New Palin garbage to think and laugh about

[paul]

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....
* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the
first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter
registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years
as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of
the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years
in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people
while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs,
Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you
don't have any real leadership experience..

* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city
council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000
people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people,
then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking
executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while
raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're
not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system while your
unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in
a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values
don't represent America's.

* If your husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until
age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession
of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable. OK, much
clearer now..."



Just more shit to think about as it might be ok to have her as a VP but just hope if elected that McCain makes it through the term or we are in for a bigger world of shit than if he would stay alive and ruin the next 4 years on his own. I think its time to write a stupid song
Paul

[f.sciarrillo]

I take it that you been watching cnn, msnbc, abc, and cbs ? I also gather that you are supporting Barrack Hussien Obama ? Actually, all this liberal bs is what makes me laugh.

There is one thing, all those 131 bills - He didn't sponsor them, he voted present at them. No vote for yes, no vote for no. You like who you like, that is your right, but it is mine and every one Else's right to not agree with you.

In case you are wondering, I am not a McCain supporter. I am also not a Obama supporter. I am my own supporter

[JakeWilliams]

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Paul, although I see and partially agree with your basic point above - I must bring up that the media is not entirely supportive of Palin either. She's had her share of bad press like Barrack.

However, it does seem that the media makes really, really big deals about the smallest thing they find about Barrack. And stuff about Palin gets swept under the rug pretty quickly.

America apparently is smart enough to see right through this media bias and Barrack is still enjoying a hefty lead in the polls at this point.

I just hope Barrack tries to do what he says he wants to do. Regardless of whether he achieves his goals - I simply hope he tries. If so, he'll be a lot better than what we have today.

[JakeWilliams]

...Barrack Hussien Obama...

Is it really that important to you that the middle name of Barack is included there? Do you think we would think you meant some other "Barrack Obama"?

You're desire to make sure and point out that Barrack shares a middle name with a hated dictator is right in line with the media's tendency to focus on anything that will sell a story...

[Hawk]

Paul, I can't believe you're doing a political thread !

Well done.

[Hawk]

I take it that you been watching cnn, msnbc, abc, and cbs ? I also gather that you are supporting Barrack Hussien Obama ? Actually, all this liberal bs is what makes me laugh.

There is one thing, all those 131 bills - He didn't sponsor them, he voted present at them. No vote for yes, no vote for no. You like who you like, that is your right, but it is mine and every one Else's right to not agree with you.

In case you are wondering, I am not a McCain supporter. I am also not a Obama supporter. I am my own supporter

Where do you get your information ? I mean really, I want to know who spews such misinformation ?

Here is the list of Obama SPONSERED BILLS FROM the library of congress.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/? ... ybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Sen+Obama++Barack))+01763))

For some reason the link doesn't work. Google :"Obama Sopnsored Bills" and you will see a title " Obama sponsored 151 bills according to the Libray" It will present you with the list.

I suggest that it should be you that uses more than one source in order to gather information.

[BDR]

...Barrack Hussien Obama...

Is it really that important to you that the middle name of Barack is included there? Do you think we would think you meant some other "Barrack Obama"?

You're desire to make sure and point out that Barrack shares a middle name with a hated dictator is right in line with the media's tendency to focus on anything that will sell a story...

It's the type of propoganda people use when they have no counterpoint; no argument. Of course there's more to this election than this type of stuff — much more — but the people who now fail to acknowledge the way the "liberal media" ignores Palin's incompetence are the same people who bitch constantly about the media being biased towards the Ds.

Can you say "flip-flop?"

I still haven't decided who I may vote for just yet, but I'll tell you now, if it comes down to a "lesser of two evils" thing for me, McCain/Palin isn't even close to picking up my default vote.

r:>)

[lonewolf]

What amuses me the most is that the comparison that is going on is between the presidential candidate of one party and the VP candidate of the other. That's spreading it a bit thin.

As far as debate, experience is both relative and relevant.

For an executive position, 6 years as a mayor of a small town trumps 8 years as a state Senator. Except for learning the legislative process, there is very little in the background of a state Senator that prepares them for an executive position.

Also, for the same reasons mentioned above, 20 months as a Governor of a state trumps 4 years as a US Senator--unless of course, that Senator manages to Chair a committee--sorry--didn't happen.

I am a Constitutionalist and from what I have seen, there is very little difference between a modern era Constitutional Law Professor and a weather lady. The pay, benefits and hours at work are about the same--the only difference is that one screws up the weather report and the other screws up the Constitution.

