Iron City Beer files for Chapter 11 ..

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Tuesday Dec 20, 2005

ZappasXWife wrote:I am somewhat of a beer snob, and my favorites are Chimay (red label not blue, and I really think the Chimay in the big wine bottles with a cork taste the best ), and Unibrue (anyone had?) but my favorite of all is the homebrew my boyfriend makes, it is yummy!

is it hard to make or expensive? does he do dark?

Asundor · Post by **Asundor** » Tuesday Dec 20, 2005

GUINNESS all the way

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Tuesday Dec 20, 2005

He's made dark, wheat beer, oatmeal beer, cream ale, IPA and others. He used to get the kits when he was first starting but now he makes up his own recipes. Hard to make? Well, yeah its actually a whole day affair to make it and then weeks or months to ferment it. Cleanliness and temperature are real important. Expensive? You probably spend about the same as when you buy it when its all said and done. But I must say it is the best beer ever, and its fun to make.

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Tuesday Dec 20, 2005

ZappasXWife wrote:He's made dark, wheat beer, oatmeal beer, cream ale, IPA and others. He used to get the kits when he was first starting but now he makes up his own recipes. Hard to make? Well, yeah its actually a whole day affair to make it and then weeks or months to ferment it. Cleanliness and temperature are real important. Expensive? You probably spend about the same as when you buy it when its all said and done. But I must say it is the best beer ever, and its fun to make.

thats what i thot, guess i wont try it.

marzoni's (the restarant) has great micro brews. they make there own! there STOUT is very good, very robust and very affordable. those who like real beer won't be disapointed..

agreed..
GUINNESS RULZ!

but so freakin expensive

a great tasting and VERY affordable darky is Yuengling Porter. about $17/case. great body great value (but i do like then even more robust, but YP is great compromise b/w quality/price)

hey jim, how about those victorys?? what's the scoop..??

Post by **Jim Price** » Tuesday Dec 20, 2005

I tried the Victory variety pack. All four varieties had good, distinct flavor; the lager was probably my favorite.

A few years ago, one of our listeners used to regularly brew up his own beers and bring cases out to us. It was excellent! My favorite story, he gave me a six pack of one of his beer varieties, and I took it home. One Sunday night (pre-"Backyard Rocker," mid-90's), I was relaxing in front of the computer and decided to crack open one of his beers, with plans of making it to Pellegrine's to check out a band later on. That first beer was delicious, so I went for a second. I next woke up slumped over my computer keyboard, it was about 4 AM! That beer was good, but it was potent!

This same home brewer was part of the partnership that tried to set up a micro-brewery in Altoona a year or two later, only to get shot down by the city zoning authority. I haven't heard from him in a few years, I would definitely enjoy more of his beer if he's still making it!

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Tuesday Dec 20, 2005

I still keep 2 cans of Old Frothingslosh Pale Stale Ale in my refrigerator for shits & giggles. I believe they are about 10 years old from the 1995 40th anniversery.

Chapter 11 don't mean out of business. Their biggest problem is paying their $2 million water & sewer bill. They'll get it straightened out and be here for Old Frothingslosh's 60 anniversery in 2010.

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

marzoni's (the restarant) has great micro brews. they make there own!

They're OK...Ottos in State College is better IMO

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

Selinsgrove Brewery has some good brews too but that's a bit of a drive.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

After reading JP's Post about that second Home Brew, maybe this isn't such a silly question, after all.

Ron, the German Beers, the ones that every time one goes out, one has a "kegger",

are they higher in Alcohol content?

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

YankeeRose wrote:After reading JP's Post about that second Home Brew, maybe this isn't such a silly question, after all. Ron, the German Beers, the ones that every time one goes out, one has a "kegger", are they higher in Alcohol content?

state laws diff in each state govern beer alcohol content.

generaly speaking, lagers, stouts and darks have more alcohol content but that is not always case just most of the time.

you know there is another consideration when chosing beers, flavonal content. flavonals are good for the heart and ateries. lite beers have none. rule is thicker darker the better

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

generaly speaking, lagers, stouts and darks have more alcohol content but that is not always case just most of the time.

That is absolutely not true, it is the exact opposite....usually dark beers have less alcohol and also less calories. This is something I have to know as part of the work I do (seriously). You are wrong.

