Changes that you would make to a bar

[sixstringdrop]

alright evreybody a topic that im sure evreyone has input on if you were able to change something about a bar that would make it a better place/funner/more helpfull/interesting/inspirational /musical/whatever you can think of that can make a bar better

1 thing i would like to see at a bar is a beer pong table....
and a boxing ring for the fights..
a pit for moshing with the slipperest floors in the world ha haha ha

[Bassnhats]

I have always thought if you could start bands earlier in the night it would ...

1. I work at 6 am all week so I am not an night owl anymore and usually in bed by 10 ish,would love to see my favorite bands from say 8-12ish,still able to get sleep for work and not so exhausted from work to enjoy my time out.
2. lessens the chance of DUI check points if you can be home by 11 or 12ish.

3.why stay out till 2am to see the good set;s from bands when you could see the good set's around 11ish,with the option to go else where after to catch late bar bands if you desire to do so....


just my thoughts!

[bfoust]

Some kind of non-smoking section where I can still enjoy the band just the same as smokers.

If that's not possible, then a very good filtration system.


Or... smoke free arenas just for the bands to play, the rest of the bar allows smoking.. (For instance, Stinger's Pub in Maryland.)

[witchhunt]

I have always thought if you could start bands earlier in the night it would ...

1. I work at 6 am all week so I am not an night owl anymore and usually in bed by 10 ish,would love to see my favorite bands from say 8-12ish,still able to get sleep for work and not so exhausted from work to enjoy my time out.
2. lessens the chance of DUI check points if you can be home by 11 or 12ish.

3.why stay out till 2am to see the good set;s from bands when you could see the good set's around 11ish,with the option to go else where after to catch late bar bands if you desire to do so....


just my thoughts!

I think I would go out more often if this were the case. I'd probably even be more serious about playing again.

[Trucula]

Some kind of non-smoking section where I can still enjoy the band just the same as smokers.

If that's not possible, then a very good filtration system.


Or... smoke free arenas just for the bands to play, the rest of the bar allows smoking.. (For instance, Stinger's Pub in Maryland.)

I agree as a non-smoker, but...we use to play Dutch Country Inn in Reedville...Nice place..Smoke free in the room bands are in...smoking in the bar area....But allot won't go....ones that do sit in the bar...a few wonder in to dance...then back to the pack-o-cigs in the other room...But I know where your coming from...I hate the smell of my clothes when I get home at nights...and my g/f tells me to leave them in the bathroom.. They do need better filter systems in allot of places!

[EyesOfAnguishbassist]

Trucula said : I hate the smell of my clothes when I get home at nights...and my g/f tells me to leave them in the bathroom.. They do need better filter systems in allot of places!


I bet thats why she tells ya to leave them in the bathroom Bob, you sly dog!!!

[RamRod 1]

Yeah, earlier band hours like 8 to 11 and smoke free.

[moxham123]

The 2 biggest reasons why people tell us they do not come to bars to see our band is because the hours are too late and they can't stand the smoke.

In all the places we play that have moved up the hours to 9:00 - 12:00, their business has picked up considerably. Plus, the club owners and managers like it because the people are out earlier, the band is packed up earlier, and they can clean up and shut down much earlier. In most of the places that we still play until 1:00 or 1:30, most of the people leave during the last break around 12:00. I would like if we played everywhere 8:00 - 11:00 or 9:00 - 12:00

[witchhunt]

It would be interesting if the local venues would poll their crowds for a couple weeks. Ask if they would prefer 8-11, 9-12, 10-1.

[RamRod 1]

I think here in Pa. that historically the bars wanted to catch the 2nd shift crowd which would be off work at 11:00 which is one reason for having entertainment later but times sometimes change.

[Hawk]

Why don't you ("you" in a plural sense, meaning anyone reading this thread) look into buying the Post 3 Building ? There is a great bar and a good sized bar room and a stage. And a parking lot. Also a kitchen.

[bfoust]

Why don't you ("you" in a plural sense, meaning anyone reading this thread) look into buying the Post 3 Building ? There is a great bar and a good sized bar room and a stage. And a parking lot. Also a kitchen.

I hear Burgi's is for sale too

JK

But I am buying that once I win the powerball, and having every band on here play there. Aren't I nice?

[BDR]

Show time: Early band start time is a topic that's come up before and, simply put, it's such a bad idea. FACT: The earlier a band starts, the more likely people are to get a DUI. If you start at 9 p.m., those people are just getting wound up earlier in the evening and no matter when the band quits, most people are going to keep drinking until they're made to stop (2:30 a.m.). I can't speak for other bands but I know when we start playing, the drinking turns up about 5 notches. If we started at 9 p.m. (or 8 ... are you serious?!?) the local newpapers wouldn't have enough room on Monday to print all the crashes and DUIs.

