THE POLITICAL ARENA!!! Political Gladiators Inside!!

[f.sciarrillo]

Obama addresses gas prices, pitches energy policy

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/ ... rgy-policy

"White House officials point to increased oil production and decreased consumption as evidence that Obama's policies are working and will lead to greater energy independence in the long run. But they assert there is little Obama — or any president — can do to change the trajectory of prices now"

[lonewolf]

The national debt would balloon under tax policies championed by three of the four major Republican candidates for president, according to an independent analysis of tax and spending proposals so far offered by the campaigns.

The lone exception is Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who would pair a big reduction in tax rates with even bigger cuts in government services, slicing about $2 trillion from future borrowing.

What did you expect?

They are politicians trying to get elected. They aren't going to tell the American people that they have to cut federal spending 10% to even begin to balance the budget. Every constituency wants something and nobody is willing to give anything up.

Its just as much about the entitlement mentality as it is about politics and we are just as bad as Greece when it comes to that.

[Banned]

What is it about Ron Paul that scares Chris Matthews so much?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 1rLxqgPc9w

[Banned]

The two largest groups of donors to Obomunism are Lawyers and Bankers:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/bundl ... =N00009638


Yeah, those democrats really represent the little guy.

[f.sciarrillo]

Obama campaign blames the Koch brothers for high gas prices.

http://biggovernment.com/bshapiro/2012/ ... ernment%29

[songsmith]

Wait... aren't all rich people job creators who deserve everything they "earn?" Don't we just automatically drop to oour knees when someone like that walks into a room?
As a good conservative, you should be HAPPY that Big Bad Obama is beholden to the same people you want running America.
Pick a side. You're either for elite control of govt, or not. Maybe you just want everybody to run everything past you before doing anything.
You know, that entitlement to authority you think you have.

[Merge]

I asked about abortion because I have some friends that are Democrats that believe in a woman's right to choose, yet are against the death penalty. I find that very hypocritical. To them, the killing of an unborn child is ok, but the execution of a convicted killer is just wrong.

[Banned]

I asked about abortion because I have some friends that are Democrats that believe in a woman's right to choose, yet are against the death penalty. I find that very hypocritical. To them, the killing of an unborn child is ok, but the execution of a convicted killer is just wrong.

There have been books written about the insanity of liberals.

[Hawk]

I asked about abortion because I have some friends that are Democrats that believe in a woman's right to choose, yet are against the death penalty. I find that very hypocritical. To them, the killing of an unborn child is ok, but the execution of a convicted killer is just wrong.

So when are you going to ask for the death penalty for the real killer, the mother who hired someone to kill their unborn child ? The hit man usually gets a lesser charge.

Were you trying to ferret out said hypocrisy that you perceived ? You left no comment on my response to your post.

So tells us. Should the Federal Government create an anti abortion law and why should they ?

Do you recognise the hypocrisy of killing via the death penalty ? Nearly everyone on death row often claims to have (in some way) God in their life and has asked for forgiveness. Who are WE to judge their conviction ? All we need is to protect society from them, we do not need to kill them. What's your opinion ?

[lonewolf]

Wait... aren't all rich people job creators who deserve everything they "earn?" Don't we just automatically drop to oour knees when someone like that walks into a room?
As a good conservative, you should be HAPPY that Big Bad Obama is beholden to the same people you want running America.
Pick a side. You're either for elite control of govt, or not. Maybe you just want everybody to run everything past you before doing anything.
You know, that entitlement to authority you think you have.

Yeah. I got your jobs right here.

{obscene grabbing gesture}

[lonewolf]

I asked about abortion because I have some friends that are Democrats that believe in a woman's right to choose, yet are against the death penalty. I find that very hypocritical. To them, the killing of an unborn child is ok, but the execution of a convicted killer is just wrong.

So tells us. Should the Federal Government create an anti abortion law and why should they ?

No. Absent any power granted to the federal government by the Constitution, the 10th Amendment grants that power to the states or to the people.

Except for crimes involving treason, national security, federal officials or property, and interstate actions, the federal government has no business making ordinary crimes codes. That is the purview of the state and local government.

