Thomas Jefferson said...WHAT ?

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Thomas Jefferson said...WHAT ?

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" I hope we shall take warning from the example and CRUSH in it's birth the aristocracy of our MONIED CORPORATIONS which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to our country." - Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson NEVER said:
The best government is that which governs the least.
OR the variance:
The government is best which governs the least.
These are attributed to John L. Sullivan in 1837
No findings of Jefferson saying or writing this has ever been found.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

Here is an interesting (related) article (albeit slanted left) but fact based just enough for me to ask you're opinion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/opinion/11tue4.html
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"That government which governs the least, governs best."
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Some others:

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.



Wow, is that last one appropriate right now.

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undercoverjoe wrote:"That government which governs the least, governs best."
Yep. he never said that. It was john L. Sulivan.
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Hawk wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:"That government which governs the least, governs best."
Yep. he never said that. It was john L. Sulivan.
The source I cited said that Henry David Thoreau credited that quote to Jefferson. But, John L. Sullivan is a cool guy. I used to eat lunch sitting under his statue in Scranton, Pa.

It is interesting that the man who started the first union (coal miners) would be famous for his quote about less government. Now, all the union thugs vote for democrats and more government.
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You just need to stop...'cause you haven't a clue...and are all too ready to
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"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground:

That "all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people."

To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.

The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill, have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States, by the Constitution... They are not among the powers specially enumerated... "


Such a brilliant interpretation of the Constitution.

Its too bad that nobody in today's government pays any attention to Jefferson.
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Hawk wrote:" I hope we shall take warning from the example and CRUSH in it's birth the aristocracy of our MONIED CORPORATIONS which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to our country." - Thomas Jefferson
Actually, Mr. Jefferson most likely said, "I hope we shall take warning from the example and crush in its birth..."

Possesive pronouns do not utilize an apostrophe.

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Capt. Grammar wrote:
Hawk wrote:" I hope we shall take warning from the example and CRUSH in it's birth the aristocracy of our MONIED CORPORATIONS which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to our country." - Thomas Jefferson
Actually, Mr. Jefferson most likely said, "I hope we shall take warning from the example and crush in its birth..."

Possesive pronouns do not utilize an apostrophe.

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Would you also agree that the direct object of Mr. Jefferson's statement is not "MONIED CORPORATIONS," but is "the ARISTOCRACY?"

Correct me if I am wrong, but "of the monied corporations" is an adjective phrase that modifies the aforementioned direct object.
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