If you wind them up earlier in the evening, they're just "drunker" (more drunk? help Cap'n ...) by night's end.

Early start time = bad idea. If it's too late, you're too old.

Smoke: It's an old argument, but I think a poll of area club owners would show that the majority wouldn't be too excited about a smoking ban. Smoke eaters need to be maintained better in some places, for sure. As far as stinky clothes are concerned, I can't speak for anyone else, but my sweaty a$$ by night's end makes my clothes smell much worse than any smoke contamination. Plus, we have a washing machine at home which, in most cases, gets my clothes clean again.

1 thing i would like to see at a bar is a beer pong table....
and a boxing ring for the fights..
a pit for moshing with the slipperest floors in the world ha haha ha

Yeah, that'd be frikkin' awesome ... and we could also give everyone switchblades and throwing stars or something at the door ...

[/$.02]

r:>)

[Trucula]

How bout for those who wanna, or are caught fighting, we put in a ring and put the guys in Sumo suits and let em have at it for our entertainment??...I mean who's gonna wanna scrap anymore after laughing their ass off at that s#$t???!!

[VENTGtr]

I know it's been said 101x before but bars/clubs/venues need to promote
more and better. The I-net can be useful and FREE. Used to be the
argument that it costs, or that they (Owners/bookers, etc.‚) didn't
know how, or that it was too much time to update, etc.

Really, with MS, how hard is it to setup a "space" and use it to promote?
Yet, few places do and even those that setup a page on MS really do
little with it.

Often it's an employee who sets something up, with good intentions, and
then it pretty much gets forgotten. Nothing on there to help anyone know
their scheds, etc.

Lisa does a good job with the Alley Poppers, I've gotten 1 announcement
from Tubby's to the East of us, but that's pretty much it (With the exception
of "great ringtone offers" from a couple of others).

Smaller places can get a few extra people from it for next to nothing.

Another thing would be house sound and some lighting. Doesn't have to
be a huge, really expensive setup, but something that works for the place.
The benefits of this are many and have been covered prior.

I've had a lot of owners, etc. be worried about the size of the PA, etc.
Someone to run it would be great as well. We have someone who runs
for us and having the option is optimal.

ALSO, if you have a bigger place, have someone who knows about
sound to come in to help make sure the place sounds good. Bigger
places can be fraught with sound problems. The fixes can be really
inexpensive (Some triangular cut foam velcroed to the walls will help
diffuse sound very well).


I don't really drink when we're playing. Maybe one or two through a
night, but if a band is on break and you see one of them standing there,
it's a big help to get them what they need. The longer they stand there
the longer the break is goin' to be. This one was mentioned to me by
someone else, and their rationale was reasonable (And longer), so
there it is.

Lastly, some guarantee of payment. Some amount and the door, etc.
rather than just the door (Please start at a minimum of $100. $25 or $50
plus the door inspires little confidence that you get people there and doesn't
go very far when we're looking at paying someone for sound).

[BDR]

I know it's been said 101x before but bars/clubs/venues need to promote
more and better. The I-net can be useful and FREE. Used to be the
argument that it costs, or that they (Owners/bookers, etc.‚) didn't
know how, or that it was too much time to update, etc.

Really, with MS, how hard is it to setup a "space" and use it to promote?
Yet, few places do and even those that setup a page on MS really do
little with it.

Often it's an employee who sets something up, with good intentions, and
then it pretty much gets forgotten. Nothing on there to help anyone know
their scheds, etc.

Lisa does a good job with the Alley Poppers, I've gotten 1 announcement
from Tubby's to the East of us, but that's pretty much it (With the exception
of "great ringtone offers" from a couple of others).

Smaller places can get a few extra people from it for next to nothing.

Another thing would be house sound and some lighting. Doesn't have to
be a huge, really expensive setup, but something that works for the place.
The benefits of this are many and have been covered prior.

I've had a lot of owners, etc. be worried about the size of the PA, etc.
Someone to run it would be great as well. We have someone who runs
for us and having the option is optimal.

ALSO, if you have a bigger place, have someone who knows about
sound to come in to help make sure the place sounds good. Bigger
places can be fraught with sound problems. The fixes can be really
inexpensive (Some triangular cut foam velcroed to the walls will help
diffuse sound very well).


