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undercoverjoe wrote: Tokyo Rose, How can you possibly live in this country with all these EVIL conspiracies? I could not agree any more with all of the statements about the Clinton administration.


KOOKY Joe, I can live in this Commonwealth and Country I Love, in much the same way you were able to live here when the "EEEVIL Bill Clinton" was President. You are something else telling those of us who don't agree with Herr Dubya, et al, to go to Canada...besides, who made you in charge of Deportation? :D
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I have a friend who will remain nameless, an older and VERY trustworthy veteran, who was actually in the air control tower at the Guard airbase in Johnstown when 93 went down. They had a visual on it at one point, and when it went below the horizon, it went off radar. No fighter jets, at least none that showed on radar.
The passengers of 93 knew about the World Trade Center towers from phone calls, and they felt they were going to die anyway. I don't think they just sat back and waited for the ground to swallow them. Like the EMS people at the WTC, I don't think they fully realized the gravity of everything (like everyone in the country they were in shock), but they did what they felt was needed, so to me, they're heroes.
BTW, The Pentagon is a pentagon for good reason. It's based on cannon batteries of a bygone era... five walls are not only stronger laterally because each wall is shorter and joining angles are less, but visibilty from the corners (where the cannons would sit) is also improved. The narrow open courtyards inside one another would allow blast waves to dissipate out into the air instead of through the building. One could also assume that the building housing the Military Central Command of a world superpower would be made of a stout material.
Let's face it, a bunch of whackjobs caught us with our panties down. I can't and won't believe our government would wag a dog that big, I don't believe they turned the gun on their own people. Even Bin Laden admitted the the towers falling wasn't planned, just an unexpected "benefit." Now, how this relates to Iraq? Weeeeellllllll... :wink: ------>JMS
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Jumbo Jets leave wreckage.
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There was wreckage, they found the visa of the one highjacker in there. The plane hit the ground at over 500 mph.

Maybe it was shot down...some guy from Somerset on Howard Stern...however credible that is..

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap ... ight93.htm
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YankeeRose wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote: Tokyo Rose, How can you possibly live in this country with all these EVIL conspiracies? I could not agree any more with all of the statements about the Clinton administration.


KOOKY Joe, I can live in this Commonwealth and Country I Love, in much the same way you were able to live here when the "EEEVIL Bill Clinton" was President. You are something else telling those of us who don't agree with Herr Dubya, et al, to go to Canada...besides, who made you in charge of Deportation? :D
I'm not the one in love with whack job Neil Young's politics. You are, so, if you like him so much, I am inviting you to go live with whackos much like yourself. Strange that you say you love this country when you hate everything good about it. (Conservative values, capitalism, freedom)

You now I think W is more of a liberal (EVIL) than even Clinton as far as federal spending goes. But I do give him credit for fighting terrorism. And I sure am glad that war is not being fought on Plank Road. It is being fought in Iraq and Afganistan at this moment. You hate Bush because he is leading the fight on terrorism.
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I believe that 9-11 is the best thing that ever happened to the Bush administration. I don't buy into the theory that 9-11 was orchestrated by the American government. I listen to Coast to Coast on my way home from gigs, but I don't believe the myriad of whack jobs that are guests on the show.

Besides, everyone knows that if any secret agency was behind the attacks, it would be the Illuminati. :D
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...or the Apparati!! Haha!!
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Big Jim wrote:...or the Apparati!! Haha!!
oh christ, lets just hope the VY kids dont read into this the wrong way..

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I'm waiting for Oliver Stone to release his theory. I don't believe there was a conspiracy at all. I feel that bush used 9/11 as an excuse to go into Iraq. I also feel Iraq is a diversion from anything relating to the search of Bin Laden.

We all know why Bush went into Iraq though: OIL ... Plain and simple.
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undercoverjoe wrote: I'm not the one in love with whack job Neil Young's politics. You are, so, if you like him so much, I am inviting you to go live with whackos much like yourself. Strange that you say you love this country when you hate everything good about it. (Conservative values, capitalism, freedom)

You now I think W is more of a liberal (EVIL) than even Clinton as far as federal spending goes. But I do give him credit for fighting terrorism. And I sure am glad that war is not being fought on Plank Road. It is being fought in Iraq and Afganistan at this moment. You hate Bush because he is leading the fight on terrorism.


Conservative "values"? HA! Capitalism? I'm personally not greedy, nor a Capitalist, never have been, never will be. "Money can't buy me Love." ...or health. Freedom? Most people have no clue just how much Dubya and Co. are trying to strip our Freedom. Conservatives are MORE corrupt than Democrats, just LOOK at all of the scandals, indictments, etc., plaguing these 2 Administrations for your proof...and then there are the crimes that are IMPEACHABLE.
I posted www.impeachbush.org long before I ever heard about Neil Young's new tune. That does not make me a traitor, nor a terrorist, both of which you've called me in the past. Joe, you are the one who it seems is filled with almost palpable hatred. That insipid hatred seems directed toward anyone who does not agree with the status quo, or toward Bill Clinton, who you once said you would gladly shoot. I suppose it also includes Hillary - heck, anyone who is NOT Conservative, for that matter. As much as I do believe the current Administration is inherently evil, power and money hungry, my fervent wish is for them to leave office asap. I feel truly sorry for you. What's very odd, is you try and say you're a Libertarian, yet you sing the praises of "Conservative Values". Another thread bites the dust.




