THE POLITICAL ARENA!!! Political Gladiators Inside!!

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Actually, I find it funny because you are trying to make your spin seem true and I'm not falling for it.

Frank, you just summed up your opinions in a nut shell. You are unwittingly admitting you like the wool over your eyes.

This is the problem with America! It scares the hell out of me ! Frank has always represented the typical uneducated right wing conservative. So his statement above speaks volumes for the right wing.

He actually thinks the facts are "funny". How can anyone discuss anything with someone who prefers propaganda over facts ?

Frank, I'm glad you accommodate my point by proving on a regular basis how stupid the typical Fox watcher is and how they live in denial. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep up the good (stupid) work .

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You said that you weren't going to vote because the congressional ruling made it imposible for your candidate to be elected or something like that.

You don't get your info from Rush Limbaugh, you listen to him and then try to find anyway you can to combat him. I found a local station that airs him, so I been listening to him myself

It's so easy to see through his spin. I really do listen to him whenever I can. He was ripping on the pat downs at the airport. So was the gut sitting in for him. Now why would he do that ?

If someone got through the security, he would blame them for not doing enough. It seems to me, security is more important than a pat dowm. BTW only 1% of the people were against the pat down, and I know you want the government to be run by polls.

Now back to your lie. Did I give you enough links ?

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You said that you weren't going to vote because the congressional ruling made it imposible for your candidate to be elected or something like that.

You don't get your info from Rush Limbaugh, you listen to him and then try to find anyway you can to combat him. I found a local station that airs him, so I been listening to him myself

It's so easy to see through his spin.

Now back to your lie. Did I give you enough links ?

Yeah, he may "SPIN" but look at how the liberals jump when he talks. They know that he is right. The left is afraid of him, as they are also afraid of Palin; and no I do not want her to run ..

It's the right wing politicians whop are afraid of him.

Now, back to your lie...please.

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[quote="f.sciarrillo"]You said that you weren't going to vote because the congressional ruling made it imposible for your candidate to be elected or something like that./quote]

God please wake up !

The Supreme court ruled, not congress ?

If you don't know this, well, you are uneducated (kind way of saying stupid).

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From your same site Bill ..

http://www.stripes.com/blogs/stripes-ce ... s-1.125079

I like that site. I bookmarked, thanks for the link ...

Here is Franks link for Frank to read. Frank, please read it.

It is a suggestion from a presidential panel which, if you had read, is not likely to happen. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING FRANK.
And thanks for showing your ineptness again and again !

A presidential commission on reducing the deficit has recommended freezing basic military pay and housing allowances for three years starting in 2011, according to a draft report of the commission’s recommendations posted online Wednesday.

“A three-year freeze at 2011 levels for these compensation categories would save the federal government $7.6 billion in compensation and tax expenditures, as well as another $1.6 billion in less retirement accrual, or $9.2 billion total discretionary savings in 2015,” it said.

The move would not affect combat pay, the report said.

A White House spokesman could not be reached for comment.

The recommendation is likely to get a cool reception in Congress.

“I’m not sure there will be much of an appetite to freeze military pay while our troops are fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq,” Josh Holly, a spokesman for Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee, said in an e-mail.

As it now stands, the House of Representatives has passed a defense spending bill that would give troops a 1.9 percent pay raise next year. The Senate is calling for a 1.4 percent pay raise, but it has not yet voted on the matter. Congress needs to come to an agreement on defense spending by the end of the year or pay will remain flat in January.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has looked for other ways to trim defense spending, such as closing Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Va., but that proposal has been roundly criticized by Virginia lawmakers including Democratic U.S. Sen. Jim Webb.

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you know Bill. This little discussion I had with you today; you have done every play in the playbook so far except one thing and that is the bat signal. Where is tragicmind? This is about the time the alter ego comes in. Well, actually that post by John can be a bat signal, but I will let one slide

Post some facts = liberal - I'll take it.
Catching you telling lies = liberal - I'll take it.
I've debunked everything you propagandize = liberal - I'll take it.
I am not tragicmind and I don't lie like you do. I do not know who it is.

Now back to your lie...

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now you are agreeing with the cuts ...

First you say that they are a reliable source and now you are trying to point out what you think I read wrong. I read that, a couple of times. Combat pay is normal to stay, but the rest is going away ...

Not everyone in the military is in a war right now .

Damn it Frank. Then read it again. It is nothing more than a recommendation from a commission to freeze those wages. it is not a white house / Obama proposal. It is not even being considered by the president or anyone else. It will not happen. Lift up the wool...

It goes on to say a pay increase at 1+5 will likely take place! Which is what Obama wants.

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yeah, anything I say that you don't agree with is a lie. Yawn !

Show me the pay freeze you said exists.

Oh, and being caught in a lie and "yawn"ing it off is from the Republican playbook.

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now you are agreeing with the cuts ...

First you say that they are a reliable source and now you are trying to point out what you think I read wrong. I read that, a couple of times. Combat pay is normal to stay, but the rest is going away ...

Not everyone in the military is in a war right now .

Damn it Frank. Then read it again. It is nothing more than a recommendation from a commission to freeze those wages. it is not a white house / Obama proposal. It is not even being considered by the president or anyone else. It will not happen. Lift up the wool...

It goes on to say a pay increase at 1+5 will likely take place! Which is what Obama wants.

Reading it over and over again would be lunacy. It won't be a different result. Just the same thing over and over again.

I know your stupid, but damn, do you really need to keep proving it ? Obama wants a pay raise for the military in 2011. There was a pay raise in 2010. And you are a fucking liar !

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Frank has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the right wing propaganda works. He no longer has the ability to decipher truth and facts. And what's worse, he's proud of it.

Be Afraid America.

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yeah, anything I say that you don't agree with is a lie. Yawn !

Show me the pay freeze you said exists.

Oh, and being caught in a lie and "yawn"ing it off is from the Republican playbook.

You are enough to make a person drink. If you can't read then that is your problem, not mine. If you can't see it then that is your problem. It is the same thing with the immigration law, you skip over things and just look at what you want and then take what you don't see and make them fit. You are building your own puzzle again.

I simple idiot knows that it isn't in affect yet, but it will be ! According to a site you said was credible. You can keep saying that Obama is the god send and will not allow it, that is bull shit. He will allow it, wait and see. If it is right, then I am thinking that this lame duck congress has to pass it. They won't ..

The site says it won't go in to effect.

So now I understand part of your problem. You don't know how to comprehend.

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