[bassist_25]

there is very little difference between a modern era Constitutional Law Professor and a weather lady. The pay, benefits and hours at work are about the same--the only difference is that one screws up the weather report and the other screws up the Constitution.

Someone quote that and put that in their sig (if it can fit). That's some funny shizzle right there.

[songsmith]

Gee, lonewolf, who's spreading it thin now?
Small-town mayoral experience trumps State Senate? Really? Really? I wouldn't reach too much further, you'll fall off the platform. Everything I've read said that Wasilla AK has about 5000 people. Huntingdon PA had about 6918 people in the 2000 census. So the mayor of Huntingdon could rule the free world? C'mon! If she was mayor of, say, Baltimore (pop. 650,000 , same as Alaska), maybe I'd be more convinced.
Incidentally, Sarah Palin is the ONLY reason the hard right is voting AT ALL. They're not supporting McCain, who isn't hard-right enough, apparently. They're voting for the biggest celebrity in their world, Sarah Palin.
The main issue Republicans used early in the race was Obama's inexperience. Suddenly, their Great Whitewashed Hope arrived on scene, and experience was no longer an issue, and if it was, Gov. Palin's experience was "more betterer." Not buying it.
Some of that other stuff, I don't care about, like the First Dude's DUI charges 12 years ago, who cares? I do, however, care about Palin's religious extremism. "End Of Days" religiosity is a scary thing... it's the exact same religious mindset as "Jihad." Yeah, Islam isn't the only religion that has radical extremists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97NFNXk8aFc

Ahhh, anyway, the Palin "bump" appears to be over... the numbers are going back down in the polls, and she still hasn't really done anything meaty or noteworthy. I think she's going to get fed to the dogs on Thursday... Biden, while completely uncharming as well, is well-suited for the rigors of partisan politics. He has 30 years in the Senate... how long is that in Alaska mayoral experience? --->JMS

[lonewolf]

Gee, lonewolf, who's spreading it thin now?
Small-town mayoral experience trumps State Senate? Really? Really? --->JMS

For an executive position, yes, really, really, really. Michael Phelps is a stellar athlete, but I seriously doubt if the Pirates are going to draft him any time soon. Granted, Mayor of Wasilla is the single A minors, but at least its the right sport.

What does a state Senator do that prepares them for an executive position? I can't think of anything. Not a single solitary thing.

Most importantly, the buck never stops at a Senator's desk.

It isn't so much that Palin's experience is all that great...its that Obama's experience really, really, really sucks big time....

[Hawk]

Gee, lonewolf, who's spreading it thin now?
Small-town mayoral experience trumps State Senate? Really? Really? --->JMS

For an executive position, yes, really, really, really. Michael Phelps is a stellar athlete, but I seriously doubt if the Pirates are going to draft him any time soon. Granted, Mayor of Wasilla is the single A minors, but at least its the right sport.

What does a state Senator do that prepares them for an executive position? I can't think of anything. Not a single solitary thing.

Most importantly, the buck never stops at a Senator's desk.

It isn't so much that Palin's experience is all that great...its that Obama's experience really, really, really sucks big time....

I curious what pool we should draw our candidates from ? Only Mayors and Governors are qualified ?

[Naga]

I think someone is going to have a heart attack soon, reading that I'm saying something in a political thread worth spewing, but here goes...

I think what Hawk, and most others mind you, are looking at with term in the senate vs. term as a mayor is this...

The mayor of the town may learn how to balance things from the top of the mound. In the case of a 5000 person mound,... Well, that's not a very big one. It's executive experience, yes... But it's also not big politically

Now on the other hand, the experience in the senate may not be a "leader's" experience, if you wanna look at it like that. However, the thing they're looking at is less what he's "led" and more what he can learn. In a position like that, you are in and around a vast majority of other people who have to take into effect the views of the people they still represent (wait, what kinda bullshit is that? I'm talking about the SENATE here, right? When did they last do that?). That may not be the same as a leader. However, it's more along the lines of the major experience in and around politics that we're looking at. It's knowing a lot of the terms, the processes, the general trade of politics. A lot of things you'd learn there, you WILL use as the president

Think of it like this... A 1st grade science teacher may make the jump to chemistry some day... As would a 12th grade mathematician. Math is, afterall, a huge part of science once you get past the lower parts of it

I now return you to my regularly scheduled insanity

[DirtySanchez]

Gee, lonewolf, who's spreading it thin now?
Small-town mayoral experience trumps State Senate? Really? Really? --->JMS

For an executive position, yes, really, really, really. Michael Phelps is a stellar athlete, but I seriously doubt if the Pirates are going to draft him any time soon. Granted, Mayor of Wasilla is the single A minors, but at least its the right sport.

