Possible MTV rip off...hmmm?

JayBird · Post by **JayBird** » Wednesday Mar 24, 2004

Ok...I think MTV ripped off LOST LEDNY'S intro song(LOST)...track 1. Now hear me out before you think this is just publicity and that I'm crazy. Our drummer's uncle lives in California. Last summer this uncle took 10 cd's back to Cali with him to distribute to know producers and such. The uncle is a "B" movie actor or some crap like that. Anyway, this uncle is friends with the producer of the Super Bowl's half time show. As we all know...MTV produces the half time show. So this leads me to believe that the producer does have a copy of LOST LEDNY'S cd. So that also means MTV has access to that cd. Ok, for all of you MTV junkies...next time the "Newlyweds" show is on, wait until the credits roll and all of that stuff is finished. Watch the whole time during the credits....now listen for the instrumental hum and weird church like sounds. Now if you have LOST LEDNY'S cd, place it into your player and play TRACK 1. Call me crazy, but they are one in the same. LEDNY'S cd came out before "Newlyweds" did. Here's the bad part...if it is the track...LEDNY isn't collecting.

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Chevelle7982 · Post by **Chevelle7982** » Thursday Mar 25, 2004

Assuming you have your material copywritten, can't you do anything legally? I know you would probably like to be paid but even recognition would be a great promotional tool. Good luck with this issue and keep us all posted on the matter, I know you drew my attention!

Post by **Ron** » Friday Mar 26, 2004

Jaybird, more than likely you would never be able to collect any royalties. Not because the material isn't Lost Ledney's, but your description makes it sound like there are no words or transcribable music in the clip, just instrumental hum and weird sounds. If so, the clip may not qualify legally as a copyrightable song. That may also be one reason why MTV is using it.

I personally wish you could get money from MTV, but I wouldn't spend any money on lawyers or anything.

Chevelle7982 wrote:Assuming you have your material copywritten, can't you do anything legally?

I see a lot of misunderstanding about copyrights in the forums, but the most important thing to remember is that if you write down or record a song, it is automatically copyrighted. You don't have to do anything else. Registering with the US copyright office will make sure that you have proof of the date of the material for litigation, but it is not necessary to maintain the rights to your material.

Chevelle7982 · Post by **Chevelle7982** » Friday Mar 26, 2004

Ron, thanks for that piece of useful information. I myself did not know that. I have worried several times about the same situation possibly happening. I've had friends, etc., take my cd and then distribute the material to many other sources and always felt paranoid about it. Not because I want paid, but I would hate to have someone steal my material that I have put forth my life for. I guess being young means that there is still alot more to learn about it! Ha Ha!

Chevelle7982 · Post by **Chevelle7982** » Friday Mar 26, 2004

Ron, this is off the Lost Ledney subject, but, what does the flames and senior member, gold member mean? This is probably something that everybody but myself knows, but what can I say? a burn-out tends to miss things sometimes!

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Friday Mar 26, 2004

Isn't it legal to use up to 30 seconds of someone's material?

Chevelle7982 · Post by **Chevelle7982** » Friday Mar 26, 2004

I would hope not! It shouldn't be legal to use any material of someone elses, with the exception of being a cover band, that is understandable.

JayBird · Post by **JayBird** » Friday Mar 26, 2004

Well I just got done watching the "Newlyweds" at 4:00. I sat through the whole episode just so I could record the ending credits. The LOST LEDNY intro in full is about 1:30. The actual part I'm concerned is only about 2 seconds worth. The "Newlyweds" end credit humming and such is also about 2 seconds worth. Hmmm...strange!? It just seems so odd that two people in this world (LOST LEDNY & MTV) could have the same exact material. I sent MTV an e-mail asking what the end credit humming is from: a song, just an instrumental made for the end credits, etc. No response as of yet.

DisturbedViking · Post by **DisturbedViking** » Saturday Apr 03, 2004

You are right that does sound very oddly like the intro track on the Lost Ledny c.d.. I was keeping my eye open 4 it 2 be on and me at home. It sounds to my ear to be right on the money with the track. And also how in the world can anybody be married to someone so dumb, I don't care how hot she is. A box of rocks are smarter than she is.