Bob Rock Sucks he took the metal out of metallica

[YankeeRose]

It don't matter. Megadeth still makes Metallica look like trailer trash .. Also, Marty Freidman could play circles around Kirk hammett ..

Igor from "Young Frankenstein" could play circles around Kirk Hammett? WHO KNEW? ...Be patient...


Reverence for the harmonies and appreciation of the music, with most music, first and foremost for me, says it all. There are MANY Metallica tunes that are masterpieces, others make you want to rip someone's head off! Besides, which band, Megadeth or Metallica, has made and sold more albums? That's usually an indication of who has the better product. So they changed for an album or 2, do they still play the early stuff the same at concerts? I rest my case. They're also standing the test of time, plenty of younger people are into them now.



The first sentence was only a joke..."Igor" was the late Marty Feldman.

[Punkinhead]

It don't matter. Megadeth still makes Metallica look like trailer trash .. Also, Marty Freidman could play circles around Kirk hammett ..

Agreed....\m/

So could Jeff Young. Man that guy had chops.

[f.sciarrillo]

It don't matter. Megadeth still makes Metallica look like trailer trash .. Also, Marty Freidman could play circles around Kirk hammett ..

Agreed....\m/

So could Jeff Young. Man that guy had chops.

Yeah, he was good. I think they were at their best with freidman though . I was upset when he left ...

[f.sciarrillo]

It don't matter. Megadeth still makes Metallica look like trailer trash .. Also, Marty Freidman could play circles around Kirk hammett ..

Igor from "Young Frankenstein" could play circles around Kirk Hammett? WHO KNEW? ...Be patient...


Reverence for the harmonies and appreciation of the music, with most music, first and foremost for me, says it all. There are MANY Metallica tunes that are masterpieces, others make you want to rip someone's head off! Besides, which band, Megadeth or Metallica, has made and sold more albums? That's usually an indication of who has the better product. So they changed for an album or 2, do they still play the early stuff the same at concerts? I rest my case. They're also standing the test of time, plenty of younger people are into them now.



The first sentence was only a joke..."Igor" was the late Marty Feldman.

Want to talk about harmonies ?? Ok, listen to cacophony some time. That is Merty Friendman adn jason Becker .. You talk about shredding your head off. They made hammett look like a beginner lol ..

[bassist_25]

Besides, which band, Megadeth or Metallica, has made and sold more albums? That's usually an indication of who has the better product

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Britney Spears has probaly sold more albums than Thelonious Monk. Are you saying that Spears has a better product than Monk? Well, Britney may have more market appeal, but I don't think that anyone would deny that Thelonious Monk had way more talent. But I guess you really can't objectively quantify that type of stuff to begin with.

Freidman definatley is the superior guitarist. Hammett is a good player when he actually comes up with a well-thought melodic idea instead of wanking on a bunch of pentatonic bullshit with the wah pedal on full thrust. Satriani should have broken Kirk's ankle so he wouldn't be able to use the damn thing. I like wah, but not on every freakin' guitar solo.

BTW - My favorite Metal guitarist is Alex Skolnick. I love the solo he did on Stare Into the Sun when he was with Savatage. Ironically enough though, I prefer Testament with James Murphy.

[Punkinhead]

MegaDeth was definitely at their best with Friedman. He's amazing. I have his MegaDeth albums, his solo stuff, and some Cacophony albums (which have just amazing guitar work).


James Murphy is phenomenal. He's probably the most influential guitarist on me as far as metal is concerned right now. Of all of the tons of albums he's played on, almost all of it is just really, really great metal guitar work. His solo stuff is not bad either. A little different than the bands he's played with but, different isn't always bad.


And Metallica might have sold more albums but, in my mind, they were nowhere near as good as MegaDeth. That's my personal opinion though, and I'm sure everyone has their own on that one.

[YankeeRose]

Whoa! How did Britney get dragged in with Metallica and MegaDeth? What a revolting thought!
Yes, I know, "sales", but I feel she (If one can even call what she does "music"), had no place in the discussion, on ROCKPAGE, no less! For shame! Sometimes topics can be thought about a little TOO much!



I like MegaDeth too, never said I didn't - and can respect and accept everyone's opinions, yet still keep my own...after all, you know the saying about opinions, don't you? Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one! :lol:

[bassist_25]

love the Megadeth: Marty is a great player; But the Burton /Hammett

Burton did some interesting counter-point stuff in his playing, but he's hugely overrated as a player. A lot of the metal kids talk about him like he's Stanley Clarke or someone. Was he good? Yes. Should he be elevated to the Jaco status that a lot of people would like to put him in? No. (for the record, I think that Steve Harris is also overrated)

Sean Malone, Pete Perez, and Tony Choy are all awesome metal bassists. Steve Digiorgio is also awesome, but he needs to stick to frets. His intonation on fretless leaves something to be desired.

[RobTheDrummer]

Who F'in cares about Metallica!? I think it's Lars that sucks anyway! HA!

[YankeeRose]

WOW...I'm actually in agreement
with RobTheDrummer about something!
With his whining about Napster, I lost any respect I had for Lars, no matter how good of a drummer I thought he was.

