Would this work?

[Tegamal]

I've heard of guitarists that run FX processors into the Loop return & bypass their preamp altogether for cleans. Rob Arnold does this with his 6505 & a Digitech GSP-1101.

My question is if you had a chorus & delay pedal run into the return of an amp, then an A/B switch connecting you to the front & rear of the head, would that work for switching channels & sounds with only one button?

I think it would work, but I'm not 100% sure. Anyone try or hear of anything like this? I plan to get a 5150/6505 (which are not know for a good clean sound) & was thinking of a setup like this.

Thanks in advance!

[lonewolf]

You will probably need a clean booster or preamp to boost your guitar signal up to the line level required on your amp's FX return. Its possible that your pedals will boost it enough.

To test this, you can plug your guitar directly into your pedals and on to your FX return. If your pedals have output level controls, try adjusting them. If the amp plays loud enough this way, then the answer is: yes it will work. If it doesn't, you will need a clean boost or preamp in line with your pedals.

To do this, you would need to "Y" route your guitar signal to both the pedals and to the guitar amp input. On an AB box, connect the pedals to "A", the FX send to "B" and the FX return to common.

Alternative: Some FX processors, like the Boss GT series, have a programmable FX loop that allows you to put your guitar amp's preamp in their FX chain and turn it on and off. With them, you plug your guitar into the FX processor, the processor's FX send to the amp's input, the amp's FX send to the processor's FX return and the processor's main out to the amp's FX return. This is probably the ultimate switching hookup because you can place whatever effects you want either before or after your amp's preamp, or completely bypass it.

[Tegamal]

Yeah, I think that's how Rob Arnold does it.

We have one song with a clean part & I love those crystal, gleaming cleans, & I know I can't get that with a 5150, so I'm looking for the best way to do it that won't break the bank.

Thanx!

[Tegamal]

Ok, I was reading up more on the Boss GT-8 after your post, Wolf, & it raised some other questions, not sure if you can answer them or not.

If I'm reading correctly, the GT-8 has an input & output to the amp, it's own effects send & return, & a amp switch jack (same jack as the 5150).

Would it be possible to run one patch as a clean, sending the signal to the effects return on the head, bypassing the amp's preamp completely?

Then run another patch as a main rhythm, sending the signal to the amp's Green Channel w/ an EQ running through the loop...

And yet another patch running into the amp's Red Channel as a Lead, with a chorus, delay, & reverb?

All of this, while using the GT-8 almost as an Abacus Board.

Does this sound right to anyone with more experience? It sounds like a killer setup, which is why I doubt it will work, haha

[onegunguitar]

Ok, I was reading up more on the Boss GT-8 after your post, Wolf, & it raised some other questions, not sure if you can answer them or not.

If I'm reading correctly, the GT-8 has an input & output to the amp, it's own effects send & return, & a amp switch jack (same jack as the 5150).

Would it be possible to run one patch as a clean, sending the signal to the effects return on the head, bypassing the amp's preamp completely?

Then run another patch as a main rhythm, sending the signal to the amp's Green Channel w/ an EQ running through the loop...

And yet another patch running into the amp's Red Channel as a Lead, with a chorus, delay, & reverb?

All of this, while using the GT-8 almost as an Abacus Board.

Does this sound right to anyone with more experience? It sounds like a killer setup, which is why I doubt it will work, haha

The 4 cable method would achieve what your looking for.
Except it would be the GT-8,not the Pod.
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[Tegamal]

I think you meant it would work for a POD, but not the GT-8, but I get the idea, thanx!

[lonewolf]

Ok, I was reading up more on the Boss GT-8 after your post, Wolf, & it raised some other questions, not sure if you can answer them or not.

If I'm reading correctly, the GT-8 has an input & output to the amp, it's own effects send & return, & a amp switch jack (same jack as the 5150).

Would it be possible to run one patch as a clean, sending the signal to the effects return on the head, bypassing the amp's preamp completely?

Then run another patch as a main rhythm, sending the signal to the amp's Green Channel w/ an EQ running through the loop...

And yet another patch running into the amp's Red Channel as a Lead, with a chorus, delay, & reverb?

All of this, while using the GT-8 almost as an Abacus Board.

Does this sound right to anyone with more experience? It sounds like a killer setup, which is why I doubt it will work, haha

The GT-8 will do all that with the rigging I described + you need a guitar/instrument cable from the amp switch jack on the GT-8 to the channel switch jack on the 5150.

As far as I know, none of the Pods have the amp switch jack. The older PODs don't have an FX loop and can't do this. PodX3 Live can, but not switch your amp.

[lonewolf]

I think you meant it would work for a POD, but not the GT-8, but I get the idea, thanx!

That diagram is what I described for the GT-8. Yes, the GT-8 will work.

[onegunguitar]

What I meant was in the diagram,the POD would be the GT. I figured you would have got it.

[Tegamal]

HAHA, sorry, when I saw the Pod, I thought you were saying this is how the Pod would hook up.

Yeah, I think this will be a badass little setup.

[onegunguitar]

HAHA, sorry, when I saw the Pod, I thought you were saying this is how the Pod would hook up.

Yeah, I think this will be a badass little setup.