Sad News from the Squared Circle...

[AtoMikEnRtiA]

Oh, an another shocker for you all .. Bret Hart will be returning to Raw some time this month or next month. This will be the first time he was there since that incident between him and Hbk in 1997. That should be interesting to see.

Its only to sell a book. Nothing major at all, he's had a stroke and Bill Goldberg fucked his neck up so he couldnt possibly wrestle at all ever again. Yes I know, Shawn Michaels was said to be "incapable" of wrestling because of his lower back problems that kept him out of wrestling for 5 years, but this is different - he suffered a stroke, he's not all there anymore.. this will be a 1 or 2 nite thing, or until the book sells enough for him to retire with.

As a wrestling fan, this book selling shit pisses me off. Hell, one of the main reasons I dont like WWE that much is because they have too many segments where wrestling doesnt occur, which is why I watch TNA on Spike TV - all matches, very little window dressing, plus I get to see A.J. Styles, who will be the face of pro wrestling for the next 10 years.

That however doesnt say much. As the VERY BEST wrestler/athelete in the past 20 years. Rob Van Dam, hasn't amounted to shit in WWE - because they havent done anything to push him. That man is better in every aspect of this business than every world champion in the past 6 years (except chris benoit) but then again you think.. who were the world champions in the past 6 years? there werent too many.. HHH, the Rock, Steve Austin, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Mick Foley, Dave Batista, Chris Jericho, Randall K. Orton, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, John Cena, Big Show. That may seem like a lot of names, but keep in mind as a pre-cursor that HHH has been world champion 11 times in the past 6 years, and he's held two stints of holding the belt for longer than a year. In 2003-2004 throughout that entire year, HHH only lost 4 matches, and only 1 was a singles match with NO stipulations - so yeah I may have just listed about 15 names, but most of those guys have held the belt for less than 3 months at a time - my point is.. Rob Van Dam could out-wrestle each and every single one of those "champions" in a match, with exception of Chris Benoit. And yes, RVD could also out-wrestle Kurt Angle due to technicality and RVD being noted as "the best black martial artist in north america".. yet they do NOTHING with him, and then he gets hurt. Its truely sad.

Wow. i just wrote a book haha sorry

[f.sciarrillo]

I knew Brett Hart had a stroke. I didn't know it was as severe as that .. I also didn't know they put TNA on spike tv. The last I watched it, it was on fox sports pitt ..

TNA does have a few of the wrestlers that were in wcw and wwe. It seems to be that quite a few of them are jumping from wwe to tna, it's starting to look like it did when all the wrestlers went from wwe to wcw. I think a lot of the moving to them is the fact that they don't go on the road.

[AtoMikEnRtiA]

I knew Brett Hart had a stroke. I didn't know it was as severe as that .. I also didn't know they put TNA on spike tv. The last I watched it, it was on fox sports pitt ..

TNA does have a few of the wrestlers that were in wcw and wwe. It seems to be that quite a few of them are jumping from wwe to tna, it's starting to look like it did when all the wrestlers went from wwe to wcw. I think a lot of the moving to them is the fact that they don't go on the road.

As much as McMahon and family are trying to prevent is - with scheduling shows at different days and securing talent, TNA is quickly becoming a big threat. New TV contract, great stars, unlimited network money from the people at CBS. In 2 years or less, TNA will be battling WWE tooth and nail for the rights to saying they're the premiere federation in the business, and if they keep up the pace, they may very well over take that claim and not look back. A lot of true wrestling fans are jumping ship for better matches, better action, more intriguing stars and the ever popular "X" division of high flyers.. Its great shit.

[ToonaRockGuy]

A few thoughts here, and keep in mind these are only my opinions.

First, a fact. Yes, TNA is now on Spike. They went into negotiations right after it was revealed that Vince was taking WWE back to USA. They run their Impact tapings twice a week on latenight, since Spike wants to push UFC more than TNA. TNA used to be on Fox, but their contract came up, and they actually had no TV home for about 5 months, having to wait until the WWE move to get back on TV.

Now, for my thoughts/opinions:

TNA: I hate it. I do like some of the talent that they have, I do like the idea of the six-sided ring, and the Ultimate X Matches they have from time to time. But I can't stand the fact that the talent that they have for the most part are untalented WWE castoffs (Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy), spotmonkeys (AJ Styles, Petey Williams, Shark Boy, Chris Sabin, Sonny Siaki), or guys who really have no business being in the ring anymore (KEVIN NASH, , Konnan, Sabu, Sean "X-Pac" Waltman, Kip "Billy Gunn" James).

