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I wonder, does anyone here see the importance of a movie director? I was listening to Tom Hanks talk about how he wrote and co directed the movie CASTAWAY.

He talked for a long time on ACCURACY of situation. It was interesting to hear him talk about how he did REWRITES to the film scrip before it was actually crystalized. The reason he said was THE CHARACTER WAS NOT ACCURATE.

He said IF ONE IS STRANDED ON A BEACH by himself, AT WHAT POINT does the character START TO TALK TO HIMSELF. Now I'm not talking the occasional
conversation to oneself of " OH BROTHER, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING TO ME" I am talking about CARRYING A CONVERSATION.

The director in Tom Hanks started to rewrite long before the scrip was finished. He started to notice things like

1 This character is too talkative to himself the minute he lands on the island. This comes off like he really isnt stranded, like there is someone else there, and UNBUYABLE


The BRILLIANCE of the movie castaway lies within the fact of ITS ACCURACY. The way the film doesn't have much dialog through the first half of the movie. Only when it reaches the half way point does he start to talk to himself more and more. He even CREATES A COCONUT FRIEND that he talks to himself. HENCE CRAVING COMPANIONSHIP.


Do we all get what Castaway was about, ABSOLUTELY. But Tom Hanks DID NOT STOP THERE. He wanted the film to be EXECUTED ACCURATELY

That my friends is what I am teaching in songwriting to most of you, WHO FAIL TO SEE THAT.

What I am saying to you is this

1 Dont worry about money and how much someone makes, Britney Spears is a prime example. She makes loads of money but her songs are cliche and fluff

2 Don't worry about hits, GREAT SONGS WILL BE NUMBER ONE, HOOOOWEVER, NOT ALL NUMBER ONE SONGS ARE GREAT

3Don' t worry about fame and thinking that is what credibility is. The person who is famous and says 2+2= 6 IS WRONG. The no name person who says the answer is 4 will be right.

The problem is you people don't look WHO IS AT THE TOP. IT is BUSINESS MEN, NOT MUSICIANS. What do they know about ACCURACY, MEANING, MUSICIANSHIP, ETC. This is why Britney spears is number one and famous. Because business men who think with their dicks and not their ARTISTIC EYE.

I have to laugh you will listen to a RECORD EXE when he tells you your song is great. The record exe is a business major who never played music in his life. The guy knows nothing about it. Yet you will listen to him.

Now I come along and say, your lyric contains such and such flaws like, LYRICAL TIME FRAME PROBLEM, A CHARACTER FLAW, UNBUYABLE STORY, etc and you all think I am crazy. However, I majored in SONGWRITING FROM BERKLEE COLLEGE OF MUSIC

IF you want to take the advice of a NON MUSICIAN go right ahead. You will have a song that is shown to the world YOUR IGNORANCE AND LACK OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL. ( that is what I call selling out)
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S H U T T H E H E L L UP A L R E A D Y ! !
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We are all challenged and refreshed by your unique perspective......................................................
Now you can GO AWAY

The Horse is dead!!!! stop kicking it, NO ONE Cares about your degree, let alone the fact that you present yourself as an expert, but refuse to put your 'ART" out for criticism by the same people you are preaching to .

bye
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You type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type, and type but you're not saying a damn thing of any value. You suck!
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that record executive is setting up an artist's multi-million dollar bank account. Is the music major doing that? I will continue to write music for the rest of my life, hopefully, but I want to do it for a living. That opinion of the record executive is what will make or break that possibility. Sorry, but you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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Hmm, you majored in composition at Berklee, your typing style sounds soooooooooo elementary, your name is MetalRules (80's Metal?) and you have an elitist attitude because of your education. Can I ask you one question? Do you think we are all misogynist?
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bassist_25 wrote:Hmm, you majored in composition at Berklee, your typing style sounds soooooooooo elementary, your name is MetalRules (80's Metal?) and you have an elitist attitude because of your education. Can I ask you one question? Do you think we are all misogynist?
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I think b_25 may be onto something here....... :wink:
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I, too, am starting to feel "The Ween" go all turtle back up inside... creepy, huh!----->JMS
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Damn Bassist_25 - You beat me to it!!
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I've never watched Castaway, generally, if there isn't a shitload of violence, like a vampire flick or something of the sorts or an action flick, I dont care to watch, just not entertaining...although comedy is great too, you can never beat something that makes you laugh....then there is the occassional love movie that has some sick twist, i like that too...oh yeah and the movies with lots of nudity, those are great....and umm, let me think...but castaway ive never scene


Oh yes, my point...

you are so redundant...just like my movies paragraph...you don't have to leave but, shut the hell up on this and talk about something else

ron, there is no need for this thread in my opinion...its the same repetitive bullshit thats going on in another, so can i ask everyone for a vote to delete this thread?
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So in otherwords pumpkin head YOUR LIMITED IN WHAT YOU LIKE

You remind me of these bubble gum pricks who just think BRITNEY SPEARS is the greatest singer of our generation.