What does a state Senator do that prepares them for an executive position? I can't think of anything. Not a single solitary thing.

Most importantly, the buck never stops at a Senator's desk.

It isn't so much that Palin's experience is all that great...its that Obama's experience really, really, really sucks big time....

I curious what pool we should draw our candidates from ? Only Mayors and Governors are qualified ?

He's just saying that a mayor/Gov. has more EXECUTIVE experience, because a senatore has NONE.

Plus I agree. Why are we comparing the Dem. Presidential hopeful with the Republican VICE hopeful?

[songsmith]

Plus I agree. Why are we comparing the Dem. Presidential hopeful with the Republican VICE hopeful?

Because McCain would dead in the water right now, if not for Ms. Palin. Nobody's really voting for her for Veep, they're essentially voting for the ticket. Heck, I thought they were gonna vote her Pope there for a minute. (Just a joke, for all you Catholics out there. The Pentecostal denomination generally views Catholicism as a cult that worships graven images. No kidding. They actually said that at my church.)----->JMS

[lonewolf]

I curious what pool we should draw our candidates from ? Only Mayors and Governors are qualified ?

Not so much mayors, but Governors, yes. Look at history. Only three sitting Senators have ever been elected President. The other 12 former Senators all had credentials such as Governor, Vice President, Secretary of State, military General, or significant private industry positions.

By the same token, 4 of the past 5 Presidents we've had were Governors--2 from each party.

History has shown that the American people as a whole know there is a huge difference between a legislator and an executive.

That's why this election (IMO) really, really sucks...we have 3 legislators and a 20 month Governor. Awful slim pickins...

[songsmith]

Eh, we've done worse. Remember the last election? --->JMS

[Charltor]

The Pentecostal denomination generally views Catholicism as a cult that worships graven images. No kidding. They actually said that at my church.)----->JMS

So true, same at my Pentecostal Church. Catholics are burning in Hell right now too, even The Popes that have passed on.
Johnny, They ever get that big bag of different snakes out and throw them down the aisle between the pughs and have you walk over them testing your faith?
Scary mind warping shit for a youngster in church.
No wonder we're whacked today, same goes for Miss Eye Candy Palin.

[songsmith]

Believe it or not, it was talked about, and they felt the backlash would close the church, so it didn't happen. The Assembly of God eventually was the cause of the church closing... you have to pay a large fee to the main church office in Springfield MO, and our little church couldn't keep up the payments.
I drove past the place last Sunday afternoon... it still gives me the heebie-jeebies to think of the creepy sh*t that went on there.----->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

Just a joke, for all you Catholics out there. The Pentecostal denomination generally views Catholicism as a cult that worships graven images. No kidding. They actually said that at my church.----->JMS

Some one quote this. This some funny stuff here lol ..

I agree that people who vote for McCain will be voting because of Palin. heck I want to vote for her just because she looks good. But I am not going to vote for McCain.

[lonewolf]

there is very little difference between a modern era Constitutional Law Professor and a weather lady. The pay, benefits and hours at work are about the same--the only difference is that one screws up the weather report and the other screws up the Constitution.

Someone quote that and put that in their sig (if it can fit). That's some funny shizzle right there.

[Banned]

What a difference from 9 years ago. Here is a clip from John Stewart's show, where he and Bill Maher say they are for McCain, even over Al Gore or Bill Bradley, the Democrats running then.

http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/09/ ... /#comments

[RamRod 1]

Paul, That was Great!

Don't miss the "Debate" Thursday night.

[Hawk]

I know Dan Quail, and she's no Dan Quail !

[songsmith]

I know Dan Quail, and she's no Dan Quail !

"I knew Jack Kennedy, you're no Jack Kennedy." (paraphrased)
Man, that's still the biggest political diss in American history. You can't plan for stuff like that. Bentsen sealed his place in history with those words, it was like he clicked out a switchblade and drove it deep. Quayle had often been ridiculed as shallow and dim, and that barb pretty much ended his career.
That moment was voted one of the top moments in televised history, right up there with the second plane hitting the Towers, and the Challenger disaster. Loved it, it was the cattiest moment ever. The only career-ender that comes close was Howard Dean's squealing, "Yeaaaaahhhhh!!" You could see in his eyes, he knew the next day's soundbites were going to be him.------->JMS