Fuckin A, I actually agree with this dude for oncebassist4life2004 wrote:if everyone put as much energy into their music as they do into pissing contests on rockpage, the "scene" would be pretty smokin' , IMHO.
In Regards to "The Scene"
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While I do understand Jerm's original point with this thread, I have to agree with Spellbound (yes, I do agree with Spellbound from time to time 
) ) and Sanchez (who's up in the polls by three points): Sitting around remincising about the good 'ole days really doesn't accomplish much. I'm a pretty young guy compared to a lot of people, and I hear a lot from the older cats about how it was different twenty years ago. Don't get me wrong - I do enjoy hearing those stories, but right now it's 2007. That's not really relevant now. Times change, and the reality of the situation is that you have to evolve or you're gonna get left in the dust.
I also agree with Spellbound (that's twice in the same thread
) about fans. Many "fans" of some bands are their family, friends, and coworkers. If I'm starting a new band, well I'm going to try and get as many of those people out to my first couple of shows as possible. That's just a smart thing to do in the eyes of club owners, because you're not going to be starting out with a following...and I find that most local clubs don't have a huge built in clientele. The thing is, though, eventually, you're going to have to put yourself on a stage and start winning over strangers. I think that's why a lot of bands fail. They start with people who are automatically going to be accepting of what they do, then they get frustrated when the "general public" doesn't have an immediate reaction. Trust me, it can be a bit scary walking into a new venue, a new area, a new market. I've wheeled my cabinets into a new club and saw the "so what can these guys do?" look on the people's faces. I've been heckled during soundcheck in a club where nobody knew who the fuck I or my band was. But you have to put on that air of confidence and "rock out with your cock out," so to speak.
As Rob said, we've seen a lot of our crowd begin to travel. Again, this isn't a boast either, but majority of the people who come to see us were strangers at first. Many of the fans have now become friends. Our very own "Bag" is a perfect example. He came out and saw us at the County Line one night, liked the band, and has become an almost permenant fixture at shows. It's to the point that Rob has to come up with new ways to switch up the setlist so Bag doesn't get tired of it. LOL Just for shits and giggles, I decided to Google our name the other night, when I probably should of been doing more productive stuff like studying for the GRE. LOL It was actually kind of surprising how often we popped up on people's MySpaces and web blogs about how we were their favorite band or they caught us and really enjoyed the show. Actually, it's kind of strange to read about yourself like that. It's not like reading a review from JP. It's just totally different. So I disagree that there's no fan loyalty. I've met a lot of Felix and the Hurricanes's fans, and those people are die-hard.
In all seriousness though, I'm not trying to toot my own horn. I'm not so full of myself that I think that people live for Bad Daze or that anyone will seriously give a shit 10 years after we're gone. That's why I agree with Sanchez about bands need to get over themselves. A lot of this pretentiousness just needs to fucking stop. We're not rockstars. We're playing in Central Pa. Whether we're doing covers, originals, or a mixture, nobody should fool themselves into thinking that they're changing the world or something. I think that when you hit the stage, you should be a "presence," something more than four or five people with normal day gigs. Be a rockstar when the stage lights come on. Don't walk around like your shit doesn't stink when you go on break. Maybe it's because I'm am musician...or maybe it's more because I'm a student of the human mind, but I've seen many bands come off stage and still act like rockstars. It's a total turnoff, and I can't help but laugh.
Wow, this post is much longer than what I set out to write.