I don't really drink when we're playing. Maybe one or two through a
night, but if a band is on break and you see one of them standing there,
it's a big help to get them what they need. The longer they stand there
the longer the break is goin' to be. This one was mentioned to me by
someone else, and their rationale was reasonable (And longer), so
there it is.

Lastly, some guarantee of payment. Some amount and the door, etc.
rather than just the door (Please start at a minimum of $100. $25 or $50
plus the door inspires little confidence that you get people there and doesn't
go very far when we're looking at paying someone for sound).

... and free cake. Don't forget the cake.

r:>)

[VENTGtr]

Mmm. Ya. The cake.

[SpellboundByMetal]

If the bars were made smoke free, you all would see your "crowds" go to almost nothing. truth is your "crowd" IS just people @ the bar smoking and drinking regardless of what band is there.



BDRob- about the washing machine, hell yeah!
when i saw the complaints about smoky clothes, it was like they forgot about a washer.....which is what one would use to get clothes clean any other time. Id much rather have to throw some clothes in as soon as i got home, then play to floorboards and a bartender. rockers are supposed to be tough....and they are complaining about smoke....WTF!?

[DirtySanchez]

I think bars should have a room where people can "do it".

It would take alot of the awkwardness out of the one night stand.

Of course, it would probably skyrocket the alreaad high divorce rate.

Honey, if you're reading this, I am only kidding.

[songsmith]

The smoking/no smoking thing is moot. Smokers will always say it's better to allow it, because they need to justify their own ugly addiction. Nonsmokers will always say no, because it's annoying and gross. Former smokers will always say no because they've mustered enough self-control to beat nicotine, and now feel superior. I'm a former smoker, but never felt the monkey on my back like most folks. I'd love to never have smoke blown in my area ever again, but I'm realistic enough to understand that smokers don't care about other people.----->JMS

[BDR]

... but I'm realistic enough to understand that smokers don't care about other people.----->JMS

Did you just call me a nappy headed ho?!?!?

r:>)

[DirtySanchez]

Smokers don't care about other people.

WOW

I understand you don't like it, but it's not illegal.

And those beans you so fondly speak of, they smoke too.
But, if I said "put that roach out, it's killing me" I'd just be a party pooper.

Sometimes cigarette smoke gets on my nerves and I smoke.

When I eat I'd rather not be near it, but if I have to I just deal with it.
That's something that's not done too much anymore and people have become pussies, addicted to anti-depressants, simply because they CANNOT DEAL WITH IT.

[bassist_25]

I'm a non-smoker - and maybe it's because I grew up with both of my parents smoking - but I rarely notice cigerette smoke unless there's an ungodly amount of it or it's being blown directly towards me. Banning smoking from bars is one of the least of my priorities when it comes to improving the local night scene. Besides, ask club owners in New York how they liked the smoking ban. From my recollection, most were none too thrilled about their attendance rates after the legislation was passed.

[BDR]

And those beans you so fondly speak of, they smoke too.
But, if I said "put that roach out, it's killing me" I'd just be a party pooper.

I really can't read Johnny's inflection in that post so I'm not sure if he was being serious, but, if you are serious about feeling that smokers don't care about other people, then I guess the same should be said about people who drive fossil-fuel powered cars and heat their homes with combustibles.

r:>)

[songsmith]

Okaaaaaaay...
Let's look at a moot point objectively, and make some comparisons:

-- If I was in a room inundated with beans, I and everyone else, would giggle uncontrollably. My clothes would stink, but I'd have no crashing headache next day.
-- People do not extend their bean addiction to others by insisting they have a constitutional right to indulge.
-- Blowing beansmoke in one's face is not a way of saying, "F*ck you," it's a way of saying, "Shotgun?"
-- People use beans to treat pain and appetite loss from cancer. People use tobacco to acquire cancer.
-- People don't start bean usage because it "makes me look cool."
-- I've never had to not pay a bill because I was down to my last bean.
-- Nobody ever put their beans out in my beer.
-- Beans don't make a woman's voice sound skanky, or wrinkle her skin.
-- I don't wake up in the morning needing beans, finish a meal needing beans, leave work needing beans, sit in a bar needing beans, bum beans from a total stranger, bitch about having to enjoy beans outside in the cold, or feel discriminated against because my beans cost a lot. Incidentally, beans cost a lot.
-- There are many more things to be said (see references to moot point) but I'll just point out that I've never inferred that someone was a pussy because they don't like beans. Those who do not partake of beans decrease demand for beans, thereby driving down the price of said psychoactive legumes. That is a good thing.

Maybe I am a pussy, but I'm a perceptive one at the very least.
Point still moot.------------------->JMS