I've been doing this for so long it's just rediculous.
...and I'm still learning. Hopefully , I'll always keep learning , because when you quit caring about it....quit.
Heck , I learn from guys half my age , and ego doesn't keep me from admitting it.
know when you're good
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Re: practice
I think that every musician goes through that stage where he/she overplays and tries to stick as many notes into one beat as possible. I know that I did. Now I just try to play something tasteful. I'm actually very conservative with my playing in this band, and I think it's better that way.gypsy123 wrote:I totally agree that you have to listen to other cats because I did when I was told I was over playing or played too much when I was learning(eons ago-LOL!)
One of my all-time favorite bass players is Paul McCartney. He just knows how to play for the song and everything is brilliant in its simplicity and tastefulness. I still consider Silly Love Songs to be one of the best bass ines ever written. I hope that I can get to that level some day.
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Re: practice
I totally agree !....I read before in a Modern Drummer issue once about "over playing"...it said,"One thing to remember about playing the drums is, "its actually hitting and not hitting that makes the beats"..."It's not only what you play but what you don't play."...and remember to play with your band and don't try to out play them. It's a team effort. And theres no "I" in team.bassist_25 wrote:I think that every musician goes through that stage where he/she overplays and tries to stick as many notes into one beat as possible. I know that I did. Now I just try to play something tasteful. I'm actually very conservative with my playing in this band, and I think it's better that way.gypsy123 wrote:I totally agree that you have to listen to other cats because I did when I was told I was over playing or played too much when I was learning(eons ago-LOL!)
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There may not be an I in team but there is in win ! l.o.l. 
I think it was Gene Simmons who said once " give me a power chord or a heavy E any day over all of the fancy stuff, too me it just sounds like a bunch of angry bee's buzz'n around ." I'm no lead player by any stretch of the imagination and I prolly don't play any one exactly the same everytime, but the guys put up with me just the same and I've only gotten better by try'n and them letting me try. Sometimes my leads are good and sometimes they are not so good but, I'll never get better if I don't keep at it. Certain things come easier to me than others, I think that's why I fight with myself try'n to learn solos, but it keeps me wanting to learn kinda like a challenge of sorts. I want people to say hey you're not too bad dude, but....... ! That's what will drive me to get better and better someday , God how I love a good challenge, most of all in play'n music.
I think it was Gene Simmons who said once " give me a power chord or a heavy E any day over all of the fancy stuff, too me it just sounds like a bunch of angry bee's buzz'n around ." I'm no lead player by any stretch of the imagination and I prolly don't play any one exactly the same everytime, but the guys put up with me just the same and I've only gotten better by try'n and them letting me try. Sometimes my leads are good and sometimes they are not so good but, I'll never get better if I don't keep at it. Certain things come easier to me than others, I think that's why I fight with myself try'n to learn solos, but it keeps me wanting to learn kinda like a challenge of sorts. I want people to say hey you're not too bad dude, but....... ! That's what will drive me to get better and better someday , God how I love a good challenge, most of all in play'n music.
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This is a great thread! I'd like to add my 2 cents worth. I've been playing drums for 40 some years, including a brief sabbatical ( 14 years) and have played with some wonderful and good local muscians. Way back in 1968, after playing in my first R'n'R band, I auditioned for a club band that was very well known and had a great following. There were 3 other drummers there who also auditioned. I was very green, but I got the job! After several months with the new band I asked Bill"Why did you guys pick me"? He said you were so green, but you followed our suggestions and we could mold you to fit the band. That worked for 4 years.
1. Always play for the band!
Several bands later I hooked up with Johnny Alamprese and he taught me how to work with the bass player and don't step on anybodies toes musically.
2. Listen to the other players!
Then after several (about 20 ) bands later I got to work with Dave Villani
in FM. We were a disco/rock band that could also do dinner music and a little jazz. From Dave I learned to make it danceable and when you do a drum solo keep it so that people don't trip over there own two feet. One other great thing that Dave taught me was " If you have nothing good to say about another band or performer, say nothing at all.
3. Be outgoing, but be kind!
I ended up in Xeno and got to put it all together and the band was awesome! Our bass player and I worked together very well. When Randy Rutherford joined the band the rhythym was solid and Randy could foray into unknown territory.
Oh and i forgot to mention Rick Wertz. I worked with Rick since he was 17. He taught me innumerable things abut music in general, but the best thing he did was get me calmed down!!!
I guess what I'm trying to say is, be attentative to the muscians you work with, be attentive to the people you attract, play for the song, save your soloing for your solo, and you'll draw big crowds, make some money and the adorations of the audience will make you high!
Sheez, what a diatribe!!!
1. Always play for the band!
Several bands later I hooked up with Johnny Alamprese and he taught me how to work with the bass player and don't step on anybodies toes musically.
2. Listen to the other players!
Then after several (about 20 ) bands later I got to work with Dave Villani
in FM. We were a disco/rock band that could also do dinner music and a little jazz. From Dave I learned to make it danceable and when you do a drum solo keep it so that people don't trip over there own two feet. One other great thing that Dave taught me was " If you have nothing good to say about another band or performer, say nothing at all.
3. Be outgoing, but be kind!
I ended up in Xeno and got to put it all together and the band was awesome! Our bass player and I worked together very well. When Randy Rutherford joined the band the rhythym was solid and Randy could foray into unknown territory.
Oh and i forgot to mention Rick Wertz. I worked with Rick since he was 17. He taught me innumerable things abut music in general, but the best thing he did was get me calmed down!!!
I guess what I'm trying to say is, be attentative to the muscians you work with, be attentive to the people you attract, play for the song, save your soloing for your solo, and you'll draw big crowds, make some money and the adorations of the audience will make you high!
Sheez, what a diatribe!!!