) ) and Sanchez (who's up in the polls by three points): Sitting around remincising about the good 'ole days really doesn't accomplish much. I'm a pretty young guy compared to a lot of people, and I hear a lot from the older cats about how it was different twenty years ago. Don't get me wrong - I do enjoy hearing those stories, but right now it's 2007. That's not really relevant now. Times change, and the reality of the situation is that you have to evolve or you're gonna get left in the dust. I also agree with Spellbound (that's twice in the same thread
) about fans. Many "fans" of some bands are their family, friends, and coworkers. If I'm starting a new band, well I'm going to try and get as many of those people out to my first couple of shows as possible. That's just a smart thing to do in the eyes of club owners, because you're not going to be starting out with a following...and I find that most local clubs don't have a huge built in clientele. The thing is, though, eventually, you're going to have to put yourself on a stage and start winning over strangers. I think that's why a lot of bands fail. They start with people who are automatically going to be accepting of what they do, then they get frustrated when the "general public" doesn't have an immediate reaction. Trust me, it can be a bit scary walking into a new venue, a new area, a new market. I've wheeled my cabinets into a new club and saw the "so what can these guys do?" look on the people's faces. I've been heckled during soundcheck in a club where nobody knew who the fuck I or my band was. But you have to put on that air of confidence and "rock out with your cock out," so to speak. As Rob said, we've seen a lot of our crowd begin to travel. Again, this isn't a boast either, but majority of the people who come to see us were strangers at first. Many of the fans have now become friends. Our very own "Bag" is a perfect example. He came out and saw us at the County Line one night, liked the band, and has become an almost permenant fixture at shows. It's to the point that Rob has to come up with new ways to switch up the setlist so Bag doesn't get tired of it. LOL Just for shits and giggles, I decided to Google our name the other night, when I probably should of been doing more productive stuff like studying for the GRE. LOL It was actually kind of surprising how often we popped up on people's MySpaces and web blogs about how we were their favorite band or they caught us and really enjoyed the show. Actually, it's kind of strange to read about yourself like that. It's not like reading a review from JP. It's just totally different. So I disagree that there's no fan loyalty. I've met a lot of Felix and the Hurricanes's fans, and those people are die-hard.
In all seriousness though, I'm not trying to toot my own horn. I'm not so full of myself that I think that people live for Bad Daze or that anyone will seriously give a shit 10 years after we're gone. That's why I agree with Sanchez about bands need to get over themselves. A lot of this pretentiousness just needs to fucking stop. We're not rockstars. We're playing in Central Pa. Whether we're doing covers, originals, or a mixture, nobody should fool themselves into thinking that they're changing the world or something. I think that when you hit the stage, you should be a "presence," something more than four or five people with normal day gigs. Be a rockstar when the stage lights come on. Don't walk around like your shit doesn't stink when you go on break. Maybe it's because I'm am musician...or maybe it's more because I'm a student of the human mind, but I've seen many bands come off stage and still act like rockstars. It's a total turnoff, and I can't help but laugh.
My experience has been the complete opposite. Ever since I first started playing any instrument, my goal was to join a working band and perform. My pops was a musician, so to me that's what you did: You learn how to play an instrument, then you go out and join/form a band and start gigging. Besides, you don't pick up a bass or sit down at a drum set unless you plan on joining a band. Those are instruments that you don't sit around the house and just jam on for the fun of it. There's disappointment and frustration, but I can deal with that. Despite the asswipes that I've had to deal with since I started doing this (and they really are small in number compared to the quality people I've met), I've loved doing it. Being on stage is the one and only thing that I've ever been addicted to in life. Sometimes you do have to play for someone other than yourself. Even on a national level, whenever some little bitch like Axl Rose of Scott Stapp won't go on stage and perform, that's inexcusable. That's just my experience. It goes to show that everyone can get something out of music. You dig sitting around at home jamming, but I wouldn't be fulfilled at all doing that. That's what I love so much about music.mjb wrote:i think you should be playing for yourself, first and foremost above all. no matter if your a vocalist or whatever instrument you play when your in it to say , hey look at me look what i can do aren't i the fucking coolest i think your world is just going to be filled with disappointment. i play for me but i'm not really into the performing side of things, just me personally i'm just as content sitting out in the yard with an acoustic or if i get the stage jones which comes upon me from time to time i can go sit in or hit a jam nite somewhere and i'm good for another year or two.and while i'm at it, as soon as you put a price tag on playing guess what more stress, more disappointement. by having this attitude about my playing and where its taking me i feel good and successful because i set out to play for me first and i don't have to be upset about the scene, other people sticking it to ya blah, blah blah.
Wow, this post is much longer than what I set out to write.
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DirtySanchez wrote:Fuckin A, I actually agree with this dude for oncebassist4life2004 wrote:if everyone put as much energy into their music as they do into pissing contests on rockpage, the "scene" would be pretty smokin' , IMHO.
couldnt resist...sorry
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Well, that's actually not what I said, or intimated. You asked "What are the mostSIXSTYLE wrote:And The lions den is not making it a thriving scene.
packed bars in state college?" and I pointed out that there are several in State
College that area packed several nights of the week with live bands and that
The Lion's Den may again start having live music and will, hopefully, become
another one.
