What is an American?

[Banned]

As my daughter says, "if he was really serious, he'd join the Marines". We know a young Marine in the Infantry by the name of Tony Ballance, who graduated with my oldest boy and was sent immediately to Iraq. Also, as my daughter said, "a what's in it for ME Liberal? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! It's a what's in it for ME Conservative!"




Okay, so NOW we're staying in Iraq due to terrorists? They're all there now because we're still there, and guess what, we have Domestic Terrorists (No, I won't let anyone forget the Murrah Building in OK.), and there are terrorists everywhere the world over. So, what are we supposed to do, invade country after country just like members of that "New American Century" cartel want? I for one don't THINK so. I agree, we can't just up and instantly leave Iraq with no Troop prescence there. We've made it a mess, but we can bring the majority home. Other countries need to become involved pronto...more European countries and other close in proximity, Oil-glutted countries are the ones who should help first, in any and all ways. That is, unless the powers that be in the United States have a problem with any other countries being involved in stabilizing and re-building Iraq.




What happened to ending our addiction to Oil and the Alternative Fuels mentioned in the State of The Union Address? Oh, I see, the major problem facing our Country now is illegal Immigration. I realize it's a small start, but a huge Ethanol factory is supposed to be built in Schuylkill County, at least that was on the front page of the local newspaper roughly a month ago, wonderful news! We're not so "addicted to Oil", the Oil Barrons are "addicted to MONEY"...and I can't believe the Oil Companies are still getting TAX BREAKS after record breaking, never before seen in this country, profits. Dubya, Cheney and Co. are all truly crazy like Foxes.

Hats off to a great American, Tony. He volunteered to serve his country and it people like him that are keeping us free to do things like post on this site.

We are a free people because of our military might, in the past, now, and in the future. If our enemies think we are weak, they will attack.

Ar you ever going to admit that practically EVERY leading Democrat politician also said Saddam had WMD and was a threat to use them?????

[RobTheDrummer]

Check out this vid I found...an Arab woman standing up on Al Jazeera. We need more like her!

http://www.wimp.com/opinion/

Makes me have some hope at least.

[Banned]

Check out this vid I found...an Arab woman standing up on Al Jazeera. We need more like her!

http://www.wimp.com/opinion/

Makes me have some hope at least.

That lady has more balls than all of the liberals in Washington DC.

[Ron]

Check out this vid I found...an Arab woman standing up on Al Jazeera. We need more like her!

http://www.wimp.com/opinion/

Makes me have some hope at least.

That lady has more balls than all of the liberals in Washington DC.

That was filmed in Qatar, where women can vote and hold public office.

[FatVin]

First of all what's wrong with being liberal?

You are on this forum becasue the Liberals are fighting to keep the first amendment in tact and keep censorship off of the internet.

Your wife/mother/sister/girlfriend has the right to vote becasue liberals made it happen.

the next time you drink a beer, it was a liberal president who got prohibition repealed.

We have a minimun wage in this state becasue liberals made it happen, it'll go up soon becasue of the Democratic Governor of PA

by the way Eichelberger opposes a Min/wage hike Morris supports it.

If liberal environmentalists don't get at least some of their way, there will soon be no more deer to hunt or no more fish catch in PA.

I'm a liberal and I could give a rat's ass about the children of Iraq but I do care about American kids. I care about the kids, coming home with body parts missing and fucked up heads from combat they saw due to the lies and half truths and fear tactics of an administration that is incompetant and corrupt.

A lot of you are Republican because you are Republican and let's face it you are hopeless, but that's okay we need right-wingers, we need left wingers too. This country has strayed in the past 6 years, it has veered off into some reactionary republican nightmare. We must come back to the left a little, not too far, mind you. but just enough to put us back down the center where we belong.

in November, forget about party labels and partisan rhetoric coming from either side, and actually look at some real issues and what you want PA and the USA to be and where you want it to go. What's best for all us, not just the rich, not just the poor, not just the right, not just the left but what best for the most.

THat's what elections are for.

[skydog]

AMEN,Brother

[RobTheDrummer]

Minimum wage don't mean shit. It means the government is gettin more of your money. And it's only for those who make minimum. What about the people who make say $7.00/hr? Still a shitty ass wage, but you aren't gettin a raise. There's nothing wrong with being liberal, there are just too many whacked out ones out there, same for conservatives. Believe what you believe is right.