When I watch wrestling (yes, I am a "Smark"), I want to see a story told in the ring. A TNA match typically is a race to see how many big spots the two participants can hit in the time limit. They don't take time to sell the moves, they don't tell any story at all. It's just move, move, move move, movemovemovemovemoveI'maspotmonkeymovemovemove *BAM* pinfall. Tell me a story. Let me feel the pain that you are feeling in the match. Show me how much you hate the wrestler that you are facing.

Plus, TNA has two big things wrong with it.
1. Jeff Jarrett. This guy is worse than HHH in holding down talent. Every single TNA Heavyweight Champion is just a placeholder until JJ decides he wants the title back, period. He positioned himself as the top guy in the company, when AJ Styles is the future of TNA. That's the kind of stroke you have when you own TNA. Plus, Jarrett owns the single weakest finsher in the business, "The Stroke". Boring.

2. They can't afford to tour. They are trying to compete with WWE without the revenue to take the show on the road. That in itself dooms TNA to forever being a distant second to WWE.


WWE Thoughts:

As long as HHH is on the roster, you really can't buy anyone as a legit WWE Champion on RAW. Because you know that since he has wormed his way into the family, he can have the title handed back to him any time he wants, and that's sad.

I've enjoyed a mix of good and band recently in WWE.

The good: I was enjoying Eddie Guererro's face turn, especially since you never knew (given his history) if the turn was legit or not. I still am a huge Kurt Angle mark, and I hate the guy. But he is one of the best ever, and no, I'm not saying that lightly. Angle has that rare ability to make anyone look good in a match, and tell a great story in it. Benoit is another one that I enjoy, and I really hope that they run another Angle/Benoit feud somewhere down the road.

The bad: The Boogeyman. Have you seen this idiot yet? WWE ran a long series of teasers leading to his onscreen debut, and I was thinking that this character could be a great evil, dark, Undertaker/Kane/Mankind type of heel (bad guy). Instead...*groan*...we get this...



That's right, Darth Maul exploded, worked out, and lost MOST OF HIS FRICKIN' TEETH. I especially love the fake plastic heart necklace that he wears. It looks *SOOOOO* real. Are you KIDDING ME? This is scary?

And that's just the first part of the bad. Smackdown is awful. I'd rant on, but I too, have written a novel, and must depart.

[ChaosRisingRice]

A few thoughts here, and keep in mind these are only my opinions.

First, a fact. Yes, TNA is now on Spike. They went into negotiations right after it was revealed that Vince was taking WWE back to USA. They run their Impact tapings twice a week on latenight, since Spike wants to push UFC more than TNA. TNA used to be on Fox, but their contract came up, and they actually had no TV home for about 5 months, having to wait until the WWE move to get back on TV.

Now, for my thoughts/opinions:

TNA: I hate it. I do like some of the talent that they have, I do like the idea of the six-sided ring, and the Ultimate X Matches they have from time to time. But I can't stand the fact that the talent that they have for the most part are untalented WWE castoffs (Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy), spotmonkeys (AJ Styles, Petey Williams, Shark Boy, Chris Sabin, Sonny Siaki), or guys who really have no business being in the ring anymore (KEVIN NASH, , Konnan, Sabu, Sean "X-Pac" Waltman, Kip "Billy Gunn" James).

When I watch wrestling (yes, I am a "Smark"), I want to see a story told in the ring. A TNA match typically is a race to see how many big spots the two participants can hit in the time limit. They don't take time to sell the moves, they don't tell any story at all. It's just move, move, move move, movemovemovemovemoveI'maspotmonkeymovemovemove *BAM* pinfall. Tell me a story. Let me feel the pain that you are feeling in the match. Show me how much you hate the wrestler that you are facing.

Plus, TNA has two big things wrong with it.
1. Jeff Jarrett. This guy is worse than HHH in holding down talent. Every single TNA Heavyweight Champion is just a placeholder until JJ decides he wants the title back, period. He positioned himself as the top guy in the company, when AJ Styles is the future of TNA. That's the kind of stroke you have when you own TNA. Plus, Jarrett owns the single weakest finsher in the business, "The Stroke". Boring.

2. They can't afford to tour. They are trying to compete with WWE without the revenue to take the show on the road. That in itself dooms TNA to forever being a distant second to WWE.


