web site design

nighthawk · Post by **nighthawk** » Sunday Jan 15, 2006

im trying to learn some web site designs stuff. any sugestions on info.

Punkinhead · Post by **Punkinhead** » Sunday Jan 15, 2006

Look online for all the info. you need on it. There's .pdf's out the ass crack for web design. Everything from HTML to JavaScript/AJAX to JSP & Struts. You can find it all online.

J Michaels · Post by **J Michaels** » Sunday Jan 15, 2006

nighthawk wrote:im trying to learn some web site designs stuff. any sugestions on info.

Yeah - don't use FrontPage, unless you use something to clean up the code! I learned that the hard way - pages I created wouldn't load correctly except in Internet Explorer, and even then not always!

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Monday Jan 16, 2006

There's a lot of tutorials and general reference info at www.w3schools.com. You might want to stick to the HTML and CSS sections first, cuz that will give you the fundamentals to get your pages looking the way you want. Aside from that, all you need is a text editor (like Notepad), a browser, and your imagination.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Monday Jan 16, 2006

I have always coded by hand, I did at least 50 tutorials, but if you want to get it done quicker, look into freeware WYSIWYG editors. Most are simple, and even if you have to pay for some of them, my friend uses and swears by Coffee Cup. In time you can even learn code to add into them when you desire a little something extra. And then get yourself a nifty little ftp program so you can upload that bad boy. Fire away ?'s if u need any help, more than glad to help!

WYSIWYG= what you see is what you get

nighthawk · Post by **nighthawk** » Monday Jan 16, 2006

what do you look for when looking for a server? price bandwith and so forth. what about the difference between windows or lynix (spelling?) or so forth?

i didnt know there was software available to make it easyer. this would probably be the route i go. i would go for a paid version as long as the price is right. any sugestions on different kinds and how user freindly they are.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Monday Jan 16, 2006

whoa... I ask u first what do u want to do with your site. how much content (pics, mp3's). how much traffic are you anticipating. how much do u want to spend. would you like your own domain name. those are the 1st and foremost important ?'s IMHO

bosskland · Post by **bosskland** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006

http://www.htmlgoodies.com/ click on primers

Bandwidth really depends on what you want to do with the site, as asked in the last post.

I'd suggest checking out http://www.siteground.com for hosting.

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Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006

I myself have really enjoyed using nameroute.com. 15$ a yr, and that gives you 10 megs (not a true 10 cause of trackers, prob more like eight), a top level domain, php support, and their email support is awesome. I have never been dissapointed with them. I myself use IE for an ftp program, but I wouldnt reccomend that if you dont really understand html, css, and the works.

nighthawk · Post by **nighthawk** » Tuesday Jan 17, 2006

thanks guy's. im beginning to feel a bit over my head on this but at least i know there is someone out there that is will to help a newbee out.

im looking at mp3's, pics, forum you know the works. im not worried about getting it up and running in a hurry cause i know it will take me a while to learn all this. my bigest worry is bandwith. ive seen a lot of sites get shut down cause of it. how much is a lot and how much is a little?

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006

While it may seem like a lot, 1 GB a month is not that much , but iI have never had an issue with it. Some of the sites I built had some really heavy traffic. The beautiful part is that you can always UPGRADE if you need more bandwidth. Unless you are putting up something graphically heavy, and have music playing, and 3 large flash movies playing at the same time, and have a LOT of visitors, I would start small. You can always get bigger. I wouldnt go less than a gig transfer a month though.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006

here are the basic neccesities... its not really that hard once you commit to it

you need:

knowledge of html,css,xml,etc or a decent html editor like coffee cup http://www.download.com/3000-2048-10003347.html

Now you create your "site" on your computer. Make it look real spiffy and stuff. The next prob is getting it online. Thats why an ftp program is nice. All good servers allow ftping into your space. Pick up cuteftp or something similar http://www.download.com/Cute-FTP-Home/3 ... ag=lst-0-2

When I started 8 yrs ago there wasnt as much out there as there is now. Now there are TOO many choices, and you can feel overwhelmed. I would also suggest a graphics edit program. Everyone seems to like Adobe Photoshop, Corel, and I myself like Paint Shop Pro. It sux when you get started and realize you cant edit pictures. Or when you cant compress a .jpg.

when you do get started... its basically like this

an index page... and pages linked from that page to wherever and maybe back... try a template that comes with an editor, or look at some of your fav sites to get ideas... there is no right and wrong ways... but there are key ways to make your site load faster... and that we could get into if and when you get into web designing.

Punkinhead · Post by **Punkinhead** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006

Killjingle wrote:I myself have really enjoyed using nameroute.com. 15$ a yr, and that gives you 10 megs (not a true 10 cause of trackers, prob more like eight), a top level domain, php support, and their email support is awesome. I have never been dissapointed with them. I myself use IE for an ftp program, but I wouldnt reccomend that if you dont really understand html, css, and the works.

Good call on nameroute.com They have a nice upgrade package too. $50 you get 100 mgs, CGI scripts (forum, guestbook, counter, etc), 1 mySQL database, and a slew of other shit.

I like to use Dreamweaver for HTML and JavaScript. Also it has a handy media thing that will help a newbie create Flash content and add it in to give life to your site. I think it's like $100, maybe more since Adobe bought out Macromedia.

Oh, and you can use The Gimp as a photo editor (highly recommended). Simply put, it's a free Linux version of Photoshop that will now run on Windows and Mac as well.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Wednesday Jan 18, 2006

I use dreamweaver for my design, and have a host package package with ionhosting. If you want to get a really good deal you could get one with http://powweb.com/ ..

If you do a google search you can find all kinds of information. Some of the sites I go to are http://www.hostingtalk.com and webdesign is a good site - http://webdesign.about.com/

The one thing I have been trying to learn is css. You can design a whole website with just one text file. It's a good way to add security and make it look better. You can also have multiple css files so the visiters can select which one they want to use ..

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