[Banned]

First of all what's wrong with being liberal?

You are on this forum becasue the Liberals are fighting to keep the first amendment in tact and keep censorship off of the internet.

Your wife/mother/sister/girlfriend has the right to vote becasue liberals made it happen.

the next time you drink a beer, it was a liberal president who got prohibition repealed.

We have a minimun wage in this state becasue liberals made it happen, it'll go up soon becasue of the Democratic Governor of PA

by the way Eichelberger opposes a Min/wage hike Morris supports it.

If liberal environmentalists don't get at least some of their way, there will soon be no more deer to hunt or no more fish catch in PA.

I'm a liberal and I could give a rat's ass about the children of Iraq but I do care about American kids. I care about the kids, coming home with body parts missing and fucked up heads from combat they saw due to the lies and half truths and fear tactics of an administration that is incompetant and corrupt.

A lot of you are Republican because you are Republican and let's face it you are hopeless, but that's okay we need right-wingers, we need left wingers too. This country has strayed in the past 6 years, it has veered off into some reactionary republican nightmare. We must come back to the left a little, not too far, mind you. but just enough to put us back down the center where we belong.

in November, forget about party labels and partisan rhetoric coming from either side, and actually look at some real issues and what you want PA and the USA to be and where you want it to go. What's best for all us, not just the rich, not just the poor, not just the right, not just the left but what best for the most.

THat's what elections are for.

The First Admendment is still in place because Conservatives and Libertarians fight for the Second Amendment which gives us the power to keep the First alive and well. (most liberal leaders only want guns for their own bodyguards)

I don't think my exwife should have the right to vote because she has no clue what is going on in the world today. (I also believe a new amendment should be made allowing only taxpayers to be able to vote)

I don't drink, but believe that adulsts should do whatever as long as if does not directly harm others. That is the Libertarian philosophy.

John Eichleberger is against the minimum wage, and that is one of the reasone I voted for him. People should not depend upon the government for their wages. If they want to be paid more, get educated or make yourself more valuable to employers. Improve yourself, do not wait for the government to do everything for you.

It is conservatives and/or hunters who support wildelife management through purchases of very high priced hunting liscenses.

I give a rats ass about the 3000 children and adults that were murdered on 9/11, and am glad we have a president who is fighting terrorits I really think a liberal administration would still have done nothing (just like the Clinton admin did squat about terrorism, hell he even turned down apprehending Bin Ladin when he was offered by the Sudaneese government)

We need a few liberals around to remind us of how they would ruin this country of left unapposed.

[RobTheDrummer]

What ever happened to Democrats like JFK? He said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!" Now why is it that the democrats put together all these damn programs to help illegals and bums and people that don't wanna find a job? Shouldn't these people be doing something to help themselves instead of leeching off of the government? Dems just want the vote and tax dollars. We need some old skool dems or some fiscal conservatives in office. Someone that's gonna be a leader and not take shit from anyone. There's gotta be a great leader somewhere in the US of A!!!

[FatVin]

Excellent question, What did happen to Democrats like JFK? Someobdy shot them.

If you know anything about our history, you know that it was the liberal wing of the founding fathers who fought for the bill of rights that's the first 10 amendmendts by the way.

If you wanna exclude people from voting who don't know anything.....guess who I would nominate.....

UndercoverJoe wrote:

If they want to be paid more, get educated or make yourself more valuable to employers

I couldn't agree more but how can you pay for education if you are working 45 min out of every hour just for the gas it takes to get to work, gotta raise the min wage, gotta make education cheaper and more available, Guess what, that's a thing Government should do.

I get it that a lot of people don't want the government involved in their life, know what, neither do I, but unless you pave your own highways and are prepared to personally defend the America's skies all by yourself (presumabley with a sling shot and a scatter gun) you have to admit that a Government does come in handy from time to time. I have always been in favor of letting Gov't do what it does and keping Gov't out of those things it has no business in.

Ike calls himself a conservative and he voted to raise taxes and increase spending....can you do that and still be a conservative?

Not all hunters are conservatives and if we don't take care of the environment there will be no deer left and therefore no venison roast and if you can count on ol' FatVin for anything it's to vote with my stomach.