Taking that a step further, I believe that any state has the right to pass laws prohibiting persons from performing abortions under whatever circumstances they deem fit. Such a law does not infringe upon a woman's right to choose.

This does not mean that I personally would or would not vote for such a law if it was brought to a state referendum.

[Merge]

I asked about abortion because I have some friends that are Democrats that believe in a woman's right to choose, yet are against the death penalty. I find that very hypocritical. To them, the killing of an unborn child is ok, but the execution of a convicted killer is just wrong.

So when are you going to ask for the death penalty for the real killer, the mother who hired someone to kill their unborn child ? The hit man usually gets a lesser charge.

Were you trying to ferret out said hypocrisy that you perceived ? You left no comment on my response to your post.

So tells us. Should the Federal Government create an anti abortion law and why should they ?

Do you recognise the hypocrisy of killing via the death penalty ? Nearly everyone on death row often claims to have (in some way) God in their life and has asked for forgiveness. Who are WE to judge their conviction ? All we need is to protect society from them, we do not need to kill them. What's your opinion ?

I was asking for opnions, not for a pissing match. I don't have to respond to anything on here, and I didn't single anyone on here out. My opinion: abortion and the death penalty are legal until the courts say otherwise. I believe abortion has it's place, and shouldn't be used as a form of birth control. I also believe in the death penalty. If they were judged to be guilty and sentenced by a jury, and every avenue to prove innocence has been exhausted, I believe at that point the sentence should be carried out. Those are just my opinions, and I'm sure some will agree and some will disagree. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, please don't attempt to change mine.

[lonewolf]

Do you recognise the hypocrisy of killing via the death penalty ? Nearly everyone on death row often claims to have (in some way) God in their life and has asked for forgiveness. Who are WE to judge their conviction ? All we need is to protect society from them, we do not need to kill them. What's your opinion ?

Since everybody has a right to a fair and speedy trial, wouldn't it be prudent to send them on to God for final disposition?

[f.sciarrillo]

To be a good liberal you have to believe that the death penalty is wrong, but agree with abortions on demand.

HOW TO BE A GOOD LIBERAL
In order to be a good liberal you have to believe...


that there were no charities before welfare,

that there was no art before federal funding,

that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high,

that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding,

that taxing the use of gasoline or other energy will reduce the use of gasoline or other energy, but taxing work and investment will not reduce work and investment,

that the right to the pursuit of happiness is morally repugnant because it is selfish,

that bigotry and prejudice are evil unless they're against selfish bastards, in which case they're good,

that honest hard-working people who want to spend their money on their own damn families and businesses must be lumped-in with criminals so we can feel self-righteous about despising them as if they were the exact same kind of selfish bastards as criminals,

that private property rights are also morally repugnant because they too are based on selfishness,

that the best ideas are more government intervention in the economy, more aggressive confiscation of private property, more government funding of socially destructive behavior, and a foreign policy subordinated to world opinion,

that a man's home is his castle only until the city condemns it so a politician's developer-crony can build a high tax-paying shopping mall there (which would be for "the public good"),

that freedom of speech and of the press does NOT apply to TV, radio, cell phones, PDAs or the internet, all of which must be government- regulated to enforce OUR ideas -- oops, I mean our ideas of "access" and "fairness",

that whenever there is a question about the purposes and motivations of the United States, one must assume -- no, make that believe -- the worst,

that the United States must not make the decision to defend itself by itself; it must first get permission from the U.N.,

that the terrorist cells busted in Lackawanna, New York City, Miami, Chicago and London weren't a real threat, but a nondenominational prayer before a high school football game is,

that the only people worthy of being a leader, especially president, are those who display our definition of intelligence, which is: showing signs of being an analytical, reflective, self-doubting, slow-acting intellectual who accepts, and adheres religiously to, modern liberal doctrines, including the following:

that all generalizations are false,

that there are absolutely no absolutes,

that you can be sure that nothing is certain,

that it's really bad, even evil, to make or pronounce moral judgments,

that all cultures are equal, but ours stinks; that all truth is relative, except the unquestionable truth of "post-modernism", that no race, class or gender is superior, but middle class white males are clearly inferior, that no books are superior, except, of course, those by third-world authors,

that it's good to support minority, homosexual and women's rights and simultaneously make common cause with Islamofacists, who would attack all of them,

that identifying individuals by their uniqueness is "racist," but identifying them only as a member of a race is not,

that those who oppose liberalism, nomatter how thoughtful or scholarly, can be dismissed out of hand simply by calling them "racist, sexist, fascist homophobes," because, after all, they have to be such, don't they?