WWE Thoughts:

As long as HHH is on the roster, you really can't buy anyone as a legit WWE Champion on RAW. Because you know that since he has wormed his way into the family, he can have the title handed back to him any time he wants, and that's sad.

I've enjoyed a mix of good and band recently in WWE.

The good: I was enjoying Eddie Guererro's face turn, especially since you never knew (given his history) if the turn was legit or not. I still am a huge Kurt Angle mark, and I hate the guy. But he is one of the best ever, and no, I'm not saying that lightly. Angle has that rare ability to make anyone look good in a match, and tell a great story in it. Benoit is another one that I enjoy, and I really hope that they run another Angle/Benoit feud somewhere down the road.

The bad: The Boogeyman. Have you seen this idiot yet? WWE ran a long series of teasers leading to his onscreen debut, and I was thinking that this character could be a great evil, dark, Undertaker/Kane/Mankind type of heel (bad guy). Instead...*groan*...we get this...



That's right, Darth Maul exploded, worked out, and lost MOST OF HIS FRICKIN' TEETH. I especially love the fake plastic heart necklace that he wears. It looks *SOOOOO* real. Are you KIDDING ME? This is scary?

And that's just the first part of the bad. Smackdown is awful. I'd rant on, but I too, have written a novel, and must depart.

I try from time to time to watch wrestling. But i just can't do it anymore. I kinda miss flipping the channels back and forth on monday nights between wwf and wcw. Gave you a variety. TNA wrestling doesn't do that. I have watched WWE 4 times in the past 4 years ever since i have started working two jobs and now i can't do it anymore. I don't know who is who. some wrestlers need to retire already. And just let things go. I don't even know when smackdown comes on anymore. Is it on a friday now. I think wrestling has changed for the worst anyway. But try to watch it when i can. As for TNA making it. I don't see that happening. It is like Toonarockguy said. Most of them are with no talent. WWE rejects. I think xpac is probably the biggest loser out of all of them. But hey that might be just my opinion. As for the boogeyman i dont' know what to think about that. Other than a big laugh. But i guess i will have to watch and to see what he can do. I doubt it will be interesting. This is the first time i have heard of the boogeyman

[RobTheDrummer]

I'll tell you what, nothing scares me more than a guy holding a stick with feathers electrical taped to it....oh and that clock is downright FREAKY! OMG! Such symbolism....Who goes to bed at...wait...8 1/2 'O clock?

[AtoMikEnRtiA]

A few thoughts here, and keep in mind these are only my opinions.

First, a fact. Yes, TNA is now on Spike. They went into negotiations right after it was revealed that Vince was taking WWE back to USA. They run their Impact tapings twice a week on latenight, since Spike wants to push UFC more than TNA. TNA used to be on Fox, but their contract came up, and they actually had no TV home for about 5 months, having to wait until the WWE move to get back on TV.

Now, for my thoughts/opinions:

TNA: I hate it. I do like some of the talent that they have, I do like the idea of the six-sided ring, and the Ultimate X Matches they have from time to time. But I can't stand the fact that the talent that they have for the most part are untalented WWE castoffs (Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy), spotmonkeys (AJ Styles, Petey Williams, Shark Boy, Chris Sabin, Sonny Siaki), or guys who really have no business being in the ring anymore (KEVIN NASH, , Konnan, Sabu, Sean "X-Pac" Waltman, Kip "Billy Gunn" James).

When I watch wrestling (yes, I am a "Smark"), I want to see a story told in the ring. A TNA match typically is a race to see how many big spots the two participants can hit in the time limit. They don't take time to sell the moves, they don't tell any story at all. It's just move, move, move move, movemovemovemovemoveI'maspotmonkeymovemovemove *BAM* pinfall. Tell me a story. Let me feel the pain that you are feeling in the match. Show me how much you hate the wrestler that you are facing.

Plus, TNA has two big things wrong with it.
1. Jeff Jarrett. This guy is worse than HHH in holding down talent. Every single TNA Heavyweight Champion is just a placeholder until JJ decides he wants the title back, period. He positioned himself as the top guy in the company, when AJ Styles is the future of TNA. That's the kind of stroke you have when you own TNA. Plus, Jarrett owns the single weakest finsher in the business, "The Stroke". Boring.

2. They can't afford to tour. They are trying to compete with WWE without the revenue to take the show on the road. That in itself dooms TNA to forever being a distant second to WWE.


WWE Thoughts:

As long as HHH is on the roster, you really can't buy anyone as a legit WWE Champion on RAW. Because you know that since he has wormed his way into the family, he can have the title handed back to him any time he wants, and that's sad.

