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[FretBored]

Bag wrote...

"Anyone care to help me out here. I'd just love to understand how anyone can believe that GW Bush and the Republican Party is responsible for Iraq.

From what I can see here, there were a couple of prominent Democrats who seemed to think the same thing, and think it way before Bush took office.

Or, is it just that the Democrats were only talking and they really didn't mean for anything to happen.

Go ahead, explain."


Bag, do you notice the crickets and cheepers. Awful quiet around this question. When you point out that virtually every ranking democrat had said the same thing, and then you point this out, there isNEVER a response.

Come on Damed Yankee (ha ha) and Fat Vin. You got som splainin to do.

I think Henry Ford is responsible if you get my drift.

The official name for the war was to be "Operation Iraqi Liberation" -OIL
But they renamed it "Operation Iraqi Freedom" for some strange reason.

[FretBored]

Here's a good one!



"It's a myth to think I don't know what's going on. It's a myth to think that I'm not aware that there's opinions that don't agree with mine, because I'm fully aware of that." —George W. Bush, Philadelphia, Pa., Dec. 12, 2005

[YankeeRose]

[quote"undercoverjoe"]Bag wrote...

"Anyone care to help me out here. I'd just love to understand how anyone can believe that GW Bush and the Republican Party is responsible for Iraq.

From what I can see here, there were a couple of prominent Democrats who seemed to think the same thing, and think it way before Bush took office.

Or, is it just that the Democrats were only talking and they really didn't mean for anything to happen.

Go ahead, explain."


Bag, do you notice the crickets and cheepers. Awful quiet around this question. When you point out that virtually every ranking democrat had said the same thing, and then you point this out, there isNEVER a response.

Come on Damed Yankee (ha ha) and Fat Vin. You got som splainin to do.

I think Henry Ford is responsible if you get my drift.

The official name for the war was to be "Operation Iraqi Liberation" -OIL
But they renamed it "Operation Iraqi Freedom" for some strange reason.

ucJoe, we don't agree on Politics, but I hope you know I do consider you a friend.


There is no connection between Al-Queda, Saddam and either World Trade Center attack. If the Democrats had the information the Cartel wanted them to have, why wouldn't they have said what they did? The point is, they had "information", not solid proof, so no, we didn't do what the Cartel wanted. Don't you think we had Operatives of some kind in Iraq all along, or at least Iraqis reporting to us? How clueless are you all? WMD HAVE NOT BEEN FOUND TO THIS DAY and they never will, because they don't exist. Bush KNEW he had "faulty Intelligence" (Downing Street Memos.), ignored requests from the WORLD to wait another THREE WEEKS and he illegally invaded another country. Why? Because that was the "Prime Directive" (Thanks, Star Trek!) of the Cartel all along. Did you see the map on their web site, it's really cute. If one reads their "Statement of Purpose", closely, they wish to "Educate" us and everyone to be their idea of "good Citizens"...sounds a bit too familiar. It reads as if they are hell bent on world domination...
Attacking countries that have done nothing to us? This is NOT some Video or Computer Game, this is real. Anybody have teenage sons? Guess what, at 18 they have to Register for the Draft. (IF it's a "justified" War, I'd take my Son to sign up, so BertEvil, SHUT UP!) This American is not okay with the "Cartel" and never will be. I'm through with this Thread.

[Bert|Evil]

[quote"undercoverjoe"]Bag wrote...

"Anyone care to help me out here. I'd just love to understand how anyone can believe that GW Bush and the Republican Party is responsible for Iraq.

From what I can see here, there were a couple of prominent Democrats who seemed to think the same thing, and think it way before Bush took office.

Or, is it just that the Democrats were only talking and they really didn't mean for anything to happen.

Go ahead, explain."


Bag, do you notice the crickets and cheepers. Awful quiet around this question. When you point out that virtually every ranking democrat had said the same thing, and then you point this out, there isNEVER a response.

Come on Damed Yankee (ha ha) and Fat Vin. You got som splainin to do.

I think Henry Ford is responsible if you get my drift.

The official name for the war was to be "Operation Iraqi Liberation" -OIL
But they renamed it "Operation Iraqi Freedom" for some strange reason.

ucJoe, we don't agree on Politics, but I hope you know I do consider you a friend.