that the independent broadcasters who give us 500+ TV channels can't deliver the quality that PBS does,

that good economies are caused by politicians and not by entrepreneurs,

that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity,

that farmers, ranchers, hunters and fishermen don't care about nature and the long-term survival of species, but "animal rights" activists who've never been outside the city do,

that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate and in the cycles of the sun, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs,

that people who drive cars are bad, but people who ride buses or trains are good,

that people who live in single-family homes (or want to) are bad, but people who live in high-density apartments (or admit they ought to) are good,

that the thinning of forests by lumber companies and forestry workers "destroys habitat," while burning them down in their entirety by allowing unhindered forest fires makes animals "thrive,"

that American corporations' drilling for oil in "environmentally sensitive" areas is bad, but paying billions of dollars to moslem countries for their oil is better,

that the entire earth is an "environmentally sensitive" area, so no development, drilling, or building of any kind is justifiable ANYwhere,

that limiting the supply of fur-bearing animal pelts will make their costs go up, but limiting the sources of gasoline and other petroleum products will not make their costs go up,

that Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, George Washington Carver or Thomas Edison,

that any person or any country which has a higher standard of living than any other must have achieved it as a matter of luck, not freedom, opportunity, foresight and work -- and must feel guilty about it -- but if they're not, they must be forced to "pay" for their good fortune in a manner which we (who feel guilty for them anyway) will decide is best,

that there is only one moral code, and it is the pure altruism of the self-sacrifice: first-foremost-only-and-always kind,

that the only people who should decide which sacrifices anyone must make are the ones in government and/or their sycophants in academe or the media,

that the correct view of the state is one that sees citizens as children who need nurturing, and bureaucrats and politicians as the only adults who can do the nurturing,

that private citizens should not be allowed to choose their doctors, their childrens' schools, where they live, what foods they eat, where and if they smoke, and when they speak or write: which "politically correct" words they may use and which "incorrect" ones they may not -- without your help,

that there is no such thing as a "sovereign citizen." In fact, there is no such thing as "inalienable rights," only permissions from government,

that everything not forbidden should be mandatory, and everything not mandatory should be forbidden,

that trial lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid,

that Robin Hood should be remembered for "robbing the rich to give to the poor" (because that was "good"), even though it wasn't his motive, and not for "taking back from the taxors and giving back to the taxees" (because that's always bad), even though it was,

that recessions and depressions are caused by businessmen, and not by politicians and bureaucrats,

that it would be vastly preferably to risk destroying the economy of the United States even in wartime than to allow drilling in areas which might risk the well-being of wildlife,

that FDR must be remembered for "ending the great depression," even though he didn't (in fact he made it worse), and for giving half the people "hope," even though he decimated the Constitution and gave the other half despair,

that the explosions in medical and prescription drug costs since 1965 have been caused by greedy doctors and drug companies and not by medicare, HMO subsidies and labyrinthine government regulations,

that you can acquire self-esteem without actually doing something to earn it or living up to a code of ethics,

that public schools must be given ever-more money and protection from competition, no matter how poorly they perform,

that intolerance may be horrible, but "zero tolerance" is wonderful,

that social changes must be made by classroom propaganda and coercion, not by persuasion, and certainly NOT by example,

that it is racist to be color-blind and that good policy is to be color conscious -- in fact to identify people ONLY as a member of a group,

that all cultures are precious, must be preserved at all costs, and must all be treated as equal, not because of their outcomes, but because we say so,

that the new ideal paradigm to be established is "multi-cultural diversity", which means making sure every organization has at least one black liberal, one militant-feminist liberal, one gay liberal, one Latino liberal, one transgender liberal, one Native American liberal, and so forth. The one kind of diversity NOT permitted is diversity of philosophy, politics, views or values (especially merit- or accomplishment-consciousness),

that, since hatred is horrible, it's okay to hate haters. And independent people. And SUV-owners. And gun owners. And business people. And the merit-conscious. And other individualists. And any other politically incorrect policy advocates. And whoever else it's chic to hate today. In fact the new definition of "hater" is "anyone who disagrees with us."

