guitar advice

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Tuesday Oct 10, 2006

hey everyone...soon ...well...eventually ill be getting a new guitar.
i have had bc rich, jackson, ibanez and charvel. i want to try something new. i found a guitar that really caught my eye on several levels. i wanted to see what the gear heads and guitar players think about it. let me know.
THANKS!

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i- ... d-239.html

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

I'm not a guitar player. But I've always been impressed with schector basses, and have had friends like their guitars.

Personally I've got a fetish for fenders, but I'm pretty sure thats not up your alley...

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

Schecters are some of the nicest import guitars out there. You're not going to find a set-neck guitar with as nice of finishes/tops at that particular price-point.

Though as you find with guitars that are at the high-mid level quality point, the bottleneck is the pickups. old sKool has two Diamond Series C1s which he uses for drop tunings. He ended up dropping a set of Duncans in one of them, and none of us realized how muddy the stock pickups were until he upgraded. His appregios now are very distinct, and his leads cut through more. The Duncans are more Les Paul sounding and have just the right amount of gain to get a dirty sound that still retains its distinctness. So I definitely say go for the Schecter. If you don't like the EMGs (which should be fine, EMGs are very respected pickups), you can always drop another set of pickups in.

paul · Post by **paul** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

It comes down to you get what you pay for. Schecter makes a decent guitar for the money but they skimp on some things like hardware, electronics and paint, don't get me wrong the look pretty but any of the flame tops or fancy tops are a super thin veneer or a laminated photo of a flame top (alot of companies are doing that now since Fender came out with the photo flames years ago) and not solid quarter inch caps like the more expensive guitars have. Also any of their graphic paintjobs are not paintjobs but a printed out laminated picture which is then clearcoated, and they are not airbrused at all. But they are not going to tell you any of that. You can even see the dot patten from the cheap resolution printers that they use. This is how they keep the cost down. But their higher end stuff is a lot better. But like I said you get what you pay for, Ibanez, Jackson, Charvel and Fender also make cheap junk (or affordable depending on which side of the fence you are on) and then nicer quality high end guitars it just comes down to how much you are willing or able to spend.
Paul

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

well, i dont wanna go with the brands ive used before. its metal that i mainly play. i cannot spend a shitload of $$ , nor would i.
i have played high end guitars like gibson les pauls and didnt like it @ all. in fact, the les paul is prob the worst guitar ive ever played.

so far, i think the one i found is it. ive had emg pickups before in a jackon V i used to have. i liked them alot.

i dont want something that looks JUST metal, because there are some other musical things in the works.

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

I think the schecter would do what you need it to do.

Out of curiosity have you ever tried one of the Peavey EVH guitars? They are supposed to be pretty nice, and are in a similar price range.

paul · Post by **paul** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

The Peavey EVH Wolfgangs are much better than the Schecters but also alot more money. You can get a cheaper used Wolfgang special which is a flat top, no binding and solid color paint for in the $600 to $700 range. But the nice deluxes which are bound and arch tops with a nice flame or quilted maple caps are quite a bit more. They will sell for $1200 and up. And mind you these are used prices as they haven't made them since Eddie hooked back up with Charvel to make the new EVH seris guitars which are way way over priced as I heard Eddie is getting a 70% 30% split with Charvel and that is why they are trying to get $2300 for them and they are sitting because realistically they are not worth half of that. Just buy something that feels good in your hands and has a nice neck because everything else can be changed. So it doesnt matter if it is a $400 or a $4000 guitar it just matters the way it feels in your hands and plays.
Paul

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

no, i havent tried that brand.

also, graphic paintjob.....photo or not, i dont care. i think the design looks cool, and thats all i need to know.

stuff like that doesnt bother me @ all. i wasnt even worried about having a floyd rose (or FR knock off). it has one, so thats cool i guess. i guess ill start using the bar. im not too hard to please with guitars. ive played on beat up guitars, and really cool ones.
I just find one my eye likes and then i go down the line with what it has.

i guess its good that i havent heard "man, this guitar sucks ass".

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

Also, don't discount the used market. Anytime I am in the market for a big ticket item, I first search the used market.

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Wednesday Oct 11, 2006

good idea, but i dont think id want to buy a used guitar. i have before and had bad luck. ...wait a minute...even the with new guitars ended up bad. im just bad luck i think! i certainly want to buy new though. unless something REALLY caught my eye that was used.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006

I think the low-end Schecters are the best current value in electric guitars. I see guitars as tools. A carpenter needs a good hammer, but it doesn't need to be laser-guided, nor does it need a Chromalume paint package. I agree the Schecter p-ups aren't world-crushing, but they're similar to other guitars in the price point. However, you get carved tops, set necks, string-thru, and Schecter makes some damn pretty guitars.---------->JMS

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006

SpellboundByMetal wrote:i wasnt even worried about having a floyd rose (or FR knock off). it has one, so thats cool i guess. i guess ill start using the bar.

Actually, the Floyd Rose should be a major factor in whether you want that guitar or not. If you plan to use the bar, be prepared to revamp your palm muting technique a lot. You also have the extra maintenance, and not being able to change tunings on the fly. If you don't plan to use the bar, get a fixed bridge one instead and save some bling.

Post by **Ron** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006

Jimi Hatt wrote:
SpellboundByMetal wrote:i wasnt even worried about having a floyd rose (or FR knock off). it has one, so thats cool i guess. i guess ill start using the bar.
Actually, the Floyd Rose should be a major factor in whether you want that guitar or not. If you plan to use the bar, be prepared to revamp your palm muting technique a lot. You also have the extra maintenance, and not being able to change tunings on the fly. If you don't plan to use the bar, get a fixed bridge one instead and save some bling.

Great advice Jimi. Spellbound, if you do any bends while there are open strings ringing, which is common in a lot of metal, the tuning on the open strings goes out when you bend the other strings. If you're happy using a fixed bridge now and don't use a bar, you are probably going to hate a guitar with a whammy.

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006

Ron wrote:If you're happy using a fixed bridge now and don't use a bar, you are probably going to hate a guitar with a whammy.

Contestants on Press Your Luck hate those, too ...

r:>)

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Friday Oct 13, 2006

I'll come to all your shows if you are playing this:

brokenstrings · Post by **brokenstrings** » Saturday Oct 14, 2006

I think this guitar might be up your alley.

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Saturday Oct 14, 2006

hmmm...thanks guys.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Saturday Oct 14, 2006

Ever think about an ESP Ltd Series guitar? All your fav guitarists prob use active pickups and the ESP 400 series comes standard with EMG 81's in the bridge, plus set neck construction, and grover tuners...

something to consider

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Sunday Oct 15, 2006

the guitar i posted also has emg's. i have used them before and like them.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Oct 15, 2006

oddly enough I prefer passive pickups...

at least for the time being

SpellboundByMetal · Post by **SpellboundByMetal** » Sunday Oct 15, 2006

i figured that you did when you said "all your fav guitarists prob use active pickups.."

i knew what you were saying.

ChaosRisingRice · Post by **ChaosRisingRice** » Sunday Oct 15, 2006

brokenstrings wrote:I think this guitar might be up your alley.

Wow if you had a guitar shaped like that you would play on it everynight

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Thursday Oct 19, 2006

brokenstrings wrote:I think this guitar might be up your alley.

I'm guessing you play this guitar one-handed ...

That's gay.

r:>)