If Bush cares, why isn't he helping Dar fur refugees ?

[Hawk]

Do you know about Dar fur ?

Hundreds of refugees are killed daily by Sudanese military. Bush is friends with the Sudan Government. So I guess the killing is OK. Besides , it wouldn't keep oil prices high like the war in Iraq does.

Now where is the daily news at ?

Where do you stand ?

Why do you think Bush isn't doing ANYTHING about it ?

[mjb]

he really seems to not know anything. maybe he really desn't know.

[Bert|Evil]

Darfur has been in the news for some time. Ironically, the people who blast the war on terrorism also want us to do something about Darfur.

If we folded in Iraq and occupied the Sudan, would you be happy?

[Hawk]

Darfur has been in the news for some time. Ironically, the people who blast the war on terrorism also want us to do something about Darfur.

If we folded in Iraq and occupied the Sudan, would you be happy?

While you'd like to think that about me, the answer is, one should have been handled diplomatically and the other SHOULD be handled diplomatically.

One was overkill and lost too many US lives. The other is (with the exception of some food and that type of minor aid) is being ignored by the White House.

You failed to see the point, likely on purpose. One reason Bush started the war was because Hussein killed his own people. But Bush seems to be OK with the Sudanese killing people.

You see , that's called irony.

[Merge]

We can't help everyone, nor should we have to. We have plenty of homeless people here that need to be taken care of. It's time for the USA to stop being the world police.

[RobTheDrummer]

We tried the diplomatic approach with Saddam about 1000 times. Always the same answer. Funny thing is, he would still be in power if he would have just let the inspectors in.

[bassist_25]

We can't help everyone, nor should we have to. We have plenty of homeless people here that need to be taken care of. It's time for the USA to stop being the world police.

I agree 100%

Unfortunately, helping down-and-out nations usually doesn't involve an altrustic agenda. There's always some kind of political gain behind it. Helping out our own homeless people won't influence global politics.

[Merge]

That's true, bassist_25. I guess there has to some international pat on the back for anything to happen. BTW, has anyone noticied how poorly we get treated by the UN?? We pay almost 70% of their yearly budget, I think it's time to start withholding some of that money.

[Hawk]

We tried the diplomatic approach with Saddam about 1000 times. Always the same answer. Funny thing is, he would still be in power if he would have just let the inspectors in.

Rob, wake up. He did let the inspectors in. They didn't find anything. The diplomatic approach was working as he got rid of WMD like he was told to do .

[Hawk]

Rob. Did you read this ?
http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

[Punkinhead]

We can't help everyone, nor should we have to. We have plenty of homeless people here that need to be taken care of. It's time for the USA to stop being the world police.

Yeah but, that won't happen. Like has been already said, what's to gain by helping our own people? Just, you know, helping our own people but, since when does that shit really matter? (*Sarcasm*)

[bassist4life2004]

we should pull our troops back to the US, block off our borders, let all these countrys duke it out and starve to death without our aid. of course im shitfaced right now so this really isnt where i stand on this/

[Capt. Grammar]

we should pull our troops back to the US, block off our borders, let all these countrys duke it out and starve to death without our aid. of course im shitfaced right now so this really isnt where i stand on this/

This is some very poor grammar, but I will let it slide on the basis that you are drunk.

[lonewolf]

Do you know about Dar fur ?

Hundreds of refugees are killed daily by Sudanese military. Bush is friends with the Sudan Government. So I guess the killing is OK. Besides , it wouldn't keep oil prices high like the war in Iraq does.

Now where is the daily news at ?

Where do you stand ?

Why do you think Bush isn't doing ANYTHING about it ?

Its not up to Bush to do anything about it. The U.S. does not concern itself with the internal affairs of others unless they pose an impending threat to the U.S. or its allies or the U.N. first makes an issue out of it. I don't see much activity from the U.N.

The Sudan did not invade a neighboring country, causing U.N. attention that resulted in a U.N. coalition de-occupation war. The ensuing cease-fire tied up significant numbers of US and British troops to babysit the no-fly zones. Iraq was an agressor on an ally. The Sudan is not.

There is no irony here because there is no comparison between the subjects. Maybe if The Sudan would occupy Egypt?

[lonewolf]

This was the result of contact bounce on my mouse button!

[Hawk]

Do you know about Dar fur ?