[ChaosRisingRice]

Yup lars does suck pretty bad now. Wish he would find some new beats

[ASB10]

I feel the need to add that Lars Ulrich is a dreadful drummer.....I mean he's great at what he does for his band, and it has done very well for him, so great....but in terms of sheer talent shining through on the recordings or live performances, it's not there.....on early material at least he was moderately (that term being used loosely) experimental, but Load and Reload were novice monotonous nonsense and Lord knows what he was attempting on St. Anger (which I don't think is nearly as bad of an album as it is made out to be, especially after watching Some Kind Of Monster)

[Punkinhead]

love the Megadeth: Marty is a great player; But the Burton /Hammett

Burton did some interesting counter-point stuff in his playing, but he's hugely overrated as a player. A lot of the metal kids talk about him like he's Stanley Clarke or someone. Was he good? Yes. Should he be elevated to the Jaco status that a lot of people would like to put him in? No. (for the record, I think that Steve Harris is also overrated)

Sean Malone, Pete Perez, and Tony Choy are all awesome metal bassists. Steve Digiorgio is also awesome, but he needs to stick to frets. His intonation on fretless leaves something to be desired.

I agree with that about Burton. He was very good but, not the greatest bassist in metal ever like some say he is. Alex Webster (Cannibal Corpse) could play circles around him and at the same time still be a bassist. Also, he plays death metal with his fingers, which is freaking amazing....Sixteenth notes at 250 bpm with his fingers.....Insane....

[f.sciarrillo]

MegaDeth was definitely at their best with Friedman. He's amazing. I have his MegaDeth albums, his solo stuff, and some Cacophony albums (which have just amazing guitar work).


James Murphy is phenomenal. He's probably the most influential guitarist on me as far as metal is concerned right now. Of all of the tons of albums he's played on, almost all of it is just really, really great metal guitar work. His solo stuff is not bad either. A little different than the bands he's played with but, different isn't always bad.


And Metallica might have sold more albums but, in my mind, they were nowhere near as good as MegaDeth. That's my personal opinion though, and I'm sure everyone has their own on that one.

I never heard James Murphy, the only guitar player I know from testament was skolnik, and he is great also ..

As far as Metallica being nowhere new as good as Megadeth I agree with. I still say the best thing that ever happen to Mustaine was getting kicked out of that band. I think a lot of that fueled his fire to be as good as he is .. It turned out to be a good thing ..

[f.sciarrillo]

for the record, I think that Steve Harris is also overrated.

Steve Harris is a very good writer. he is also an o.k bass player. As far as great ? I don't think anyone can match Michael Manring (sp?), Flea, or Les Claypoll ... They are in a class of their own.

[f.sciarrillo]

I feel the need to add that Lars Ulrich is a dreadful drummer.....I mean he's great at what he does for his band, and it has done very well for him, so great....but in terms of sheer talent shining through on the recordings or live performances, it's not there.....on early material at least he was moderately (that term being used loosely) experimental, but Load and Reload were novice monotonous nonsense and Lord knows what he was attempting on St. Anger (which I don't think is nearly as bad of an album as it is made out to be, especially after watching Some Kind Of Monster)

I never cared for Lars. Could never stand his pompous attitude. Personally he will also be a mediocre drummer. Never the Neil Peart, Nico Mcbrain, or Scott Columbus stature. heck, Nick Menza is another one that blew ulrich away ..

Larse is a idiot. I wish he would go back to denmark .. That reminds me. Did he ever get a US citizenship ??

[Staceman]

(for the record, I think that Steve Harris is also overrated)

I'm having a hell of a time trying to play Iron Maiden bass lines. Finally starting to get the galloping rhythm down somewhat, though not consistently yet. But I still can't get up on the speed.

Maybe this isn't a fair way to judge his ability, since I've been playing bass for less than a year so far now, but to me, he's a lean, mean, bass-playing machine.

[bassist_25]

I never heard James Murphy, the only guitar player I know from testament was skolnik, and he is great also ..

I believe that Skolnick left after The Ritual. He then joined Savatage to record Hand Full of Rain, which had some phenomenal playing. It had all of his shred stuff, but it showed a lot of his more bluesy edge too. I definatley recommend it if you're a Savatage fan, if not just to hear the awesome mini-opus, Chance. The last I heard, Alex was playing with Transiberian Orchestra.

James Murphy recorded Low with Testament (Eric Peterson got to show some of his lead chops on that album too). It's my favorite Testament album (with Practice What You Preach coming in second). Chuck Billy never sounded as awesome as he did on that album. It also has one of Testaments best ballads IMO: Trail of Tears. If you want to check out some of Murphy's melodic playing, listen to that tune.

[f.sciarrillo]

I never heard James Murphy, the only guitar player I know from testament was skolnik, and he is great also ..

I believe that Skolnick left after The Ritual. He then joined Savatage to record Hand Full of Rain, which had some phenomenal playing. It had all of his shred stuff, but it showed a lot of his more bluesy edge too. I definatley recommend it if you're a Savatage fan, if not just to hear the awesome mini-opus, Chance. The last I heard, Alex was playing with Transiberian Orchestra.

James Murphy recorded Low with Testament (Eric Peterson got to show some of his lead chops on that album too). It's my favorite Testament album (with Practice What You Preach coming in second). Chuck Billy never sounded as awesome as he did on that album. It also has one of Testaments best ballads IMO: Trail of Tears. If you want to check out some of Murphy's melodic playing, listen to that tune.

I do like savatage .. They are pretty good .. I'll have to check out james murphy ..