There is no connection between Al-Queda, Saddam and either World Trade Center attack. If the Democrats had the information the Cartel wanted them to have, why wouldn't they have said what they did? The point is, they had "information", not solid proof, so no, we didn't do what the Cartel wanted. Don't you think we had Operatives of some kind in Iraq all along, or at least Iraqis reporting to us? How clueless are you all? WMD HAVE NOT BEEN FOUND TO THIS DAY and they never will, because they don't exist. Bush KNEW he had "faulty Intelligence" (Downing Street Memos.), ignored requests from the WORLD to wait another THREE WEEKS and he illegally invaded another country. Why? Because that was the "Prime Directive" (Thanks, Star Trek!) of the Cartel all along. Did you see the map on their web site, it's really cute. If one reads their "Statement of Purpose", closely, they wish to "Educate" us and everyone to be their idea of "good Citizens"...sounds a bit too familiar. It reads as if they are hell bent on world domination...
Attacking countries that have done nothing to us? This is NOT some Video or Computer Game, this is real. Anybody have teenage sons? Guess what, at 18 they have to Register for the Draft. (IF it's a "justified" War, I'd take my Son to sign up, so BertEvil, SHUT UP!) This American is not okay with the "Cartel" and never will be. I'm through with this Thread.

I, as well as most of the guys on this forum, registered for Selective Service. It’s not “The Draft”, mind you. If you don’t, it will come back to haunt you if you ever need a security clearance. So, what is your point?? What would you do if your son enlisted?? Would you be another Cindy Sheehan (who was a screwball even before her son enlisted). Do you realize that soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen are making their mothers sign contracts that, if they were to meet their demise overseas, the mother wouldn’t do anything like Sheehan did?

Do we really need so sort of documented proof that there is a connection between Bin Laden and Saddam? It is actually a pretty obvious one. We can trace their threat to us to the Ollie North trials, which is one year after Bin Laden finished his “freedom fighting” in Afghanistan.

If someone bombed your basement with the intent to kill, would you just treat it as water under the bridge? Complacency, as you brought up earlier out of context, is what Clinton used. 911 didn’t have to happen, and using the “hindsight is 20/20” excuse is a poor one.

There aren’t too many military wives (former or present) who think like you. What else is going on??

… and when did we ever have “solid proof” of anything? People are going to jail all of the time in the U.S. because there was “evidence” against them, which is not proof or “solid proof”.

[lonewolf]

There was no connection between Iraq and Al-Quaida worth mentioning.

Who said there was? There didn't need to be. Iraq and Saddam were our enemies a full 11 years before 9/11 happened. The situation was a serious security risk and something had to finally be done about it. We could no longer afford the personnel required to babysit Saddam.

Iraqi regime change bacame the legal U.S. Iraqi policy when President William Jefferson Clinton signed into law the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998:

http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/ ... on/ILA.htm

Since the Clinton administration didn't agree with the NSA's immediate assessment, they had to wait for somebody more like-minded. It didn't matter who the Republicans ran in 2000, if they won the White House, Iraq was getting invaded and that's all there was to it. 9/11 was the unexpected catalyst that prompted that action earlier than expected.

As far as WMDs...the main reason we were babysitting Saddam was to protect the Shias in the south and the Kurds in the north from chemical genocide.

[Banned]

Bag wrote...

"Anyone care to help me out here. I'd just love to understand how anyone can believe that GW Bush and the Republican Party is responsible for Iraq.

From what I can see here, there were a couple of prominent Democrats who seemed to think the same thing, and think it way before Bush took office.

Or, is it just that the Democrats were only talking and they really didn't mean for anything to happen.

Go ahead, explain."


Bag, do you notice the crickets and cheepers. Awful quiet around this question. When you point out that virtually every ranking democrat had said the same thing, and then you point this out, there isNEVER a response.

Come on Damed Yankee (ha ha) and Fat Vin. You got som splainin to do.

Yankee has many things to say but.....SILENCE.....never has any defense for why democrat saying exactly the things W said.

Al Zarkoour (spelling?) who is the main terrorist in Iraq and is Al Queda,was Iraq BEFORE the war started.

So that sort of blows out the theory there were no Al Queda in Iraq before the war.

[FretBored]

[quote"undercoverjoe"]Bag wrote...

"Anyone care to help me out here. I'd just love to understand how anyone can believe that GW Bush and the Republican Party is responsible for Iraq.

From what I can see here, there were a couple of prominent Democrats who seemed to think the same thing, and think it way before Bush took office.

Or, is it just that the Democrats were only talking and they really didn't mean for anything to happen.

Go ahead, explain."


"Fretbored did not write this!!!!" Hi-Jacked or Someone dosen't know how to quote!


Bag, do you notice the crickets and cheepers. Awful quiet around this question. When you point out that virtually every ranking democrat had said the same thing, and then you point this out, there isNEVER a response.

Come on Damed Yankee (ha ha) and Fat Vin. You got som splainin to do.

I think Henry Ford is responsible if you get my drift.