that if a private person or organization refuses to sponsor, finance, allow or provide a venue for, a speaker, movie maker or demonstration, then that's "censorship," and that's bad, but if a government or government-run enterprise does it, then that's quelling "hate speech,"and that's good,

that it's shocking -- and worthy of detailed, damning and deliciously horrifying exposés -- to find that free-market scholars are actually able to fund their work with voluntary donations from wealthy individuals and businesses -- while it's pleasing to find that socialist scholars are able to fund their work "virtuously" with tax money (extracted from their opponents -- and victims -- by government coercion),

that CHANGE is good -- but ONLY so long as it is change TO liberal values FROM other values,

that people who resist your vision of social change should be jailed,

that everyone who believes in free markets is a religious conservative (or if we know better, we pretend we don't -- since we don't want the general public to know about libertarians),

that everyone who believes in civil liberties is a big-government liberal (or if we know better, we still don't want the general public to know about libertarians),

that the ancient left-right political spectrum must be defended as the only yardstick for evaluating ideologies because (unlike the Nolan Chart, for example) the old left-right one conveniently implies that "the democratic ideal" is nothing more than a compromise between socialism and fascism, and so the ONLY question is "WHAT KIND of huge, powerful, all-pervasive government do you want?",

that black people can't succeed without your help, but those who do, or tell others they can, must be vilified as "Uncle Toms,"

that the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution,

that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists,

that more people are killed by guns than are saved by gun owners simply brandishing their weapons,

that even though there are 54,000,000 children under 16 in the U.S., and you can never achieve "zero" accidental deaths from drowning, choking, fires, falls, poisoning, motor vehicles and medical mistakes, you can somehow achieve zero from firearm accidents (perhaps because there are always so many fewer such accidents every year),

that it's possible to develop a system to identify and locate absolutely all random suicide bombers so they can be stopped before they strike, but it's impossible to develop a system to identify, locate and shoot down incoming missiles before they do,

that corporations are more dangerous than governments -- even when they haven't been sold a government-protected monopoly and can't make you buy from them, and even though the federal government is hundreds of times the size of the largest corporations and has guns, jails, IRS kangaroo courts, and can and does make you buy from it or deal with it,

that the quantity of natural resources in all of existence remains finite, and will always run out unless government controls its use and mandates horse-and-buggy "substitutes",

that the quantity of wealth in all of existence remains fixed, and always has from time immemorial, so only people in government should decide how it's allocated,

that any attempt to tax successful entrepreneurs at less than 100% of their incomes must be met with horrified screams of "giveaway! giveaway!! giveaway!!!"

that businessmen are parasites, but politicians and bureaucrats are not,

that people who work in the private sector are evil, but people who work in government are saints,

that a contract can mean anything any time anybody wants it to, especially if it's named "The Constitution of the United States",

that private citizens are too stupid to make their own decisions about anything, but people in government are too smart not to give them dictatorial powers over everything,

that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because "the right people" haven't been in charge,

that the only answer to the millions of problems caused by government -- is always ... ("ta-da!") more government (of course!),

that the only choices Americans are given by the Republicans and Democrats include having to choose between legal abortions and "overkill" security from international terrorists (ignoring the fact that Libertarians support BOTH Constitutional security measures and states' rights to legalize or outlaw abortions),

that contributions to the Democratic Party by the Chinese Communists are in the best interests of the United States,

that both "hard" and "soft"-money contributions to the campaigns of politicans by Americans are not in the best interests of the United States because they are always initiated by the donors as bribes and never by the politicians as a "protection racket,"

that people who get upset about the misuse of the FBI, the military, the BATF and the IRS belong in jail, but that the misusers, liars and Constitution- violators belong in the White House,

that William J. Clinton, as a wonderful president, should not be remembered for any misdeeds at all, but if he is, it should be only for the sexual ones, and not for any of those other things,*

that Hillary Clinton is normal and really a very nice person,

that it would better to see civilization destroyed than to see your cherished beliefs in cultural equivalency and moral ambivalence dismissed,

that you must be a knee-jerk "pass a law!" big-government control-freak in order to get any poor people or any "good" people -- especially the professionally unselfish "saintly" people -- to even like you, let alone to love you,

and last, but definitely not least -- that good intentions are all that are needed to pave the way to utopia, especially if all your friends have the same good intentions.