Hundreds of refugees are killed daily by Sudanese military. Bush is friends with the Sudan Government. So I guess the killing is OK. Besides , it wouldn't keep oil prices high like the war in Iraq does.

Now where is the daily news at ?

Where do you stand ?

Why do you think Bush isn't doing ANYTHING about it ?

Its not up to Bush to do anything about it. The U.S. does not concern itself with the internal affairs of others unless they pose an impending threat to the U.S. or its allies or the U.N. first makes an issue out of it. I don't see much activity from the U.N.

The Sudan did not invade a neighboring country, causing U.N. attention that resulted in a U.N. coalition de-occupation war. The ensuing cease-fire tied up significant numbers of US and British troops to babysit the no-fly zones. Iraq was an agressor on an ally. The Sudan is not.

There is no irony here because there is no comparison between the subjects. Maybe if The Sudan would occupy Egypt?

Husien did not pose a threat to us, so why are we there ?

[Banned]

Does anyone take time to consider who is causing the trouble in Sudan? It is militant Islams. Hmmmmm so you want us to get involved with aggresive murdering Islamic people. Isn't that what all you liberals hate about about Bush in Iraq now????????

Anyone smell hypocracy?

[lonewolf]

Husien did not pose a threat to us, so why are we there ?

Huh? Ask Kuwait if Iraq was a threat to them. The Gulf War is hard evidence that aggressor Iraq was a direct threat to the U.S. and its allies before the present war. Also, Iraq was a major supporter of various anti-US terrorist groups who are now better trained and equipped than al Quaida. The possibility that they might arm these terrorists with chemical or biological weapons (hopefully, Saddam destroyed these as opposed to shipping them to Syria) was a distinct threat.

I'd like to take this opportunity to inform Bush-haters that there are other, better prepared terrorists than al Quaida to worry about today. Iraq was instrumental in preparing many of them.

I don't know what this exclusive fixation Bush haters have with bin laden and al Quaida. We are at war with ALL anti-US terrorists and Iraq was a major supporter of terrorists.

BTW, The Sudan is no friend of the U.S.

[tornandfrayed]

Does any of this matter or is it just enough to "divide and conquer? the American People? Any of you want to run for congress? Good luck and 3 million dollars!

Guess what the joke is on us! Could be iraq, could be france, could be the Sudan, could be malibu, the truth is that our Government does not work!

Our government does not represent us! But as long as we are busy fighting amongst ourselves we are beaten. We have to do what we have to do to support ourselves and our loved ones and in the process we are too busy to really care about it other then to argue with each other!

I hate Bush, I hate Democrats, I hate Liberals and conservatives equally! I hate apathy, I hate politics because they have turned the meaning of your life into their own self serving venom!

I hate them all when they use a stupid ass labels to define what they are and what they stand for in this life!

What is the Truth? Is it that when we die we are done, if so then don't you want to have done something extra ordinary before you die or are you content to have fed the machine?

If we die and we ascend to the pearly gates and tell St Peter that we worked for 40 years at burlington and argued with democrats on Rockpage what do you suppose he is going to think?

The point being that we are the strength of this country, we do the work (when we use to have work) and we make the wheels move, the Politicians are making a sweet living off of your labor! As long as we perceive the fight to be with someone other then our own government (ie, democrats, republicans, terrorists, talking elmo) we are defeated!

Go figure! ANalyze me!

[lonewolf]

But Dave, Bill and I love arguing about this stuff. Besides being fun, its therapeutical.

[Hawk]

But Dave, Bill and I love arguing about this stuff. Besides being fun, its therapeutical.

Gotta love ya man !

Not to mention that I DO learn from you and other knowledgeable posters. Whether I agree or not, I do continue to learn.

[RobTheDrummer]

Rob. Did you read this ?
http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

Yea, I'm gonna be a sheep and believe everything I see from a complete anti-bush, liberal website.

[Hawk]

Rob. Did you read this ?
http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

Yea, I'm gonna be a sheep and believe everything I see from a complete anti-bush, liberal website.

Sorry, but that was all true.

[bfoust]

Any one else should we should invade Sudan and setup a democracy?

[RobTheDrummer]

Rob. Did you read this ?
http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

Yea, I'm gonna be a sheep and believe everything I see from a complete anti-bush, liberal website.

Sorry, but that was all true.

It's skewed.