I've enjoyed a mix of good and band recently in WWE.

The good: I was enjoying Eddie Guererro's face turn, especially since you never knew (given his history) if the turn was legit or not. I still am a huge Kurt Angle mark, and I hate the guy. But he is one of the best ever, and no, I'm not saying that lightly. Angle has that rare ability to make anyone look good in a match, and tell a great story in it. Benoit is another one that I enjoy, and I really hope that they run another Angle/Benoit feud somewhere down the road.

The bad: The Boogeyman. Have you seen this idiot yet? WWE ran a long series of teasers leading to his onscreen debut, and I was thinking that this character could be a great evil, dark, Undertaker/Kane/Mankind type of heel (bad guy). Instead...*groan*...we get this...



That's right, Darth Maul exploded, worked out, and lost MOST OF HIS FRICKIN' TEETH. I especially love the fake plastic heart necklace that he wears. It looks *SOOOOO* real. Are you KIDDING ME? This is scary?

And that's just the first part of the bad. Smackdown is awful. I'd rant on, but I too, have written a novel, and must depart.

While i agree with SOME of what you just stated - I couldnt disagree with you more on Jeff Hardy and A.J. Styles..

Jeff Hardy is one of the best high flyers to come into pro wrestling in years. I say high flyer because he's white, and from North Carolina - he's too heavy to me a cruiserweight and not latino so he cant be a luchadore. His matches are simply brilliance when he unleashes his entire arsenal of high flying manuevers. You dont see much of this in Hardy because he has other interests, namely a metal band - that really hasnt done all that much despite him being of celebrity status.

A.J. Styles is the future of Pro Wrestling PERIOD. Not just TNA but the entire sport. Mark my words, in 20 years - he will be the standard of excellence in professional wrestling..

Jeff Jarrett is just horrible, in the ring as well as out - but his characters are funny. I still own a "dont piss me off" t-shirt, and the nite he defected to WCW and attacked a woman saying "last nite i got beat by a woman" was priceless, and then the whole "slapnuts" thing was priceless. Its great to see Raven finally winning a world championship of sorts - just a shame he's almost 50 and wont hold it for long.

HHH is the cancer that will kill the WWE. Simple as that - nobody will ever get anywhere unless he is in their inner circle, which many a wrestler refuses to put themselves in, as it automatically causes their credibility and respect value to go down.

Boogeyman is going to be a fucking disaster, almost as much as Nathan Jones. What the WWE desperately needs is Brock Lesnar to come back. And they need John Cena to become un-cool because he simply sucks. You eliminate his "rapper" gimmick, and I promise you - he's mid-card level at best.

Some of the talent WWE needs get/push to the top:

Rob Van Dam
Shelton Benjamin
Renee Dupree
Rob Conway
SHANE Helms
Super Crazy
"Eugene" <--- eliminate this gimmick
Muhammad Hassan <--- he had the potential for being the best heel in 15 years, but they got rid of him because of the London bombings.. he was an awesome character and a better wrestler
Christian <--- recently left the WWE. He'll be back.
Chris Masters
Nova <--- eliminate the Simon Dean character

[GoneForever]

Christian is with TNA now.

[Bert|Evil]

I still remember the night after Owen Hart died and they dedicated the whole episode to him. It was one of the most classy things I've ever seen. I remember they were doing mini-interviews before the commercials and Road Dawg was welling up with tears.

What ever happened to Road Dawg?

"Ladies and gentlemen..."

I believe that Vince fired him over drug abuse. I don't know if it was steriods or not.

Sooooo... if we can just get HHH to this other league, we can have a DX reunion!

[Banned]

A.J. Styles is the future of Pro Wrestling PERIOD. Not just TNA but the entire sport. Mark my words, in 20 years - he will be the standard of excellence in professional wrestling..

Ya know, A.J. Styles hasn't quite won me over yet. The guy is an incredible athlete, no doubt, and does some eye-popping stuff (gotta love the Pelé kick). But there's something missing somewhere. Maybe it's that his look is too generic. Maybe he needs more mic skills. Maybe TNA needs to give him more character development.

TNA guys who are doing it for me:

Samoa Joe - Intense and nasty! And his ring music rips off the vintage Godzilla theme. Love it.
Monty Brown - Call me crazy, but this guy has "it". Whatever "it" is.
Sonjay Dutt - Frickin' hilarious, and even more agile than AJ.
Christian Cage - Because that's how he rolls.
Alex Shelley - A jobber, but he shows a lot of personality.