[Hawk]

I asked about abortion because I have some friends that are Democrats that believe in a woman's right to choose, yet are against the death penalty. I find that very hypocritical. To them, the killing of an unborn child is ok, but the execution of a convicted killer is just wrong.

So when are you going to ask for the death penalty for the real killer, the mother who hired someone to kill their unborn child ? The hit man usually gets a lesser charge.

Were you trying to ferret out said hypocrisy that you perceived ? You left no comment on my response to your post.

So tells us. Should the Federal Government create an anti abortion law and why should they ?

Do you recognise the hypocrisy of killing via the death penalty ? Nearly everyone on death row often claims to have (in some way) God in their life and has asked for forgiveness. Who are WE to judge their conviction ? All we need is to protect society from them, we do not need to kill them. What's your opinion ?

I was asking for opnions, not for a pissing match. I don't have to respond to anything on here, and I didn't single anyone on here out. My opinion: abortion and the death penalty are legal until the courts say otherwise. I believe abortion has it's place, and shouldn't be used as a form of birth control. I also believe in the death penalty. If they were judged to be guilty and sentenced by a jury, and every avenue to prove innocence has been exhausted, I believe at that point the sentence should be carried out. Those are just my opinions, and I'm sure some will agree and some will disagree. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, please don't attempt to change mine.

Okay, I won't piss on your post. But I will point out that you were looking for opinions so that you could call someone a hypocrit, not because you wanted opinions. That became obvious with your second post on the subject. Otherwise you would have started out with your perceived hypocrisy rather than ask for opinions first. In other words, you were looking for someone to piss on...

No one was trying to change your mind. You ask for opinions, I thought it fair that I ask for yours. Apparently you felt attacked because I ask for your opinion ?

You seemed to get a little "pissy" with, "I don't have to respond to anything on here..." The subject is touchy and I'm sorry I ask for your opinion after you asked for others opinions.

Don't take me so seriously... I'm just having fun.

[Merge]

I wasn't looking to call anyone on here a hypocrite, as I said I was asking for opinions. The friends that I was spoke of are people that live in my hometown, and I sometimes discuss politics with them. I come in here and post questions so I can learn from the answers.

[songsmith]

There have been books written about the insanity of liberals.

Right-wingers will buy books about ANYTHING if it validates their whackitude, and tells them THEY'RE the ones who are normal. Lefties don't really do that so much, and moderates see it for the taking-candy-from-babies it is. Cons NEED that validation and repetition, like a drug. Without it, the light of reality starts degrading the bubble they live in.

Besides, if ANYONE on Rockpage knows insanity intimately, it's joe.

[songsmith]

Wait... aren't all rich people job creators who deserve everything they "earn?" Don't we just automatically drop to oour knees when someone like that walks into a room?
As a good conservative, you should be HAPPY that Big Bad Obama is beholden to the same people you want running America.
Pick a side. You're either for elite control of govt, or not. Maybe you just want everybody to run everything past you before doing anything.
You know, that entitlement to authority you think you have.

Yeah. I got your jobs right here.

{obscene grabbing gesture}

If that's a job, this is a career. (equally obscene grabbing gesture)
Nice comeback. You couldn't deny that you want corporate control of govt (after supporting and encouraging it so much), or deny that the right doesn't do it... you just don't want your enemies doing it. Entitlement to authority.

[Banned]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5IYGroW ... ploademail

After the Gibson factory raid by armed Federal agents, there still have not been any charged filed against Gibson.

And liberals are sane?

[lonewolf]

Wait... aren't all rich people job creators who deserve everything they "earn?" Don't we just automatically drop to oour knees when someone like that walks into a room?
As a good conservative, you should be HAPPY that Big Bad Obama is beholden to the same people you want running America.
Pick a side. You're either for elite control of govt, or not. Maybe you just want everybody to run everything past you before doing anything.
You know, that entitlement to authority you think you have.