Other than a lack of original music being played I don't think most people in the
State College area would say there's a lack of live music venues. Granted, having
Crowbar and such would be great, but there are bars on every corner and most
have live music of various types. Example: Andy Tollins (Or some incarnation of)
for Happy Hours and Spider Kelly after at Zeno's. Very different styles and a lot
of the same crowd for both.
Brian O' Plush, and Steve, from The Nightcrawlers play in town every weekend
and they do very well, I think.
No, I don't think your post was whining at all, nor do I think there's anything wrongSIXSTYLE wrote: The idea of a music "Scene" which i wasn't whining about by the way.. I was talking
about how there needs to be more unity and more originality.
with comparing what was with what now is. What I was doing was saying that we
need to adapt to what is the case now. I think most on here do and do so very well.
If someone's done this for years and is still doing it they know the ups and downs,
if someone's new and has a certain expectation that isn't fulfilled pretty quickly, they
just don't last. I'm sure we've all seen it.
Doesn't mean there can't be frustrating moments and if someone wants to rant on
here about it, I see no harm.
And I agree with you totally that there needs to be unity in this musician community,
as well as with bars/venues, etc. I try to recommend several bands that I do know
or have seen to bar owners/bookers whenever I get a chance.
Backstreet Boys didn't....Sorry that was a reference to an old topic.SIXSTYLE wrote:I may be wrong, but I believe all bands start out unsigned right?
There was sort of an original band showcase thing that was going from place-to-placeSIXSTYLE wrote:I believe if you take the best talent in the area, and work on
showcasing it... MAybe even 4 bands a night, all different styles... more people will
come and more original music will be heard.
in State a couple of years ago. Jeff Sabarese used to run it. Seemed like a great idea
but I'm not sure what happened with it later.
SIXSTYLE wrote:I believe if you take the best talent in the area, and work on
showcasing it... MAybe even 4 bands a night, all different styles... more people will
come and more original music will be heard.
Don't know the details and haven't heard anything about it in a good few weeks butSIXSTYLE wrote:What if it was a day of all types of music, but mainly showcasing
the original music of the area?"
someone was setting something like that up in State College. It's a good idea anywhere.
I think everyone on here loves doing this. If you didn't you'd be crazy to deal with some
of the garbage, big or small (Anyone else sick to death of Sheetz food on the rides home?).
And, I think discussions, when pointed on thoughts on making any part of it better are
always good. Certainly show there's a large number of people around who care.
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Lots of great points made here guys. I really like these types of discussions.
In reply to the 'good ole days' thing.
I come from J-town. There may have been a good ole days but not for metal.
I started doing death metal in 1989-90. There was nowhere to play in J-town for that style. So we found a club owner that was willing to rent his place for the night to make our own shows. You may have heard of Pyramids in the west end. They did mainly wedding receptions and banquets. Other than that we went to Pittsburgh, Cleveland etc. to play just because there is a better market for that style. We knew that in the heyday of Hair Metal we weren't going to be accepted.
So,
We made demos, networked, found where "the scene" was and went to it.
Of course we were all 17-20 years old at that time and could travel freely without many worries.
With all that being said.
The new project I'm in is doing basically the same thing. Just in the digital age.
In reply to the 'good ole days' thing.
I come from J-town. There may have been a good ole days but not for metal.
I started doing death metal in 1989-90. There was nowhere to play in J-town for that style. So we found a club owner that was willing to rent his place for the night to make our own shows. You may have heard of Pyramids in the west end. They did mainly wedding receptions and banquets. Other than that we went to Pittsburgh, Cleveland etc. to play just because there is a better market for that style. We knew that in the heyday of Hair Metal we weren't going to be accepted.
So,
We made demos, networked, found where "the scene" was and went to it.
Of course we were all 17-20 years old at that time and could travel freely without many worries.
With all that being said.
The new project I'm in is doing basically the same thing. Just in the digital age.
That's really cool. That's another thing I respect with the Hardcore
bands. Those guys'll travel to NYC with the best outcome making
enough money to cover gas (Granted, nowadays, no small feat).
Our drummer used to sing for April Under Ice, was with Not Without
Resistance for a while, I believe and a coupl'a others. In one of 'em
they hauled down to either D.C. or Baltimore and made, I think $25
for all of them.
