O'reilley to interview Obama tonight ..

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Thursday Sep 04, 2008

This is just a note to any of you Obama fans and O'reilley haters (or Obama haters and O'reilley likers). He will be interviewing Obama on his show tonight. I am looking forward to seeing this, because I like O'reilley and do not support Obama

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Thursday Sep 04, 2008

What bat-time and what bat-channel?

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Thursday Sep 04, 2008

8:00 on the O'reilley factor: On Fox News ...

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Thursday Sep 04, 2008

Yeah, I don't watch TV much.. Thanks for the info!

Bloodsong · Post by **Bloodsong** » Thursday Sep 04, 2008

why the hell would they do it on the same day as the NFL season opener? i'm not sure who's more pompous at this point between Bill-O or Obama ...

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thursday Sep 04, 2008

Bloodsong wrote:why the hell would they do it on the same day as the NFL season opener? i'm not sure who's more pompous at this point between Bill-O or Obama ...

Obama did his acceptance speech during the NCAA's 1st big night--there were lots of games in key swing states. I guess he doesn't pay much attention to football.

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Thursday Sep 04, 2008

I think he did pretty good. So far...

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

Ya know. That was a cut and dry part one. Obama flipped on what he said in the past about Iraq and the troop surge. He is sounding more like Kerry everyday. Contradicting everything he says or said ..

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

What can you do? Last week premarital sex was immoral, and teen pregnancy was a failure of the family unit. Remember the uproar over the teen pregnancy pact at that high-school a month ago? (Proven to be the work of a principal who wanted to be on the news... FALSE) Remember Jamie Lynn Spears?
If there's one bit of history Sarah Palin's made, it's to turn the conservative notion of abstinence, family values, and moral obligation by 180 degrees. Babies ain't no big thang, now!
Flip.
Flop.
-------------->JMS

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

People really need to realize that these people all belong to the same country clubs and they all lie as well as the other. When it comes to the American political machine, "flip-flop" is not just a foot fashion statement, it's a way of life.

I really don't think I'm voting for either of these guys, honestly. I'm impressed with Palin, but 30 seconds into McCain's speech last night, I was scared shitless:

"I'm grateful to the president of the United States for leading us in these dark days following the worst attack in American history — the worst attack on American soil in our history and keeping us safe from another attack that many thought was inevitable."

Is it really smart to openly align yourself with W in this election? I can't imagine it is. It's not where my vote's concerned.

With Obama, there's too much of an "unknown factor" for me at this point — not to mention his lack of experience, which has always been a problem with me — to cast a vote in good faith. And speaking of voting, Obama's lack of voting record in the Senate just rubs me the wrong way. "Present?" Make a call, dude. Ugh.

r:>)

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

I agree with you, Rob. I am still undecided as to who I will vote for as well. I guess we call this a campaign of flip-flops ..

That is the point I was getting at with Obama. He can't even make a vote for what he wants, let alone run the country. As for military might, I think McCain is the one. I admire that him and Palin both have/had sons who served in Iraq. For that they can walk the walk and not just talk the talk, as it seems that Obama is doing.

I really liked the parts about other energy sources. The only question I have is, are we going to enact it or talk it ? I am tired of all this foreign dependency bs, it is time to fend for ourselves and provide for ourselves ..

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

www.VoteSmart.org

Anybody undecided should really read up on both candidates' voting records. Campaign promises are one thing, actions are quite another.

r:>)

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

You know, if no one was allowed to change their minds the world would still be flat...

But if someone didn't change their minds, you be calling them stagnant or saying it's still the same old bs.

With people looking to capitalize on any mistake, there is no right answer except what said people want exactly how they want it.

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

f.sciarrillo wrote:I agree with you, Rob. I am still undecided as to who I will vote for as well. I guess we call this a campaign of flip-flops ..

Frankly I don't believe you... If you follow o'rielley as "fair and balanced", you vote republican. They don't let you think any other way..

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

JackANSI wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:I agree with you, Rob. I am still undecided as to who I will vote for as well. I guess we call this a campaign of flip-flops ..
Frankly I don't believe you... If you follow o'rielley as "fair and balanced", you vote republican. They don't let you think any other way..

Pun intended?!? LOL

r:>)

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

BadDazeRob wrote:
JackANSI wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:I agree with you, Rob. I am still undecided as to who I will vote for as well. I guess we call this a campaign of flip-flops ..
Frankly I don't believe you... If you follow o'rielley as "fair and balanced", you vote republican. They don't let you think any other way..
Pun intended?!? LOL

r:>)

?? I missed it, you'll need to explain this one

I might watch 4 or 5 hours of TV a month... Only reason I pay the bill is so that when someone visits I don't look as "weird".

