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This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the United States Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the Federal Communications Commission regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of United States Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the United States congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the United States Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the United States Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how socialsism in medicine is bad because the government can't do anything right.


This was taken from a post on Facebook that my wife found.....
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Ask not what you can do for your government, but what you government can do for you!
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True! If the government is not there to help the people then what do you suggest the primary purpose for this monstrosity is?
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tornandfrayed wrote:True! If the government is not there to help the people then what do you suggest the primary purpose for this monstrosity is?
It is good for the government to help, to an extent. When you get people who rely on the government for everything is when you get an issue. People should be wanting to do for themselves and their family, not having the government pay their way through everything in their lives ..
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tornandfrayed wrote:True! If the government is not there to help the people then what do you suggest the primary purpose for this monstrosity is?
To be dismantled and returned back to its original purposes:

- Protect the borders and establish rule of naturalization
- Maintain and regulate the military
- Regulate commerce with foreign nations
- Regulate commerce between the States without interfering with or assuming the Constitutional duties of the States
- Maintain and protect the currency
- Provide for the Postal Service and associated highways.
- Limited and specific support of science & technology
- Necessary and sensible taxation and borrowing
- To declare war if absolutely necessary

Items in bold denote failure or failure in progress
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For those of you against socialist programs... you should not except these programs offered by the USA..

Social Security Programs
Unemployment Insurance
Temporary Disability Insurance
Medicare
Medicaid
Medicare Prescription Drug Plan

If your that "go-ho" about it, then please sign up to not be on it ;)

Bet my life ya wont
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gibson980 wrote:For those of you against socialist programs... you should not except these programs offered by the USA..

Social Security Programs
Unemployment Insurance
Temporary Disability Insurance
Medicare
Medicaid
Medicare Prescription Drug Plan

If your that "go-ho" about it, then please sign up to not be on it ;)

Bet my life ya wont
They don't give you that choice.

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gibson980 wrote:For those of you against socialist programs... you should not except these programs offered by the USA..

Social Security Programs
Unemployment Insurance
Temporary Disability Insurance
Medicare
Medicaid
Medicare Prescription Drug Plan

If your that "go-ho" about it, then please sign up to not be on it ;)

Bet my life ya wont
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So far in my life, I've never used any of the mentioned systems. Except to pay into them.....I'm 45 and have worked since I was 12.
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gibson980 wrote:For those of you against socialist programs... you should not except these programs offered by the USA..

Social Security Programs
Unemployment Insurance
Temporary Disability Insurance
Medicare
Medicaid
Medicare Prescription Drug Plan

If your that "go-ho" about it, then please sign up to not be on it ;)

Bet my life ya wont
I'm going to agree with f.sciarrillo on this one... helping those who need it, good. Those who don't need it, but milk it anyway, are the worst part of these programs. If they don't have the drive to provide for themselves then why are they allowed to live off of our dime/drive?

My neighbor and I, who I never really got along with since any music that he can hear is "too darn loud", got into a conversation while I was helping him dig his car out after that big storm. Told me he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer just after the new year. He still gets up and goes to work. every. day.

Makes me wonder what kind of humans some of these freeloaders are, deep down, who think that they deserve to live off the backs of people like that...

BUT I also don't feel that its worth cutting off those who need it, just so the people who don't need it, don't get it. Much like I'm torn over this healthcare crap. We have a duty to our fellow man, and I'm glad if even 1 person will benefit from this. But there are better ways to do it.



Also, I'm going to use those programs if/when I need them. I paid into them a LOT (like many here), and I want out of them at least what I put in. I expect no more, but also no less.
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Jack (and the many who share his point of view) - I agree that freeloaders are a problem.

In 68% of families receiving public assistance, the householder works full time year round (and makes such shitty wages that they are still eligible.)

In about 3/4 of the remaining households, the householder works part time all of the year, or full time part of the year. (Lichter, 1998)

That accounts for over 90% of households receiving public assistance (or, to use a more dreaded term, "welfare.")

So, yes, freeloaders are misusing the system and are deserving of disdain. However, they constitute a very small %. Although I am sure Rush and Glenn will NEVER both to mention any such facts.....
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Yea, freeloaders are a big problem, and they just passed the biggest freeloader bill in history! :wink:
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J Michaels wrote:So, yes, freeloaders are misusing the system and are deserving of disdain. However, they constitute a very small %. Although I am sure Rush and Glenn will NEVER both to mention any such facts.....
Here is a little known fact that progressives will never mention:

The US Constitution does not mention public assistance in any way shape or form; however, the Pennsylvania Constitution specifically does under

Section 29. Appropriations for Public Assistance, Military Service, Scholarships

Every state has some kind of Constitutional provision for public assistance, but the US Constitution does not. You don't think they were trying to tell us something, do you?
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I'm just happy we're now calling it what it is.

