Bush is an Idiot ..

[RobTheDrummer]

Yeah read the link(same one)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_disar ... _1997-2000

Check out the time line Novenber 18 and 20th of 1997

You'll see WAR ADVERTED,

Diplomacy Bush can't even say it Yet Know what it means!!!!

He didn't even give the UN or any dipomacy take affect,Oh yeah we found WMD right

Hey man, that was 1997. We're talkin 2003 after many failed attempts of talking to Saddam to let inspectors in.

[f.sciarrillo]

yep, I'm not disputing the fact that we had to take Hussein out. I am disputing the fact that it ended when we took him out, and we should have left. Not this trying to liberate a country that has been living the way they live for thousands of years. You can not take a country like that and liberate them. The last liberation that took place in Iraq was when the walls of Babylon came down and turned it into what it is today ...

[RobTheDrummer]

yep, I'm not disputing the fact that we had to take Hussein out. I am disputing the fact that it ended when we took him out, and we should have left. Not this trying to liberate a country that has been living the way they live for thousands of years. You can not take a country like that and liberate them. The last liberation that took place in Iraq was when the walls of Babylon came down and turned it into what it is today ...

You don't think it's time for a revolution for these people?

[Banned]

If you've all been watching the News, Bush is Now trying to provoke Iran into a War that's why there's a troop Buildup, we raided there consilet, in the hope they would react, so if we or should I say when we go to war with Iran I think we all know who's going to jump into the war to assist Iran....Russia will come to there Aid, so this may possibly be the beginning of the Third World War

[Baceman Spiff]

If you've all been watching the News, Bush is Now trying to provoke Iran into a War that's why there's a troop Buildup, we raided there consilet, in the hope they would react, so if we or should I say when we go to war with Iran I think we all know who's going to jump into the war to assist Iran....Russia will come to there Aid, so this may possibly be the beginning of the Third World War

Its the other way around. Bush isnt trying to 'provoke' Iran into war. The Irannian president, Ahmadinejad, believes his purpose in life is to start armageddon. Its Iran who's trying to provoke the rest of the free world into war. Its they who behind most of the insurgency in Iraq. Theyre just waiting for us to pull out. Iran is also funding Hezballah in Lebanon.
Yes WWIII is very possibly comming. Its 1930's Europe all over again. Ahmadinejad, Chavez and Putin are the new Axis. And the Neville Chamberlains of the world are still trying to find diplomatic solutions. While the problem continues to grow.

[lonewolf]

And the Neville Chamberlains of the world are still trying to find diplomatic solutions. While the problem continues to grow.

This is an observation that I can greatly appreciate. I'd like to add that if our country can no longer stomach a relatively small police action like the one in Iraq, how can we possibly deal with the much larger problems looming just around the corner?

[RobTheDrummer]

And the Neville Chamberlains of the world are still trying to find diplomatic solutions. While the problem continues to grow.

This is an observation that I can greatly appreciate. I'd like to add that if our country can no longer stomach a relatively small police action like the one in Iraq, how can we possibly deal with the much larger problems looming just around the corner?

Both very good points.

[f.sciarrillo]

Good observations and I agree with them. Iran is the problem of most of the problems in the middle east. I agree that pulling them all out at once is a problem. I also do not agree with how it seems that we are doing all the work. How long does it take for a group of people to be trained ??

As for Armageddon and the end of the world, I will only say this:

# And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

# And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

# And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

# And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

# And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

# And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

# And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

# And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth

Whether it is happening now or not is a big mystery, and one that makes a lot of people look towards the clouds. It is written that it will all start in the middle east, Israel will be the attacked by the surrounding nations.

With all that is happening now, one does wonder we are as close as we ever been.

[Baceman Spiff]

Whether it is happening now or not is a big mystery, and one that makes a lot of people look towards the clouds. It is written that it will all start in the middle east, Israel will be the attacked by the surrounding nations.

With all that is happening now, one does wonder we are as close as we ever been.

Im not saying it is armageddon. It seems everytime there been a major war for the past century or so, some group cries "end times". My point was the little mad man (sound familliar?) running Iran, believes its his destiny to start armageddon. How do you negotiate with someone like that?

[Baceman Spiff]

. With all that is happening now, one does wonder we are as close as we ever been.

If Israel elects a really popular leader...then I'll get nervous.