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

ZappasXWife wrote:
generaly speaking, lagers, stouts and darks have more alcohol content but that is not always case just most of the time.
That is absolutely not true, it is the exact opposite....usually dark beers have less alcohol and also less calories. This is something I have to know as part of the work I do (seriously). You are wrong.

prove it.

Author(s): Logan BK, Case GA, Distefano S
Title: Alcohol content of beer and malt beverages: forensic considerations
Keywords: alcohol, beer, driving under the influence, forensic science, forensic toxicology

Abstract: Beer consumption is commonly an issue in a medico-legal setting, requiring estimates either of a likely blood alcohol concentration (BAC) for a given pattern of consumption or vice versa. Four hundred and four beers and malt beverages available for sale in the State of Washington were tested by gas chromatography for their alcohol content. Considerable variability in the alcoholic strength was found, even within the same class. Overall the range of concentrations was 2.92%v/v to 15.66%v/v. The mean alcohol concentration for ales was 5.51%v/v (SD 1.23%v/v), and for lagers, 5.32% (SD 1.43%v/v). Some specially brews had characteristically higher or lower mean concentrations: ice beers 6.07%v/v, malt liquor 7.23%v/v, light beer 4.13%v/v, seasonal ales 6.30%v/v. Six brands of lager and four light beers account for the majority of all beer sales in the United States, and the mean alcohol concentration for these products was measured as 4.73%v/v and 4.10%v/v respectively. Few of the beers (17%) were labeled with respect to alcohol content, and in some cases, there was a significant disparity between the concentration listed on the label, and the measured alcohol concentration. Toxicologists need to exercise caution when performing Widmark type calculations, using all available information to select the most appropriate estimate for alcoholic strength of a beer or malt beverage.

its a fact lite beer is made from lots of water.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

Alcohol content is based on state. It's not the same for each one.

Post by **Ron** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

YankeeRose wrote:Ron, the German Beers, the ones that every time one goes out, one has a "kegger", are they higher in Alcohol content?

I don't remember.

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Wednesday Dec 21, 2005

f.sciarrillo wrote:Alcohol content is based on state. It's not the same for each one.

that's right but trends remain the same

lite = less alcohol + cals > H2O

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Thursday Dec 22, 2005

Hey nswipe I never said dark beer has less calories and alcohol than LIGHT beer. Do you think I'm a moron? And your abstract does not disprove what I said at all. Please don't ever insinuate that I don't know what I'm talking about in my profession that I have dedicated 6 years of higher education to.

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Thursday Dec 22, 2005

ZappasXWife wrote:Hey nswipe I never said dark beer has less calories and alcohol than LIGHT beer. Do you think I'm a moron? And your abstract does not disprove what I said at all. Please don't ever insinuate that I don't know what I'm talking about in my profession that I have dedicated 6 years of higher education to.

i didn't insinuate, i proved you wrong. you should know the diff

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Thursday Dec 22, 2005

I said...

your abstract does not disprove what I said at all.

As you say..."I don't even know why I bother".

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Thursday Dec 22, 2005

ZappasXWife wrote:I said...

your abstract does not disprove what I said at all.
As you say..."I don't even know why I bother".

actually you DIDN'T bother..
except to make a lot of noise.

Bocks
Originating in Germany, these beers are exemplary of a full-flavored, strong German beer. The name comes from the city in which it was born - Einbeck. It is generally a dark brown beer with a full malty taste. It is a bottom-fermenting beer and is also a root to many derivatives like Dopplebock, Maibock, Weizenbock etc. It is usually quite strong in alcohol content - an average bock is expected to contain at least 6 % alcohol by volume.

Stouts and Porters
Stouts are top-fermenting, dark beers made from roasted barley malts. It is extremely full-bodied with a balanced hop character. Porters are the lighter-bodied version of stouts and generally have a lesser complexity in taste, although they still retain the flavor. Stouts can be further classified as sweet stouts and dry stouts, with the latter being more popular. Guinness is the best of example of a classic stout. In the US, Sierra Nevada forms a good example of a porter. Generally, these beers are high in alcohol content (7 - 10 % alcohol by volume).

http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~girishv/beer/styles.html

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Thursday Dec 22, 2005

NS, you're doing it again. Being a troll. Stop. Seriously.

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Thursday Dec 22, 2005

ToonaRockGuy wrote:NS, you're doing it again. Being a troll. Stop. Seriously.

i just provided some interesting info on beer. i don't have a clue what she's talking about.

ps I am not the one calling anyone names here.