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

f.sciarrillo's first name is Frank.

r:>)

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

JackANSI wrote:I might watch 4 or 5 hours of TV a month... Only reason I pay the bill is so that when someone visits I don't look as "weird".

You should watch more South Park.

r:>)

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

songsmith wrote:What can you do? Last week premarital sex was immoral, and teen pregnancy was a failure of the family unit. Remember the uproar over the teen pregnancy pact at that high-school a month ago? (Proven to be the work of a principal who wanted to be on the news... FALSE) Remember Jamie Lynn Spears?
If there's one bit of history Sarah Palin's made, it's to turn the conservative notion of abstinence, family values, and moral obligation by 180 degrees. Babies ain't no big thang, now!
Flip.
Flop.
-------------->JMS

I have not seen anywhere officially that indicates that Palin has done a flip flop on her views on sex education and the level it should be taught in the public school system. Also, I'm not understanding how it should be assumed that this point of view should not be considered wrong because another teen ager has become pregnant.

When I was in school....oh, too many years ago...our level of sex education was to talk about the changing bodies, the fact that you can get diseases from sex, and of course, you could get pregnant. We did discuss that there were different types of protection against all of those things but that the best prevention was not to do it. What Sarah Palin has said was this....

"In an Eagle Forum Alaska questionnaire , Palin gave this response to the following question: "Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?" Palin: "Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support."

I don't want people coming into my child's school system giving away condoms and showing them how to use them. It just doesn't belong there. Will they learn it on the streets? Yes, probably. But I hope that by communicating ourselves, and teaching morals in our home, our child will seek the proper knowledge that he needs to make the right decisions in life.

So with that said, I agree with Palin. And I do not see a flip flop going on with her views on this.

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

Lisa wrote:
I don't want people coming into my child's school system giving away condoms and showing them how to use them. It just doesn't belong there. Will they learn it on the streets? Yes, probably. But I hope that by communicating ourselves, and teaching morals in our home, our child will seek the proper knowledge that he needs to make the right decisions in life.

So with that said, I agree with Palin. And I do not see a flip flop going on with her views on this.

I think the point trying to be made by Rob is that if that form of home sex-education worked, then she wouldn't be becoming grandma soon.

Yes I know thats not completely accurate as an assumption... but man is that a funny twist to this election...

The problem is with these kids these days... GET OFF MY LAWN!!

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

Lisa wrote: I agree with Palin. And I do not see a flip flop going on with her views on this.

The flip-flop (and I love that this is a Neocon term coined during the last election, and is now being used against them) is not on the part of Sarah Palin. The flip-flop is the appearance that, the very people who insist that teen pregnancy is a symptom of liberal morals and loose parenting are now singing a completely different tune. Gov. Palin isn't flip-flopping, she's just ignoring the conservative notion that good kids with strong parents don't get knocked up, and good for her. The flip-flop is by the so-called conservatives who support her. A week ago teen pregnancy signaled poor parenting and liberal morals. Now it doesn't.
Oddly, hypocrisy has swung America just a bit more to the center. That's cool as hell. It happened with the Larry Craig scandal, too. People had to admit that all men are pigs, even the uber-conservative gay ones.

---.JMS

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

JackANSI wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:I agree with you, Rob. I am still undecided as to who I will vote for as well. I guess we call this a campaign of flip-flops ..
Frankly I don't believe you... If you follow o'rielley as "fair and balanced", you vote republican. They don't let you think any other way..

I guess in some ways I could be a republican. But in all fairness, I am registered Conservative libertarian ... There are things on both sides that I agree with and there are things on both sides that I do not agree with - I am in middle on a few of them. I vote for who I think will do the job better.

I mainly watch O'reilley because when he reports a story you know it's not some made up thing. He researches and backs everything he puts on the air up.

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

f.sciarrillo wrote:I mainly watch O'reilley because when he reports a story you know it's not some made up thing. He researches and backs everything he puts on the air up.

I'll just pretend I didn't hear that

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

f.sciarrillo wrote:... There are things on both sides that I agree with and there are things on both sides that I do not agree with - I am in middle on a few of them. I vote for who I think will do the job better.

I think that's the smartest thing I've read on here in awhile. Way to bring it home.----->JMS

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Friday Sep 05, 2008

songsmith wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:... There are things on both sides that I agree with and there are things on both sides that I do not agree with - I am in middle on a few of them. I vote for who I think will do the job better.

I think that's the smartest thing I've read on here in awhile. Way to bring it home.----->JMS

Yeah, It just sucks he followed it up with that O'reilly comment.
Talk about set'em up and knock'em down.