What the hell does 9/11 have to do with Iraq, there is no proof of a Saddam/Al Queda connection, there is no proof Iraq had WMD's at the time of the invasion. No proof. besides, Iraq has a government now, Sadamm is on trial, if Iraq had any WMD's (and again there is no proof of that) anyone who knows where they are buried is dead or in jail, mission accomplished let's start bringing our people home.

As to Illegals....oh man I hate to admit this, I actually think ol' W might be on to something.

Liberals unopposed would ruin this country but conservatives have been running things for 6 years and look where we are now....are you better off?

[bassist_25]

I couldn't agree more but how can you pay for education if you are working 45 min out of every hour just for the gas it takes to get to work, gotta raise the min wage, gotta make education cheaper and more available, Guess what, that's a thing Government should do.

God bless the two greatest words in the English language, Pell and Stafford. When people ask me where I stand politically, I usually say that I'm a libertarian, because I pretty much believe in most libertarian values. I'm for the privatization of many things that are otherwise operated by the government; I am for less taxes; I'm for the decriminization of certain drugs, etc. But I'm always a little hesitant to say that I'm a libertarian, becaues I'm not an Objectivist and I don't live in some Nozickian fantasy world (which is the reactive flip side of living in a Marxist fantasy world).

No matter what people on the far right think, you will always need a certain amount of social programs to help stimulate people. Besides, those are injections into the circular flow model that would otherwise not be there. The economy grows with increased spending. Anyways, my point is that I work plus play gigs. I also go to Lock Haven, which is one of the cheapest* four year colleges in the state. There's still no way in hell I would be able to attend without grants and loans. When I'm done with graduate studies, I'm going to be upper-middle class and will be paying a lot more in taxes than I do now. I'm an investment that's going to benefit this economy. I don't have affluent parents, so I have to better myself anyway I can. Some may say that I need to take responsibility for myself and work for it, but believe, I work my ass off for what I want. America's not a meritocracy anyways, unlike how many people would like to believe it to be. If it were, you wouldn't have things like nepotism and affirmative action.

Just some food for thought.

*Keep in mind that since it's a state school, it's already be funding through taxes. Imagine how expensive it would be all universities were private.

[Banned]

All I can say Vin is that George Soros (the real leader of the Socialist Democrat party) and Howard Dean (its mouthpeice) really have you trained well.

JFK's domestic policies had much more in common with Ronald Reagan than any president since. He knew that lowering taxes allows this country and its capitalists systme to flourish.

I would take JFK over W anyday.

[FatVin]

Who the fuck is George Soros? I googled him and I still don't know who he is

Dude, I don't know from what Ultra-right wing nut job website you got your political information but as an elected offical of the Democratic Party (I got voted precinct Captain of Duncansville on Tuesday, 68 votes, woohoo....that a $1.25 gets me a cup of coffee..right) I can tell you that I don't know who George Soros is and Democrats aren't socialists.

as to JFK over W.....I'd take JFK over W in JFK's current condition but that said....( I really resent having to say this twice) W's right about immigration.

You wanna know the real difference between the GOP and the Dems

The GOP thinks that America is the greatest contry in the world and we don't need to change a thing.

The Dems think that America is the greatest country in the world and we can be better still.

That's why I am a Democrat.

[RobTheDrummer]

Back in the day, I would have been a liberal. Nowadays, the libs wanna change the country, but I don't like the direction they wanna go. There are certain things that should be kept the same, and other things that should be changed. The libs wanna change every fuckin thing, just so they benefit from it, not the country in general.

Anyways, here's an American.

[Banned]

Rob, you are just progressing an a free thinking individual.

Winston Churchill is credited with this famous statement (paraphrased):

"If you are not liberal in your youth you do not have a heart.

If you are not a conservative as an adult, you do not have a mind."

I too was a (shudder) democrat when I first voted, mostly because thats what my parents were.

Conservatives (and Libertarians) would rather teach people how to fish so they can become self sufficient.

Liberals would rather feed the people 1 fish a day, make them come back day after day to get thier gomment fish, and remember to vote Democrat once every 4 years.

The Welfare/entitlement system IS the modern day plantation run by big government liberals.