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the nazis also cured lots of diseases.... by experimenting on jews and whatnot.

no doubt the nazis can be credited with a lot, but only with a very "the end justifies the mean" type of attitude.
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bassist_25 wrote:
AtoMikEnRtiA wrote:im sorry, are we on public record defending nazis? hahaha
LOL

No, I'm not a fan of the Nazis. I'm just illustrating that commenting that the Nazis had eugenics programs has no relevance to the argument of whether eugenics is good or bad. If that were the case, then let's not fly in jet planes. Besides, America use to have quite the eugenics program.
that reminds me of Office Space

"you know the nazis had pieces of flair they made the jews wear!"

funny, but pretty silly.
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MeYatch wrote:the nazis also cured lots of diseases.... by experimenting on jews and whatnot.

no doubt the nazis can be credited with a lot, but only with a very "the end justifies the mean" type of attitude.
yeah. Mel Gibson will tell you the nazis liquidated the jewish population from 60 percent of europe to under 40 or so percent..

mahmood ahmadinejad will tell you the nazis forced the jews to leave europe and head back to the middle east..

to them, the ends justify the means...

but aside from the atrocities of the holocaust, it can be said the nazis weren't that bad for modern technology and economics.. i credit hitler for ending the great depression moreso than roosevelt, simply because roosevelt followed the pattern hitler created of "building a war machine to create jobs"...
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AtoMikEnRtiA wrote:but aside from the atrocities of the holocaust, it can be said the nazis weren't that bad for modern technology and economics.. i credit hitler for ending the great depression moreso than roosevelt, simply because roosevelt followed the pattern hitler created of "building a war machine to create jobs"...
Yes, in a very "throw common decency out the window" way of looking at things. I also think Hitler had a lot of qualities that are desireable in a leader.
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Everyone should breed. As unlikely as it seems, Bubba the Bonehead could be walking around with the gene that could save humanity from some super disease or enviromental factor that could develop in the future. If you cut his nuts off you kill the human race. Nature works in a very screwed up sort of way.
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Hitler was a paranoid madman, who was bought and paid for by German industrialists. When he finally became insane enough to think that he could run the German "war machine" is when Germany started to lose the war. He charisma and being a fantastic public speaker are the only two things you look for in a leader then yeah I can see why you would think he was a good leader.
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This is a personal observation and I have no facts to back this up.

I have noticed that people of higher intelligence tend to have fewer childred than those of lesser intelligence. Very seldom do you see highly intelligent couples with more than 2 children but its not uncommon to see the less intellegent couples with 4 or 5 children. Again there plenty of exceptions out there.
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MeYatch wrote:Yes, in a very "throw common decency out the window" way of looking at things. I also think Hitler had a lot of qualities that are desireable in a leader.
you wouldn't think I'd have to repeat myself within a couple hours, but I believe I said he had "qualities" of a good leader. Not that he was a good leader.
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I had a liberal teacher in college. She told us to never give money to those things. Said it's nature's way of controlling the population. (ala natural selection) If you are poor and can't grow food and all that, how did you make it this far, and why haven't you migrated?
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holy shit someone got back to the point at hand 8)
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RobTheDrummer wrote:I had a liberal teacher in college. She told us to never give money to those things. Said it's nature's way of controlling the population. (ala natural selection) If you are poor and can't grow food and all that, how did you make it this far, and why haven't you migrated?
That's the old Sam Kinison bit about how you can't plant food in sand.

"Get out of the desert! GET OUT OF THE DESERT! We have deserts in America, we just don't live in them, assholes!"
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People on welfare should not be allowed to fuck, period.

They should have to wear a cockring or something that alarms the government when they're even trying. Who cares about IQ as long as they're not sponging off the system, trying to get a raise by having one more dependant. If Dumb people weren't allowed to fuck most of us wouldn't be here.
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slink wrote:This is a personal observation and I have no facts to back this up.

I have noticed that people of higher intelligence tend to have fewer childred than those of lesser intelligence. Very seldom do you see highly intelligent couples with more than 2 children but its not uncommon to see the less intellegent couples with 4 or 5 children. Again there plenty of exceptions out there.
Actually, there is a correlation between intelligence and number of offspring.

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DirtySanchez wrote:People on welfare should not be allowed to fuck, period.

They should have to wear a cockring or something that alarms the government when they're even trying. Who cares about IQ as long as they're not sponging off the system, trying to get a raise by having one more dependant. If Dumb people weren't allowed to fuck most of us wouldn't be here.
Sort of along those lines, we've got a problem with overflowing prison populations. Why don't we offer people reduced sentences if they agree to get sterilized? People would line up for that. Hell, they'd be knocking off a Sheetz just to get a free snip.

On the topic of having fewer children, it really does seem that countries with low birth rates have a lot going for them. Look at Japan, or Scandinavia. Outrageous life expectancy, high standard of living . . . and shrinking populations.
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It would be nice to say good by to high unemployment rates and get some of my tax money back. And when I would retire it would be great to actually get the social security I pay into every week.

How about this: I here by propose that anyone who gets snipped for the better of the nation no longer pays taxes! How about that? Maybe that is pushing it. How about just a tax break of even a few percent?

Who do I send this shit to ta get it passed ? :lol:
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SuffrInLys wrote:It would be nice to say good by to high unemployment rates and get some of my tax money back. And when I would retire it would be great to actually get the social security I pay into every week.
If there are less offspring of our generation, you are less likely to get the social security you pay into. Social security recipiants are paid by the working people.
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Blain wrote:
RobTheDrummer wrote:I had a liberal teacher in college. She told us to never give money to those things. Said it's nature's way of controlling the population. (ala natural selection) If you are poor and can't grow food and all that, how did you make it this far, and why haven't you migrated?
That's the old Sam Kinison bit about how you can't plant food in sand.

"Get out of the desert! GET OUT OF THE DESERT! We have deserts in America, we just don't live in them, assholes!"
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but i get your point, blain.. nicely done :lol:
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MeYatch wrote:
SuffrInLys wrote:It would be nice to say good by to high unemployment rates and get some of my tax money back. And when I would retire it would be great to actually get the social security I pay into every week.
If there are less offspring of our generation, you are less likely to get the social security you pay into. Social security recipiants are paid by the working people.
not when half of them are sucking the shit out of unemployment benefits and then others are collecting because of things such as.. i.e. i am an alcoholic and/or a drug addict and i can't work now support me.. less people means less pay out to all the programs that support them equals more money back to us
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social security is its own program, and functions as I described it above.
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th money all comes from the same place
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not in the eyes of government accountants
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kissmydagoass wrote:When he finally became insane enough to think that he could run the German "war machine" is when Germany started to lose the war.
So uh, invading Russia in the middle of the Winter had NOTHING to do with it?!?!

damn... now they gotta re-write all the history books.. who's going to fund that?!
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