Your so limited
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metalrules wrote:So in otherwords pumpkin head YOUR LIMITED IN WHAT YOU LIKE

You remind me of these bubble gum pricks who just think BRITNEY SPEARS is the greatest singer of our generation.

Your so limited

Ok, bigmouth...I was only making a point about your redundancy but, now

If you play guitar, I will show you how limited I am in what I like...I offer your bigmouthed ass a challenge if you're a player....TIME TO CUT HEADS BITCH, pick a time and a place, its on...put your money where your mouth is motherfucker....
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buddy learn how to play WALKING BASS LINES UNDER CHORD CHANGES, learn how to CHORD SOLO WITH THE MELODY

Infact play a Db9 chord in at least five different places.

Oh what, YOU GONNA SHREAD ME TO DEATH WITH METAL LICKS.

Buddy you and the others here DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOOD.

YOu could play fast shreading licks that don't make sense and seem to hang in the air melodically without understanding resolution

and

I could pull out a simple baby version of SKYLARK and harmonize it (playing the chords and the melody at the same time) and you would think you are better

Thats right jerk off, i have the ability to look at a kiddy big note version of Skylark and harmonize it right on the spot as I play.

Would that impress you? Probably not. Again, it takes an educated musician to know what great playing is

I could look at your wild agressive NEBULOUS soloing and say" you are riding too many non chord tones and your not resovling at any point" Plus there is no strong melody in your soloin'

WOULD YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT? PRobably not
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Yeah I would...

and all i hear is you not having any confidence in your ability against me...
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Don't mistaken CONFIDENCE with LACK OF TRUST

I have confidence in what I do and what I know. I do not have confidence in meeting you.

judging by how you are acting like a whinny baby, you strike me as the type of person who would call up his friends, who will lie and wait in the bushes ready to jump someone.

I not only do not like you, I distrust you

2nd off, like I have stated before, YOUR LACK of respect towards music education allows me to think you're a liar
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metalrules wrote: I not only do not like you, I distrust you
its mutual

metalrules wrote:2nd off, like I have stated before, YOUR LACK of respect towards music education allows me to think you're a liar
whatever, ive offered to show you
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Tyroon, is your caps lock key broken? Just curious as to the all caps. No offense, but all caps is kinda lame.
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HOLD ON METAL RULES! I want to be the one in the bushes! I want to have all my buddies jumping your sorry ass! I want to be the one who finally shuts your big mouth once and for all!!! After Punkinhead shreds you on guitar the rest of us will shred you period!!! I'm so sick of hearing your damn mouth running that I would only prey that you make a visit to Altoona! You'd spend the next week shitting your teeth out!!! When is enough gonna be enough, not only is this dick ripping on every successful artist but now he's starting to attack us personally! Metal rules, the only box you're gonna end up in is one made of wood!!!! Bring it on YOU DICK!
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He won't come out from hiding behind his screen name. Hell, I have some free time, I've been PMing this bastard to get an address to meet up to give him a lesson on music and a good lesson on life. No response, I guess he doesn't want to face the real deal, only from his computer chair. I'm sure it wouldn't do his ego much good anyway.

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I am trying to figure out everyone’s ages here. That always interests me, when ADULTS talk about PUNCHING ONES TEETH OUT, I WILL BE SHITTING TEETH, MY ASS WILL BE KICKED, I WILL SHREAD YOU LITERALLY, etc

Is everyone over 21 here. How many of you here are 30 plus?

I have never talked on this board about kicking ones ass or punching their teeth out.

The thing I find funny is most of you talk about non-censorship. Yet the minute I say something I have all of you jumping down my ass telling me to stop posting. This is a free board right? All I did was just post lessons from the get go. I never said to you people YOU HAVE TO DO IT. I am just telling you guys that THE MUSIC INDUSTRY ISN’T THE WAY YOU THINK IT IS.