Lot of those (You) guys do that stuff and it's really cool. I think it
shows a real love for it.
The first show he did with us he was estatic because he was going to
get to go home and tell his fiancé he made some money.
Great weekends all and good shows to everyone playing.
bands. Those guys'll travel to NYC with the best outcome making
enough money to cover gas (Granted, nowadays, no small feat).
Our drummer used to sing for April Under Ice, was with Not Without
Resistance for a while, I believe and a coupl'a others. In one of 'em
they hauled down to either D.C. or Baltimore and made, I think $25
for all of them.
Lot of those (You) guys do that stuff and it's really cool. I think it
shows a real love for it.
The first show he did with us he was estatic because he was going to
get to go home and tell his fiancé he made some money.
Great weekends all and good shows to everyone playing.
DaveP.
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Damn! That's an excellent quote.VENTGtr wrote:If someone's done this for years and is still doing it they know the ups and downs,
if someone's new and has a certain expectation that isn't fulfilled pretty quickly, they
just don't last. I'm sure we've all seen it.
As I said in my first post, my pops was a semi-pro musician; so for me, I had a pretty good idea of what to expect and what would be expected of me. That's not to say that I'm better than anyone for having that background, but I think that it's made things easier for me. I had done the "garage band" thing until I hit the ripe 'ole age of 18. Then I was like, alright, I'm old enough to play in a bar. It's time to look for some serious musicians who know their shit. I've always played with guys who have been older than me, and it's quite an honor and a humbling experience to have them treat you as an equal, even when you're in over your head, which has happened to me on more than one occasion. LOL
Sometimes I post things that may come off as being arrogant, and I've been accused of posting such things. I've never claimed to be a rockstar or a bass wizard. Actually, I feel pretty ignorant about a lot of things. I just believe in being "professional," and having a professional attitude. I do hate things like live tuning in the middle of a set or scooping mids on a guitar amp. Of course, that's just my opinion, and people are free to disagree with me on those. Anyways...
I remember April Under Ice. I went to high school with their guitarist, Nanthan. Actually, I remember that whole scene with bands like PRYM (Nanthan's first band), Eyedol Insanity, Double Negative, and Not Without Resistance. Damn, that's insane remembering all of those bands. It's funny, when I filled in for Cdub in Plush last summer, Travis and I would sit around talking about all of the old bands from the Clearfield/Philipsburg area.
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If you can't take performing to a room full of chairs...
If you can't take 1/2 the cash for doing 1/3 of the show during a blizzard...
If you can't take being emailed a gig cancellation on short notice due to "internal problems"...
If you can't take finding out that "internal problems" is another band in "your scene" that took your gig for less money...
If you have found "the scene" so bad that you have to publicly complain about it....
If you can't take 1/2 the cash for doing 1/3 of the show during a blizzard...
If you can't take being emailed a gig cancellation on short notice due to "internal problems"...
If you can't take finding out that "internal problems" is another band in "your scene" that took your gig for less money...
If you have found "the scene" so bad that you have to publicly complain about it....
...Oh, the freedom of the day that yielded to no rule or time...
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LMFAO!!!lonewolf wrote:If you can't take performing to a room full of chairs...
If you can't take 1/2 the cash for doing 1/3 of the show during a blizzard...
If you can't take being emailed a gig cancellation on short notice due to "internal problems"...
If you can't take finding out that "internal problems" is another band in "your scene" that took your gig for less money...
If you have found "the scene" so bad that you have to publicly complain about it....
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Dude I swear I just laughed for about 10 min. Now thats funny right der. Sorry to steal your thunder on that one BD Rob.....I couldnt think of anything so I had to plagerize off of you...
We got all highed Up and somebody put the car in the Pool!
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UNEARTHA7XMatt wrote:...If anyone is interested in Gettin one together possibly at the same place the Lincoln Caverns Ho-Down is held, Get ahold of me on here or e-mail me at slapslikeike@hotmail.com
Just to let those know who might be interested, there is going to be a Hoedown this year,
but all of the details aren't in yet.
So help MAKE a scene then. Most Friday and Saturday nights, Aldos has either a metal band, a hardcore band or a punk band playing. Come out, dont drink any alcohol (to prove youre just there for the music) and support these bands.