To be sure, I'm also happy for our way of life. But it is not reason enough to continue down the socialism track. All the entitlement programs previosly listed were all brought about with generally good intentions, also. One thing that wasn't mentioned in the cute quote, how our debt is on pace to eat us up!
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gibson980 wrote:For those of you against socialist programs... you should not except these programs offered by the USA..

Social Security Programs
Unemployment Insurance
Temporary Disability Insurance
Medicare
Medicaid
Medicare Prescription Drug Plan

If your that "go-ho" about it, then please sign up to not be on it ;)

Bet my life ya wont
I will be first in line to get out of these "services", just return all of my money you stole from me for "my benefit" that paid for these programs.
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To me it's like being forced to buy that EXTENDED WARRANTY on every product.

When you by a cd player, they ask if you want to purchase the 3 year protection plan for $39.99. You have the option to buy it or waive it.
If you choose to waive it and your CD player breaks, you are SOL. However, it was your choice and you took on the risk.

The problem with these programs is that you are forced to pay into it. I would love the option of being able to waive my option to pay into social security and keep the money and invest it on my own. If I make money, great. On the other hand, if get into a car accident and can never work again, I am SOL. Nevertheless, it would be nice to make the choice and decide what programs you want to support and/or be able to waive your rights out of them.
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moxham123 wrote:The Government Can

http://www.timhawkins.net/video/government-can.html
Awesome!!!!
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moxham123 wrote:The Government Can

http://www.timhawkins.net/video/government-can.html
That was great :lol:
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You're Uncle Sam can because he mixes it with lies and makes it all taste good! haha What a line!

I guess some liberal will now stand in defense against that video.....
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RobTheDrummer wrote:You're Uncle Sam can because he mixes it with lies and makes it all taste good! haha What a line!

I guess some liberal will now stand in defense against that video.....

I'm not a liberal, and i wont stand against the message. I just wish it wasn't made by some brainwashed conservative, and have it directed towards all parties. They all are at fault.
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J Michaels wrote:Jack (and the many who share his point of view) - I agree that freeloaders are a problem.

In 68% of families receiving public assistance, the householder works full time year round (and makes such shitty wages that they are still eligible.)

In about 3/4 of the remaining households, the householder works part time all of the year, or full time part of the year. (Lichter, 1998)

That accounts for over 90% of households receiving public assistance (or, to use a more dreaded term, "welfare.")

So, yes, freeloaders are misusing the system and are deserving of disdain. However, they constitute a very small %. Although I am sure Rush and Glenn will NEVER both to mention any such facts.....
WHAT? Not all welfare recipients are junkie losers who drive Escalades, play video games, and pound out mixed-race babies a dozen at a time? That simply cannot be true! You're a liar! You're a socialist! Our Satanic Majesty is SO going to do a chalkboard on this!

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J Michaels wrote:Jack (and the many who share his point of view) - I agree that freeloaders are a problem.

In 68% of families receiving public assistance, the householder works full time year round (and makes such shitty wages that they are still eligible.)

In about 3/4 of the remaining households, the householder works part time all of the year, or full time part of the year. (Lichter, 1998)

That accounts for over 90% of households receiving public assistance (or, to use a more dreaded term, "welfare.")

So, yes, freeloaders are misusing the system and are deserving of disdain. However, they constitute a very small %. Although I am sure Rush and Glenn will NEVER both to mention any such facts.....
is there a link to this? I would like to see all the #'s, I will take your word for it.
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Flaw wrote:
RobTheDrummer wrote:You're Uncle Sam can because he mixes it with lies and makes it all taste good! haha What a line!

I guess some liberal will now stand in defense against that video.....

I'm not a liberal, and i wont stand against the message. I just wish it wasn't made by some brainwashed conservative, and have it directed towards all parties. They all are at fault.
I thought it was directed at all parties, just seems that more liberals would defend against.
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Flaw wrote:
RobTheDrummer wrote:You're Uncle Sam can because he mixes it with lies and makes it all taste good! haha What a line!

I guess some liberal will now stand in defense against that video.....

I'm not a liberal, and i wont stand against the message. I just wish it wasn't made by some brainwashed conservative, and have it directed towards all parties. They all are at fault.
Why do you assume this guy is a conservative? And could you tell us how you know he is brainwashed. He could easily be a Constitutionalist or a Libertarian. Most people who think they are conservative are not that much against big government control, as long as it is their control.
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