't agree with everything Bush did either - But unlike you, I saw both sides of an issue before I made a final decision. And you may think it strange but there are some things that I do agree with obama on - just 99% of it I don't. Especially when it comes to putting this country further in the hole and taking our rights away.

[Hawk]

Frank. THERE WAS A FUCKING DEFICIT BEFORE OBAMA ! FACT

I know there was you schmuck - You are starting to piss me off here ..
YOU ARE A LIAR. I WILL FIND YOUR POST STATING THAT OBAMA CREATED AN 11 TRILLION DEFICIT AND WHERE YOU SAID I WAS MAKING IT UP THAT THERE WAS A 10 TRILLION DEFICIT BEFORE OBAMA.

THE DEFICIT INCREASED UNDER REAGAN, BUSH AND BUSH. FACT

It got to be the biggest in history under Obama - FACT !
NO SHIT. ANY INCREASE WOULD MAKE IT THE LARGEST IN HISTORY.

REAGAN INCREASED TAXES TO THE MIDDLE CLASS WITH TAX REFORM.

Obama did also with this stupid healthcare and bail out shit! FACT !!
I DON'T DENY OBAMA IS INCREASING THE DEFICIT. I NEVER DID.

REAGAN CUT TAXES TO THE RICH AND INCREASED SPENDING. FACT

Obama raised taxes to the all the people in this country to fund his spread the wealth bull shit. And spent more in the last year then bush did his whole 8 years in office - FACT !
TELL ME MORE ABOUT OBAMA RAISING TAXES. TO WHOM AND WHEN?
YOU ARE WRONMG ABOUT OBAMA SPENDING MORE IN ONE YEAR THAN BUSH DID IN 8 YEARS. SHOW ME .

W. BUSH INCREASED TAX CUTS TO THE RICH AND INCREASED THE DEFICIT. FACT

Obama spent more in the past year than Bush did in his whole 8 years, again - raised taxes on everyone, he is still finding ways to bankrupt all people of this country - Fact.
TAX INCREASE ?

YOU FRANK, DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS A DEFICIT BEFORE OBAMA!!!!! FACT, GAME, SET AND MATCH.

I knew there was one before Obama - You claim that the one Bush had was worse than Obama's - You sir are wrong, dead wrong. Obama has spent more in his first year than bush did in his whole eight years. And he is going to spend more and more and more. Putting this country further and further into debt. He doesn't care about the people of this country and he has no idea what the hell he is doing. HE IS THE WORSE PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD !! Come 2012 he will loose the election by a land sli8de. Carter only had 48 electoral votes in his second run - I bet Obama gets less than that !
I WILL FIND YOUR POST WHERE YOU CLAIMED OBAMA CREATED AN 11 TRILLUION DEFICIT. SELECTIVE MEMORY OR A LIE FRANK ?

WAKE THE (expletive deleted) UP YOU (insulting adjective deleted). I DIDN'T MAKE THESE FACTS UP.

You are the one making tings up - only to make your love boy Obama look good. It isn't working. Ask 52% of the country they will tell you
MY FACTS ARE REAL

ASK ANYBODY. PLEASE, FIND OUT THE TRUTH

The only people who think they know the whole truth are people who are in love with the messiah they call Barry - The only people who think they know the whole truth are the liberals. They are always the right ones and everyone else are the wrong ones, hence another reason why I will never be a liberal - You are all a bunch of idiots who think they can do anything for the country by forcing everyone to be on welfare and taking all the money out the hard working people of this country to keep you in power, while all the time just bankrupting this country and putting us more dependent on the government and stupid inbreeds from third world countries who hate us.
I BELIEVE THE RIGHT KNOWS THE TRUTH , THEY JUST WON'T TELL YOU

It is time for you to wake up and look at what is around you and not in the head of yours. .

AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ALOUD TO VOTE ? Socraties was right ! When the majority are stupid, democracy has a major flaw!

Yes people like me are allowed to vote because I see what is happening around me and don't take everything the MSNBC says as truth. You on the other hand do - Since you are one who wants this country to go further down the tubes, you should not be allowed to vote - Your one sided bs is just that, bs - You know nothing about anything but what you think you know. You don't care about anything but your personal agenda - Bankrupt the country, make us more dependent on government, make people who work their ass off pay for people who are too lazy to get off their ass and get a job, make everyone pay for the health care of all people, give all our money to third world countries for their oil because you are afraid to hurt an area that might have a spotted owl, keep the people of this country under then thumb of the government, throw out the constitution, make the laws up to suit your own needs, take bribes from the people who pay for you to stay in office. Listen more to the people who pay the most campaign money, kill the morality of this country - I go on and on and on and on and on ..
WHY DIDN'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE DEFICIT WHEN IT WAS 10 TRILLION FRANK? WHY NO CONCERN FROM THE RIGHT WHEN IT WAS 10 TRILLION FRANK? WHY DIDN'T YOU EVER WRITE A NEGATIVE COMMENT WHEN IT WAS 10 TRILLION FRANK?

You sir, are oficially warped. You sir need to get some air and think for a while - You sir need to open your eyes as you see nothing that is real and you know nothing that is real. Your sense of reality is of a non plausible realm, you are stuck in a dream world of boy child obama and favor the MSNBC brass as real news !

I am done here - You are washed ..

[Hawk]

Frank, I searched. The only tax increase I can find is the increased tax increase on cigarettes. Will you enlighten me with the rest of his tax increases ? Did you make it up or can you show me some source ?

My only hope is that he actually makes the taxes the same as the were under Reagan.

[Hawk]

Frank, Bush spent $3.4 Trillion in his final year in office.
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/12/ ... since-lbj/