The official name for the war was to be "Operation Iraqi Liberation" -OIL
But they renamed it "Operation Iraqi Freedom" for some strange reason.

ucJoe, we don't agree on Politics, but I hope you know I do consider you a friend. :)


There is no connection between Al-Queda, Saddam and either World Trade Center attack. If the Democrats had the information the Cartel wanted them to have, why wouldn't they have said what they did? The point is, they had "information", not solid proof, so no, we didn't do what the Cartel wanted. Don't you think we had Operatives of some kind in Iraq all along, or at least Iraqis reporting to us? How clueless are you all? WMD HAVE NOT BEEN FOUND TO THIS DAY and they never will, because they don't exist. Bush KNEW he had "faulty Intelligence" (Downing Street Memos.), ignored requests from the WORLD to wait another THREE WEEKS and he illegally invaded another country. Why? Because that was the "Prime Directive" (Thanks, Star Trek!) of the Cartel all along. Did you see the map on their web site, it's really cute. If one reads their "Statement of Purpose", closely, they wish to "Educate" us and everyone to be their idea of "good Citizens"...sounds a bit too familiar. It reads as if they are hell bent on world domination...
Attacking countries that have done nothing to us? This is NOT some Video or Computer Game, this is real. Anybody have teenage sons? Guess what, at 18 they have to Register for the Draft. (IF it's a "justified" War, I'd take my Son to sign up, so BertEvil, SHUT UP!) This American is not okay with the "Cartel" and never will be. I'm through with this Thread.

I, as well as most of the guys on this forum, registered for Selective Service. It’s not “The Draft”, mind you. If you don’t, it will come back to haunt you if you ever need a security clearance. So, what is your point?? What would you do if your son enlisted?? Would you be another Cindy Sheehan (who was a screwball even before her son enlisted). Do you realize that soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen are making their mothers sign contracts that, if they were to meet their demise overseas, the mother wouldn’t do anything like Sheehan did?

Do we really need so sort of documented proof that there is a connection between Bin Laden and Saddam? It is actually a pretty obvious one. We can trace their threat to us to the Ollie North trials, which is one year after Bin Laden finished his “freedom fighting” in Afghanistan.

If someone bombed your basement with the intent to kill, would you just treat it as water under the bridge? Complacency, as you brought up earlier out of context, is what Clinton used. 911 didn’t have to happen, and using the “hindsight is 20/20” excuse is a poor one.

There aren’t too many military wives (former or present) who think like you. What else is going on??

… and when did we ever have “solid proof” of anything? People are going to jail all of the time in the U.S. because there was “evidence” against them, which is not proof or “solid proof”.

[RobTheDrummer]

Who cares if there was no direct correllation between Al queerda and Iraq. It's nice to have Saddam the fuck out of there, because with a RAT like him in power, there was no tellin what the future held for him and Al Queerda. And if you think Saddam was better off in power, then you are fucked up.


MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL! HAPPY CHANUKA TOO!

[bassist_25]

I definatley agree that Saddam isn't better off in power, but the thousands that have died to take him out of there aren't any better with him out of power. I wish the Bush apologists would just face up to the facts: It was a war to find WMDs. We didn't find those, so then it suddenly became a "liberation campaign".

I've yet to see any convicing evidence of Saddam's links with Bin Laden. But then again, I'm an emipricist.

[RobTheDrummer]

I just wish all politicians would be fucking truthful. Both sides are full of shit!

[bassist_25]

I just wish all politicians would be fucking truthful. Both sides are full of shit!

Fucking Right On!!!!!

Rob, I'll be at City Limits tonight. It shall be a capital time.

[Banned]

I just wish all politicians would be fucking truthful. Both sides are full of shit!

They ALL become crooked and corupt the second the start to worry more about being re-elected that doing something for the good of the country.

The only answer has to be term limits.

[lonewolf]

I've yet to see any convicing evidence of Saddam's links with Bin Laden. But then again, I'm an emipricist.

That's because there were no links. Bin Laden actually offered to raise an army to remove Saddam from Kuwait in 1990 to keep us heathen off "holy Arabian ground". While they weren't out & out enemies, as a secularist despot, Saddam was not popular with the fundamentalist terrorists such as bin Laden.

The invasion of Iraq was building for a decade and it was going to happen the next time a Republican or willing Democrat took office, no matter who it was or what excuses would be used. You don't really think this was Bush's idea, do you?

I wish I could find the poll taken in September of 2002 that asked if we should invade Iraq without UN approval. 74% of respondents said "YES". It was a major polling company and it was not a loaded question.

[zman1200]

By the way, did ya hear the one about the guy who walks into his bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says,"Honey this is the pig I fuck when you have a headache." His wife, lying in bed says,"I think you'll find that that's a sheep." He says, "I think YOU'LL find that I wasn't talking to YOU!"

Is that a true story about a young Elton John

Oh, and Calvin and Hobbes Rock