Where is Low Ki? Low Ki is the shizz.

How do you guys feel about Jim Ross' "firing"? At first it ticked me off, because no one calls it like JR. But I can see why he's gone. No matter how good he is, he's not fresh any more. We've been hearing his voice for so long that he no longer has as much impact as he did a decade ago.

[Staceman]

Hey, at least gimmicks like The Boogeyman gives www.wrestlecrap.com new material!

TNA has potential, but like others stated, as long as Jeff Jarrett keeps getting the title every other month, they're not going anywhere. He's just not very believable as a champion. The time sure is right though, with WWE dealing out a lot of wrestlecrap material as of late. The whole firing J.R. thing, and the resulting hospital skit, was very dumb and embarrassing.

I haven't been keeping up with TNA, but isn't A.J. Styles the guy that kinda looks and talks like Kiano Reeves, and started out in MCW when it was on TV briefly? (Sunshine Network) I can't remember what he went by there, but I seem to remember them really playing up the Kiano Reeves thing. Upon looking around the net for pics, I'm pretty sure I got the wrong person here...

Though I don't do it as much as I used to, I keep up somewhat with what's going on backstage on the various news sites. And the last thing I seen regarding Bret Hart and WWE, was that he was working with them to promote an upcoming DVD about his career. They say that if you don't make up with WWE when they're about to make one of those, they make you look really bad in it, which Hart didn't want (look at the Ultimate Warrior DVD). So, he agreed to work with them on a limited basis, and I doubt this includes a Raw appearance. Though I'd love to see that, it's very unlikely. It's been said that if anything, he might work with TNA some when the WWE thing is done with, but probably not to wrestle. But never say never; the stroke he had wasn't very major, he wrecked a bike when it happened, suffered slightly slurred speech at first, but is said to be in pretty good shape nowadays.

But I could be wrong, I'm not going to argue with a bunch of smarks here.

On a different note, did anyone get to meet Axl Rotten when he was hanging out at, and eventually working as a DJ at The Warehouse in Bedford earlier this year? Isn't that messed up? For what it's worth, my wife got her T-shirt from the wet T-shirt contest signed by him, lol

[f.sciarrillo]

The main prowess for TNA came about from a group of guys who used to be on WCW that did not want to go to, or were good enough for WWE. It does have some potential, it will take a while for it to match what wcw was. I still say that Nitro before Vince Russo, the idiot, was the best .. Russo flat out killed it. The only complaint about Nitro was that they took the NWO gimmick to freaking far ! Then they tried to put it in the WWE, you seen where that ended up. Nash getting hurt, Hall being a drunk, and hogan just not being able to be a heel to the fans.

I also feel that as long as HHH is in the WWE you will never see a very long run of a champion. At least not like it was with hogan, who was world champion for 9 flipping years straight. But then that was before raw and the only time you seen him was on the PPV's, or the Saturday morning wwf cartoon.

They do need to come up with more story lines, remove Steff from writing for raw, she is hot, but her story lines are just to ridiculous. For example, that lita and kane baby thing ?? what the flip was that ?? I got so sick of it that I quit watching raw for a couple of months.

They also do need to push the talent better, not have them under the shadow of HHH. You know the funny thing with that is that when HHH first came in he was under the shadow of HBK and dating Chyna, now that he dumped chyna and married steff, he is the biggest jackass in the business. For the longest time the stories were based around him. It got old very quick.

I do like the fact the John Cena has the belt now, I do not like the fact that they are trying to make him a fred dersh rapping idiot. Oh No, he's pumping them up !! Look out !! what an idiot .. The fans love him though ..

Something I hate about it is that diva search. It makes me laugh to see them take someone who has no talent off the street and give them a contract because they win a contest. There are people who have been busting their buts for years and still can't get noticed by the wwe. It makes you wonder some times. Also, I think raw was turning more towards adult entertainment for a while there. It was getting to riske .. Case in point, the sabil hands painted over boobs incident at one of the ppv's.

It has changed a lot over the years. To much to and mention.

Last note .. I want JR back !! I hate that new announcer. He is soooooo boring. I think he should go back to the UFC ..

And yes, Sean "X-Pac" Waltmin is the most untalented morons to ever grace the ring. He has been playing that dx thing way to long. I was glad when he left.