Tonight there is a punk band playing. Tomorrow the Marauders. Next week there is a benefit show on Friday and Im quite positive on Saturday another original band playing.
Clearfield still has pretty good shows as well. Not Without Resistance is still together. Get on their myspace page and find out when and where they are playing. They always bring in a decent crowd.
Support the scene yourself AND bring your friends.
D.
Tonight there is a punk band playing. Tomorrow the Marauders. Next week there is a benefit show on Friday and Im quite positive on Saturday another original band playing.
Clearfield still has pretty good shows as well. Not Without Resistance is still together. Get on their myspace page and find out when and where they are playing. They always bring in a decent crowd.
Support the scene yourself AND bring your friends.
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There's going to be a Hoedown-type fund-raiser for Scott Eckberg the weekend of June 30 at Raystown Lake. He lost everything - his home and Guitar making shop - to fire, and was not insured. Next time my daughter goes to the library to use a computer, I may have her post the info in Benefits, unless one of the Band members involved does it first.
(For some reason, possibly due to the format it's in - I'm unable to copy and paste the info, or I would've done so the day I received the e-mail with the links.)
(For some reason, possibly due to the format it's in - I'm unable to copy and paste the info, or I would've done so the day I received the e-mail with the links.)
That's really cool. I hope to be able to impart some wisdom...or something akin to wisdom...bassist_25 wrote: As I said in my first post, my pops was a semi-pro musician; so for me, I had a pretty good
idea of what to expect and what would be expected of me.
whatever I can muster that may resemble...to the lad if/when he decides to do this.
Actually, I don't think I've ever seen you post anything that's been anything other thanbassist_25 wrote:Sometimes I post things that may come off as being arrogant,...
professional and insightful. Certainly not arrogant. And you're right, being "professional,"
and having a professional attitude can go along way. Especially in dealing with venues. What
I can't stand is when someone calls out a song and one guy in the band starts playing it...but
the band doesn't actually do the song. That's truly annoying. Also, someone sitting there
playing their guitar, bass, whatever, during a break. I don't mind people tuning so much if
they really need to, but, ya, having a tuner in line to no one else hears it is certainly preferable.
Our drummer, Brad, was also in Eyedol insanity. Not sure if he was singing or drumming in it.
I might have a shirt printed with you guidelines, Lonewolf. Something to wear when auditioning
people!
DaveP.
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Re: In Regards to "The Scene"
SIXSTYLE wrote:It's 2007 now and I think that's where the frustration comes in.
In 2 years alot has changed...Where's the crowbar? It's a dance club. What are the most packed bars in state college?
Dance clubs... So for 2007, it may get the best DJ scene but I doubt it's going to get anything in regards to bands.
While you guys have been reminiscing about the OLD Crowbar and the lack of "scene", we have played the Cell Block twice in the last month... 85 % originals... Along with Till December, Lost in Paris, Panacea, Green Eggs, Candyflyp, Velveeta, and most likely more... All just in the past month.
The Cell Block ISN'T always a dance club...
I had a night off awhile back and went to see the NightCrawlers... but the line was down the street at the Phyrst... I would consider that packed...
On Wed nights Andy Tollins packs Zenos at 8:00 !!!
The skeller shows are packed...
The Brewery is once again becoming packed and has been having a lot more "all original / multiple band" shows...
The Phyrst is always packed...
The Darkhorse is packed...
I like the music scene in State College right now personally.
And there are plenty of other places to catch shows around here besides bars...
I do know that I have never found a "scene" on an internet forum before...
Just a thought...
Its here... just look a little harder...
The nationals or even regionals that used to come through here didn't make the scene... The people from here did and still do...
There are a million side projects around here also that cover just about every imaginable genre...
Just because its not on RockPage or in the CDT doesn't mean its not going on...
Put 20 bucks in your pocket and start wandering around town some night now that the students are out of town and you should find something you can get into...
For guitar players I recommend going to check out any show where Ted McKloskey plays... get a buzz, relax, and enjoy the show!
And to truly help the "scene" pick up one of the many CD's available by local artists instead of that last shot...
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True, but that's what I initially meant when I said that RP covers a hugeSpellboundByMetal wrote:ok well, the ONLY reason State College has
a "scene" is because of all the college kids that infest the area.