These so called artist are NOT LARGER THAN LIFE, just LUCKY

To test my theory, I want you to ask yourself, CAN YOU PLAY A SONG LIKE ERUPTION by Eddie Van Halen. Can you at least BUTCHER your way through the song? How about this, can you at least noodle with fast lick solos and do tapping techniques.

If you answered YES to the above question, then most likely YOU ARE BETTER than B.B king. You are better than Angus Young. You are better than Tony Iommi, etc

B.B king CAN’T EVEN play chords. All he does is play the blues scale. Angus young never gets past the pentatonic scale. At best he can hammeron and pull off, but he can’t tap like eddie.

Most of you people here have EVOLVED in guitar, where most of the so called stars HAVEN’T. Angus is where he is at a CERTAIN LEVEL, and HE HAS NOT PROGRESSED.

What I am trying to make you people learn here that YOU ARE NOT MORTALS and B.B king is some god. B.B and Angus and Iommi ALL HAVE LIMITATIONS.

The point that I am making is QUESTION AND CHALLENGE the so called stars. 90 percent of them are famous because THEY ARE LUCKY AND AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME, not because they are genius guitar players

I don’t know about you , but when a guitar player CAN’T EVEN PLAY ONE CHORD, like B.B king THAT PISSES ME OFF. Here is a guy who admits to the world, HE CAN’T PLAY A CHORD, and he has a record deal?

I am willing to bet my life, EVERY guitar player who is fighting me right now, IS BETTER than B.B king

You people better wake the hell up here and realize these SO CALLED FAMOUS GODS, AIN’T GODS
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Ok jerkoff, 1) I'm 31, obviously an adult. 2) I have seen the inside of the industry (at least as much as I wanted to!) Oh yea, it wasn't my lack of talent that stopped me from a recording contract ..... IT WAS ME who decided it was something I DIDN"T WANT TO DO! For nearly the last 10 years I have spent the majority of that time touring professionally throughout most of this country. Anyone who knows me knows which two bands I have been in and where and when we toured! I have recorded several independent cd's, carried on meetings with the "big wigs" in NYC more times than I can remember, showcased, and shared the stage with everyone from VANILLA ICE (yes I did and proud of it!), Fuel, 7 Mary 3, Clutch, Mushroomhead, and fucking Kansas just to name a few! I have seen friends of mine and former tour buddies make it big like fuel, breaking bengamin, lifer, etc. and I am very proud of EVERYTHING I have accomplished as a musician!

Don't even try to judge me or put me down. What in the bloody hell have you done???!!! Anyone who knows me will tell you I am a down to earth guy, but when some asshole like you comes out of the blue and questions me than I'm gonna let you have it!

I know what it's like to have to share one cigarette with 6 guys cause you're not making enough on tour to buy your own, I know what it's like to never sleep, play in front of people who never heard you, and just wish to Christ that you were back home! YOU NEVER HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ME, BELITTLE ME, or TALK SHIT ON ME UNTIL YOU CAN SAY YOU'VE DONE HALF OF IT!!!

Freedom of speech is not getting on here insulting people! You are judgemental and self rightous and that's why people like me want to strangle the life out of you!

What in the fuck gives you the right to say one damn thing about B.B., Jimi, Kurt, or any of us on this board?

You don't get it that people aren't insulting your knowledge about music...they're insulting you as a person because your are the biggest dick whoever posted anything on here!!! I am done wasting my time posting to this asshole! If we all ignore him, maybe he will go away!

I HOPE YOU DIE SOON!
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Post by Banned »

? wake up drumming?

I questioned your ability?
I insulted you personally?


You took the liberty of telling me all that you have done, YET I DIDNT ASK? Actually I have never even asked what you have done.

What I am saying wake up drumming is THAT YOOOOOOOU, understand this YOOOOOOOOOOU like the other musicians in here AREEEEEEEEE BEEEEETTTTTTER than probably 80% of the so called famous big gods.


I am not sure why you OR the others are questioning your ability to me? As if I down played you personally

I came on here and started talking about FAMOUS PEOPLE and how they are not cracked up as they think they are.

All my few comments directed at someone personally here, are RESPONSES.

I never came to this site saying YOU ALL SUCK, YOU CAN'T PLAY GUITAR, BLAH BLAH, BLAH

What I said was people like B.B king and ANgus young are not as good as you think THEY ARE.
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