(f.sciarillo, I don't know if we'll ever know all that happened, but I could believe that. The Bush and Bin Laden family connection actually goes back for several generations. Yes, we invaded Iraq for the Oil and also for the profits certain hand-picked Corporations stood to make from reconstruction after we bombed the ever-loving hell out of it. There was no need to decimate Iraq.)
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RobTheDrummer wrote:Even if I'm ignorant about it, it makes me feel good to think that there are actually people out there that take other's lives before their own.
That's cool, it should make you feel good — when I think of what the passengers of all four planes went through that day, it humbles me and I salute them and will always honor them for their bravery.

However, make sure your eyes are open wide enough to realize that this administration wants to use those "good feelings" as a propoganda tool to push this war forward into places like Iran. The right's push for all Americans to see "United 93" sickens me in that Shuster and others are stating the movie should serve as a reminder of why we're in Iraq.

As songsmith pointed out, this war we're waging has nothing to do with 9/11 or the heroes who perished that day ...

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YankeeRose wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote: I'm not the one in love with whack job Neil Young's politics. You are, so, if you like him so much, I am inviting you to go live with whackos much like yourself. Strange that you say you love this country when you hate everything good about it. (Conservative values, capitalism, freedom)

You now I think W is more of a liberal (EVIL) than even Clinton as far as federal spending goes. But I do give him credit for fighting terrorism. And I sure am glad that war is not being fought on Plank Road. It is being fought in Iraq and Afganistan at this moment. You hate Bush because he is leading the fight on terrorism.


Conservative "values"? HA! Capitalism? I'm personally not greedy, nor a Capitalist, never have been, never will be. "Money can't buy me Love." ...or health. Freedom? Most people have no clue just how much Dubya and Co. are trying to strip our Freedom. Conservatives are MORE corrupt than Democrats, just LOOK at all of the scandals, indictments, etc., plaguing these 2 Administrations for your proof...and then there are the crimes that are IMPEACHABLE.
I posted www.impeachbush.org long before I ever heard about Neil Young's new tune. That does not make me a traitor, nor a terrorist, both of which you've called me in the past. Joe, you are the one who it seems is filled with almost palpable hatred. That insipid hatred seems directed toward anyone who does not agree with the status quo, or toward Bill Clinton, who you once said you would gladly shoot. I suppose it also includes Hillary - heck, anyone who is NOT Conservative, for that matter. As much as I do believe the current Administration is inherently evil, power and money hungry, my fervent wish is for them to leave office asap. I feel truly sorry for you. What's very odd, is you try and say you're a Libertarian, yet you sing the praises of "Conservative Values". Another thread bites the dust.




(f.sciarillo, I don't know if we'll ever know all that happened, but I could believe that. The Bush and Bin Laden family connection actually goes back for several generations. Yes, we invaded Iraq for the Oil and also for the profits certain hand-picked Corporations stood to make from reconstruction after we bombed the ever-loving hell out of it. There was no need to decimate Iraq.)
Slick Willie Clinton is a traitor to our country. He gave the Communist Chinese the technology to actively target our country with their nuclear warheads. He did this for illegal campaign funds.

Traitors are shot. I just said I would willingly be in the firing squad to shoot that traitor. There is not evidence that she is a traitor. She was not in power, he was, so she cannot be charged. I believe she is an accessory to the crime, but would be hard to prove.

For your own sake, look up what being a Libertarian really means before you show much more of your ignorance. Libertarians and Constitutionalists are very close and want as little government as possible.

No duh you are not a capitalist. Your socialists tendencies betray you.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:There was wreckage, they found the visa of the one highjacker in there. The plane hit the ground at over 500 mph.

Maybe it was shot down...some guy from Somerset on Howard Stern...however credible that is..

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap ... ight93.htm
The plane WAS shot down by two fighters from McGuire AFB, not Andrews AFB.

If you were to follow the line from where they shot (I believe the town is called "New Baltimore" and is very close to I-70) on that day, you would have found PLENTY of debris. In fact, I know someone who has a MSDW monthly statement from that day which was found in the line referenced above, and the name of that account holder checks out with that of a guy on Flight 93. Do I blame the Government for shooting this plane down? Absolutely not!

Also, the FBI and other Government agencies spent a month alone looking for the black box while collecting all of the available wreckage, which they eventually found.
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YankeeRose wrote:"PROJECT For The New American Century"...damn, I always FORGET that word! Somehow, a Society would seem less ominous than a "PROJECT", wouldn't you say?



http://www.newamericancentury.org/


This isn't the first time that you've posted this. Tell me, what does it prove? It only proves that you're looking for anything to supplement your delusion.

Furthermore, the war on terror started in the early 90's. There was the first WTC attack and two verbal declarations of war by Al Queda. It's too bad that Slick Willie was busy building false prosperity!
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Let it go. Live for today. now is the only real.

I feel sorry for you poor suffering bastards and bastardesses...

Let it go.
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