Patchbay ?'s

[Killjingle]

I decided to by a patchbay to make life a little easier.

it said to insert effects into an already existing loop, simply insert the effect.

that does not loop it thru the effect box though correct? or do u create its own loop somewhere on the patchbay , and then connect the two loops should I want to insert that effect?

its a 48channel behringer balanced

with 24 AB on front and back

to do this the switching then has to be half normal. correct?

[Killjingle]

and then the next ? would be... it is it somewhat common just to set up loops of different fx down the patchbay. the manual didnt really get into too much detail about this

right now in my rack I have

a dm5 drum module
alesis 3630 compressor/limiter/gate
lexicon mx200 processor
6 channel headphone preamp
plus an eq

my mic preamp is a standalone unit... which along with the mic will be replaced but works half decent


Im kinda gonna have to use most of this gear for the next 3-6 mos cause I have already went over budget... but I plan to replace the alesis 3630 for sure

the board I am using has 2 sends and returns is done thru mic/line input which I dont care for, but I will move up to bigger and better things next yr as far as the recorder end

[Killjingle]

bump

[lonewolf]

What is the purpose of this exercise?

[lonewolf]

I'm not sure exactly what all you want to do, but you connect all the devices to the rear of the patch panel with A's as inputs and B's as outputs. keep stereo connections next to each other and mark what each connector is for. You are probably better off keeping your mic preamp inputs off the patch bay and plugging the mics directly into it.

The sends on your mixer are outputs and the return channels are inputs. I recommend using stereo channels as returns rather than using mic channels. If you must use mic channels, remember to pan them properly if you are using stereo returns.

Then its just a matter of using patch cables to make your signal chain(s).

I have always found that less is more. Every component you place in the signal chain will add noise to the circuit and degrade the S/N ratio. Whether you are doing live sound or recording, proper gain (trim) settings on the mics is half the battle and will take you a lot further than all the compressors, gates and other signal degradation techniques combined.

[Killjingle]

cool deal.

that logic I can appreciate.

[Mackovyak]

I don't know if this is going to help you or not, and I'm not really familiar with the behringer patchbay setups, but I have my bay set up as follows.

I have my bay half-normalled (I believe that's the proper term). All of the top row stuff are sends that don't break the signal chain.

In other words, i have all of the inserts on my board wired into a channel on my patch bay.

Let's take the insert on channel 1 for example. The patch bay slot will have a top (send) that doesn't break the signal. So, if I need to, I could take a 'feel' of that signal and run it into an effects unit without breaking the signal.

The signal only get's broke or replaced when I plug into the bottom bottom slot of the bay on channel 1.

What this allows me to do is 2 things. I can run a unit such as a compressor. Take the original signal, patch in a compressor, and then patch it directly back into the same channel.

OR...I could take a 'feed' out of channel 1's SEND and bring it back into channel 2's RETURN if I was using something such as a reverb unit. This way I could mix a clean and effected signal.

As far as Aux sends, rack effects and such. I also have them wired into the patch bay, but as 'Parallel' which is basically just a 'U' turn so that the back of the unit is now on the bay.

I also keep these units set up so that the inputs are on the bottom and the outputs are on top. It seems backwards, but when actually patching, it makes it easier to keep track of what you're doing without getting your patches all mixed up.

Always patch 'TOP hole to BOTTOM hole'

Hope this helps, sorry I'm not much for explaining things via typing, but if you have any questions about this setup, feel free to PM me or post here and I'll try to clarify.


Justin

[Killjingle]

thank you!

very helpful...