Exclusive Members Only Section?

TJ Kelly · Post by **TJ Kelly** » Tuesday Dec 13, 2005

Hey Ron what about a members only section for musicians? To post about equipment, clubs, musicians wanted/available, stuff for sale, etc. I'd be willing to donate a set fee per year say $20.00. This would keep the trolls out and let the musicians discuss things they needed to without turning every thread into some off topic post! Would the true music types be up for it? For a taste of what I'm talking about check out www.talkbass.com

GUITARII · Post by **GUITARII** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

Wow! That sounds great!! I would also be willing to part with some cashola to be included. It would be like a true music forum... cool! But, how do you keep the trolls out? (one of the biggest reasons I haven't gotten into the site that much over the last few months). It seems every topic turns into a flame war or gets butchered by some dumbass that won't surrender to the fact that no one gives a shit about their opinion anyhow at this point, with bridges already burnt that is. What do you think Ron? Some extra cash would never hurt keepin' the site up!

TJ Kelly · Post by **TJ Kelly** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

The amount you pay to gain access to the members-only portion will be enough to keep trolls out.

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

I dunno ... fans (even annoying ones) are a big part of the scene and I think if you suggest alienation via an exclusive, musicians-only forum, you work to drive a wedge between us and them, and that's bad.

Remember THE REASON. It got ugly at times but it was handled. Same with METAL RULES and AJA.

Trolls are a fact of life when it comes to forums like this. I trust Ron to use good judgement, to clean up or delete threads that need it, and ban those who have earned the distinction.

However, I'm not opposed to making a $$ contribution to support the bandwidth.

r:>)

RAM Z · Post by **RAM Z** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

I agree with ya a 100% Rob! Ron and J.P. do a great job with take'n care of these matters when need be. I would however shell out some green backs also.

Bit*chenWomen1029 · Post by **Bit*chenWomen1029** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

IMO, i think the members exclusive thing is a good idea, but i would have to agree with rob. If you alienate your fans , then you will lose them all together. But again this is just my opinion!

With that being said ,I plan to do my damnest to ignore troll comments etc. and i think if we all do this then eventually the troll will fade away.
I think jp and ron are doing a great job with clean up on here.

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

censership is never good .. never . you loose more then you gain!

ThrashKillsYou · Post by **ThrashKillsYou** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

Seems like something the government would do.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

Tim,

The reason why Talkbass has membership dues is so Paul can pay the insane amount of bandwidth that the site uses. Using a member's only due in order to exclude certain people is not a good idea, IMO, for the reasons already stated.

Personally, I think it's about time for another RP jam. Maybe when Bobby gets off of the prison circuit, we could put something together.

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

It hurt my feelings

TJ Kelly · Post by **TJ Kelly** » Wednesday Dec 14, 2005

The members only portion wasn't mentioned to exclude fans and music supporters.! It was meant in addition to the regular Rockpage. Something for musicians to talk shop in which for the most part would bore the average Joe. Seems like when musicians run into each other that kind of talk always comes up anyway so why not have a section where it can be discussed without each and every post turning into something else. Plus the extra income would help support Rockpage throughout the year and as Paul put it maybe we could expand on what Rockpage can offer such as mp3s or video clips for everyone. Food for thought!

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

That wouldn't work. Everyone who can chip in the $20 or so would only talk in the member's only section, then there would be no chat in the general forums.

Mistress_DB · Post by **Mistress_DB** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

Why not just have Ron put up a seperate forum just for the band guys where they can talk about their gear. With the provisions that anything unrelated to the topic of that forum be removed. Repeat offenders who keep posting unrelated topics in said forum would be banned maybe temporarily at first as a warning then a full total ban after X amount of offensives.

TJ Kelly · Post by **TJ Kelly** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

Mistress_DB wrote:Why not just have Ron put up a seperate forum just for the band guys where they can talk about their gear. With the provisions that anything unrelated to the topic of that forum be removed. Repeat offenders who keep posting unrelated topics in said forum would be banned maybe temporarily at first as a warning then a full total ban after X amount of offensives.

Exactly my point!

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

I think all of you should all stop crying about a seperate page and deal with what you got and remember this is for everybody and not some select few who think their better than everbody else. rock pagees is for the fans as much as its for the great musicians so deal with it .

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

Mistress_DB wrote:Why not just have Ron put up a seperate forum just for the band guys where they can talk about their gear. With the provisions that anything unrelated to the topic of that forum be removed. Repeat offenders who keep posting unrelated topics in said forum would be banned maybe temporarily at first as a warning then a full total ban after X amount of offensives.

It's here already and it's called "Tech Sector."

Ron, in the 'Rules for Conduct,' wrote:Off Topic posts are not prohibited, but should be posted within reason. If a topic that exists is better suited to a post, the post may be moved to that topic. There are some topics that are not appropriate for the forums. All posts are subject to these rules. Excessive off topic posts will be dealt with on a case by case basis. All Forums have a main topic. When starting a new thread, make sure you do so in the proper Forum.

r:>)

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

What trolls?

DMFJ03 · Post by **DMFJ03** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

Why not just come to http://dmfj.proboards40.com/index.cgi and sign up! I'll set up a section and make sure to boot out trolls! I loving kicking people out of things. It's good to be the admin!

no surrender · Post by **no surrender** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

DMFJ03 wrote:Why not just come to http://dmfj.proboards40.com/index.cgi and sign up! I'll set up a section and make sure to boot out trolls! I loving kicking people out of things. It's good to be the admin!

prob why noone posts anything there too

DMFJ03 · Post by **DMFJ03** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

You wouldn't have been posting there either. I would have chucked you out a long time ago.

esa · Post by **esa** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

I seen some problems with that. First, even the trolls are fans of some group so...when that happens and you piss off the fans, attendance at your show (if you happen to be the band of choice) goes down. Now. This is the public forum of "general discussion"....there are other sections in here if you want to talk tech or what not. And it's not like the bands haven't been able to talk turkey about what they gig and what not.
So...if you decided to make a musicians only section, where do people like me fall in? The ones that do their own thing. I sorta am in a band. I sorta play out out places for special events/occasions. I sing with a band on occasion. So, am I a musician? Or because I follow Beyond Reason, The Grimm, Never Enough, Amplified Heet, BJD, etc, religiously and don't have a normal "gig" pattern, does that make me a fan? So, what do you do with the people like me that aren't just fans but were not the full time musicians?

I honestly think that if you have something so important that it can't be discussed on the General Discussion board, then go to one of the other sections and if you're Trolls get in there and you don't want them on your thread, delete them. If not, sorry, you're going to have a lot of hurt feelings here. And besides, you just had two musicians posting about ass cracks and balls. And they are "professional playing out full time giggers" (or whatever you wish to call yourselves)...so, how much more serious can conversation be with all us rabble out of rock page?

I agree with ExZappa, that kinda hurt. I understand it, but it hurts still.

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

DMFJ03 wrote:You wouldn't have been posting there either. I would have chucked you out a long time ago.

DMFJ...check your message board.

TJ Kelly · Post by **TJ Kelly** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

Sorry, girls you can smack my ass when you see me.

Punkinhead · Post by **Punkinhead** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

Unless it is for keeping this board alive, making people pay for a section is a bad idea.

TJ Kelly · Post by **TJ Kelly** » Thursday Dec 15, 2005

It's in addition to the regular Rockpage site.