Yeah. I got your jobs right here.

{obscene grabbing gesture}

If that's a job, this is a career. (equally obscene grabbing gesture)
Nice comeback. You couldn't deny that you want corporate control of govt (after supporting and encouraging it so much), or deny that the right doesn't do it... you just don't want your enemies doing it. Entitlement to authority.

Entitlement to authority and authoritarianism belong to both parties and both extremes of your one-dimensional political spectrum. Your posts are self-evident that you happen to be on the far left side of authoritarianism.

You will not find authoritarianism in my posts, except to the extent that we need to somehow gain back the authority to get rid of authoritarianism.

BTW, your "comeback" had all the witticism of an 8th grader with an inferiority complex.

Not quite a freshman.

[Banned]

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer. ... 125/394051

Another "green" company corruption story. It received $390 million in government graft and just laid off 125 workers. As it was laying off these workers it was giving the top executives huge pay raises.

I will bet those top executives are big contributors to the Obomunism campaign.

[songsmith]

If that's a job, this is a career. (equally obscene grabbing gesture)
Nice comeback. You couldn't deny that you want corporate control of govt (after supporting and encouraging it so much), or deny that the right doesn't do it... you just don't want your enemies doing it. Entitlement to authority.

Entitlement to authority and authoritarianism belong to both parties and both extremes of your one-dimensional political spectrum. Your posts are self-evident that you happen to be on the far left side of authoritarianism.

You will not find authoritarianism in my posts, except to the extent that we need to somehow gain back the authority to get rid of authoritarianism.

BTW, your "comeback" had all the witticism of an 8th grader with an inferiority complex.

Not quite a freshman. [/quote]

Explain your Braintrust assessment that I fall on the far left side of anything. You cannot, and you are simply foiled again.
As for your entitlement to authority, it is ever-present and endemic. Everyone here, in every instance, is supposed to defer to your vastly superior "intellect." From finance to history, you are supposed to be the ultimate authority, and you pass your edicts down to us mere mortals. I never feel the need to genuflect, because you've repeatedly proven yourself to be little more than a "joe" who paid attention in college. I'm just not as impressed as you think I should be, and that's why you're even still in this conversation. I believe it's very telling that you used the phrase, "inferiority complex," it reveals your feelings of superiority, your egotism. I've made quite a hobby of popping those balloons whenever you hoist them aloft, and never get bored with it. It's like pitching against the big lurpy kid who thinks you owe him a homerun... fanning him is that much more satisfying.
Incidentally, my eighth-grade quip was in response to your "I got your jobs right here." Did you think I was going to quote Voltaire? I can, if you think you can hang... intellectually.

[lonewolf]

Explain your Braintrust assessment that I fall on the far left side of anything. You cannot, and you are simply foiled again.

I came to that conclusion because most of your posts contain the following left wing traits:

1) populist rantings against corporations.
2) populist rantings against the "right" extreme of your one-dimensional political spectrum.
3) no populist rantings against the "left" extreme of your one-dimensional political spectrum.
4) populist rantings in defense and support of our President despite his efforts to further socialize and authorize the federal government more than arguably anyone before him.

However, come to think of it, none of your posts actually have a valid political construct, so you may be right about this.

In the final analysis, you are nothing more than a ranting troll.

[Banned]

Explain your Braintrust assessment that I fall on the far left side of anything. You cannot, and you are simply foiled again.

I came to that conclusion because most of your posts contain the following left wing traits:

1) populist rantings against corporations.
2) populist rantings against the "right" extreme of your one-dimensional political spectrum.
3) no populist rantings against the "left" extreme of your one-dimensional political spectrum.
4) populist rantings in defense and support of our President despite his efforts to further socialize and authorize the federal government more than arguably anyone before him.

However, come to think of it, none of your posts actually have a valid political construct, so you may be right about this.

In the final analysis, you are nothing more than a ranting troll.

+1

[songsmith]

The 1% learns what waitress-spit tastes like.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/2 ... 99280.html