SC is more than an hour from here i dont consider it to be a part of the altoona
"scene".
region to be considered covering any particular "scene". Altoona is an hour
from me, State is about 35 minutes, DuBois is 45 or so, Lewistown, forever
and 3 days, etc. But people from all of these places and more post on here,
which, I think, is great.
BTW, Burk, sorry to have left Lowjack off during the mention. LJ has played
the SXSW and such, which is pretty cool to have a band from the area, and
this forum, do).
Why State has a "scene" is irrelevant, in my opinion. It does, as do most
college towns. But, I could say that the only reason Altoona has a "scene" is
because it's a more "city"-like area as opposed to a lot of the smaller, rural
places that, in my experience, can get great crowds and are fun to play.
Burk's point is that things are still good for live music in SC. I don't go out
there much anymore at all with playing weekends, but just considering that
almost every place has bands throughout most days of the week is pretty
positive.
I still think there are places in Altoona that could have bands, at least some,
weekdays and mebbe this would help in the scene-dom, but those of you
who go there, play there, etc. prolly have better ideas on how that would fly.
DaveP.
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My favorite time of the year for shows in SC is the summer... I love the crowds, not excessively packed like during the school year or insane like football season, but there is definitely sill a draw... My wallet and girlfriend however prefer the football season income!
All I was saying was that it's there (the scene)... if you look, and I currently like it.
AND we have recently started working with some of the bar owners and other bands to start eliminating total vertical booking so that we can really push the originals every show without "overdoing it" week after week after week... Everybody knows that most of the students want to hear Jessie's girl over an original, but there are a large number of people at every show (students and non-students) who want to hear that original or by a CD... they are the scene i.m.o. and I think there are some pretty kick ass bands in SC right now... Cover band, Original band, Acoustic Performers, Theater, Kareokee... whatever... who cares, its music, even Kareokee consists of a person attempting to sing! Currently State College has all of it! And I think that the local bands get along great here... the only downside being that we never get to see each other play... Last summer when we were putting Lowjack together I saw a different show every night of the week!!! And it was awesome!!! There IS a band playing EVERY night year round in State College... I haven't heard a DJ since the last wedding I was at, and he followed a band...
The students have little impact on the scene in State College... They just fill in space at the bar (most all of it)... But if a band isnt that exciting, they WILL leave and go somewhere else... the student crowd, contrary to popular belief, isn't totally built into the bar.
Rock on Rockpage... I don't get to stop by much anymore since I've been running Violinpage.net (Exclusively for crybabies)
Just throwing in my two cents...
Also there is a great ALL-AGE, ALL-DAY, OUTDOOR benefit coming up June 16th at the Pleasant Gap Fairgrounds for Michael Ginrich (Chaos Method) who passed away last summer, featuring plenty of local music... Check it out at:
www.myspace.com/ox_fest
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All I was saying was that it's there (the scene)... if you look, and I currently like it.
AND we have recently started working with some of the bar owners and other bands to start eliminating total vertical booking so that we can really push the originals every show without "overdoing it" week after week after week... Everybody knows that most of the students want to hear Jessie's girl over an original, but there are a large number of people at every show (students and non-students) who want to hear that original or by a CD... they are the scene i.m.o. and I think there are some pretty kick ass bands in SC right now... Cover band, Original band, Acoustic Performers, Theater, Kareokee... whatever... who cares, its music, even Kareokee consists of a person attempting to sing! Currently State College has all of it! And I think that the local bands get along great here... the only downside being that we never get to see each other play... Last summer when we were putting Lowjack together I saw a different show every night of the week!!! And it was awesome!!! There IS a band playing EVERY night year round in State College... I haven't heard a DJ since the last wedding I was at, and he followed a band...
The students have little impact on the scene in State College... They just fill in space at the bar (most all of it)... But if a band isnt that exciting, they WILL leave and go somewhere else... the student crowd, contrary to popular belief, isn't totally built into the bar.
Rock on Rockpage... I don't get to stop by much anymore since I've been running Violinpage.net (Exclusively for crybabies)
Just throwing in my two cents...
Also there is a great ALL-AGE, ALL-DAY, OUTDOOR benefit coming up June 16th at the Pleasant Gap Fairgrounds for Michael Ginrich (Chaos Method) who passed away last summer, featuring plenty of local music... Check it out at:
www.myspace.com/ox_fest
-BURK
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