[Staceman]

The main prowess for TNA came about from a group of guys who used to be on WCW that did not want to go to, or were good enough for WWE. It does have some potential, it will take a while for it to match what wcw was. I still say that Nitro before Vince Russo, the idiot, was the best .. Russo flat out killed it. The only complaint about Nitro was that they took the NWO gimmick to freaking far ! Then they tried to put it in the WWE, you seen where that ended up. Nash getting hurt, Hall being a drunk, and hogan just not being able to be a heel to the fans.

Personally, I think WcW had a chance when Russo first came aboard. He was doing well, until he attempted to bring the nWo back yet again, this time under the silver & black banner, with Bret Hart at the helm. Kevin Sullivan jumped all over this as an opportunity to grab power, going to the higher-ups claiming he could do a better job, and it worked. Sullivan has a history of terrible angles and gimmicks, and is notorious for being one of the ones that hold the younger talent back in favor of the old names. All the young guys were starting to move into the limelight under Russo, and thus they knew they were doomed yet again when Sullivan took over; The very same night Sullivan was put in charge, is when Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrerro, Dean Malenko, and Shane Douglas quit WcW. Sullivan ran the company further into the ground (remember the Varsity Club? ouch.), and by the time Russo was allowed to come back, it was way too late to save it.

Last note .. I want JR back !! I hate that new announcer. He is soooooo boring. I think he should go back to the UFC ..

I didn't pay much attention to this past week's show, but I thought Joey Styles was going to be on Raw now? Or was that just a two-off thing? (the PPV, and Raw the next night) I like Styles' play by play. Many people probably didn't even know who he was.

[AtoMikEnRtiA]

Last note .. I want JR back !! I hate that new announcer. He is soooooo boring. I think he should go back to the UFC ..

You're kidding me right? Joey Styles is the best commentator in the history of Pro Wrestling. he may not have cliches like "oh my, oh my" or dumb redneck phrases or wear a signature cowboy hat, but in a truely good match, Joey Styles is the greatest commentator in the business - watch an ECW match, Styles goes nuts whenever something just happens out of the blue with his patented "oh my god!"

J.R. is gone, because he decided to move back to Oklahoma and work from there instead of Stamford. Not too many people know this, but he is VP of talent relations and is needed in Stamford, CT - so when he decided to move back home, McMahon and him had kind of a falling out - which is why he's gone, that and he just had surgery for i think his colon.

[Staceman]

J.R. is gone, because he decided to move back to Oklahoma and work from there instead of Stamford. Not too many people know this, but he is VP of talent relations and is needed in Stamford, CT - so when he decided to move back home, McMahon and him had kind of a falling out - which is why he's gone, that and he just had surgery for i think his colon.

I'm not sure about all of that. I thought it was because McMahon wanted younger commentators, and thus took JR off TV, and let him concentrate on his behind the scenes duties, along with time off for the surgery thing. Plus, when they really do let someone go, they're usually just gone, without any mention of it on television, as if they never existed. When it's real, they don't make big skits up flaunting the fact that they fired them.

[bassist_25]

I've always liked J.R. He has a great dynamic with Jerry the King.

[AtoMikEnRtiA]

J.R. is gone, because he decided to move back to Oklahoma and work from there instead of Stamford. Not too many people know this, but he is VP of talent relations and is needed in Stamford, CT - so when he decided to move back home, McMahon and him had kind of a falling out - which is why he's gone, that and he just had surgery for i think his colon.

I'm not sure about all of that. I thought it was because McMahon wanted younger commentators, and thus took JR off TV, and let him concentrate on his behind the scenes duties, along with time off for the surgery thing. Plus, when they really do let someone go, they're usually just gone, without any mention of it on television, as if they never existed. When it's real, they don't make big skits up flaunting the fact that they fired them.

well whatever it was, is real and not scripted - because Steve Austin decided to NOT come back when he heard J.R. was taken off - Jim Ross isn't very happy right now, and if you think about it - the majority of wrestling fans love Jim Ross, so it's in McMahon's best interests to NOT get rid of him - so it has to be something serious back stage - his on air duty has never interfeared with his work as VP of talent, so there has to be something going on behind the scenes..

[f.sciarrillo]

I think with all the problems they have had, and are having with austin might have something to do with jr also. I knew he was vp of talent. I think he will be back .. Hard to say when though. Look what happen with Lawler, he litterly quit, a couple of months later he came back .

I think the chemistry with JR and Lawler is the best that it can be. They make the show, I can't stand the coach. I guess I could get used to styles, but it will take a while. Maybe at the point I finally do they will bring jr back ..