What is Up In Altoona?

[ZappasXWife]

YankeeRose wrote:
MORE Jail time for people with addictive personalities? What will that solve in the grand scheme of things ...

not sure about the grand scheme of things, but prison IS a place where many many people have successfully kicked. I know what you'll say, 'no way there's lots of drugs in prison', but I truly believe an addict would find it much easier to score on the street (or maybe a halfway house)than in prison. I mean its just common sense. Now, the thing to do is to make more room in over-crowded prisons for these high-level dealers, and the addicts who are also doing their share of dealing to keep up the habit, and not impose ridiculous sentences on people that are smoking pot.
as far as rreihart's 'um no...' where do you live dude?

[Banned]

I say bring back public hangings, stockades, etc. for the offenders! Let's
see how they respond when people are throwing their "garbage" at them
since they want to bring their garbage to our homes/areas. I think they would think it over about bringing their shit to our area when they are pissing/crapping their pants while people throw shit at them and their eyes are bugging out on the end of a rope! I' ve lived in
different towns all over this area, and it's the same everywhere you go.
You can't rehab the majority of these folks. I agree addiction is a horrible thing to shake, but others shouldn't suffer because of your problems.
Keep your shit to yourself! People who are shooting at other people, or
"shooting up" typically have little to no regard for life. Stop making excuses for them. The police generally try to do their jobs, but the attorneys either get them off or the courts give them a slap on the wrist.
Until everyone is on the same page with the problem, unfortunately it will
continue to increase. I pray for us all!

STAY SAFE

[Bit*chenWomen1029]

i agree skip

[no surrender]

"say hello to my little friend !"
KAAAPOW !!

lmao!

[SpellboundByMetal]

id much rather smoke weed than drink alcohol!!!!
alcohol causes people to act like assholes and/or jackasses.
alcohol kills. weed doesnt. alcohol makes you violent. weed doesnt.
i dont consider weed a drug. no matter what you say, i wont buy into it.
weed grows naturally. its is the BEST anti-depressant. it returns life to the lifeless.
crack,cocaine, heroin, meth and all that shit is just stupid. THOSE are DRUGS. man-made for destructive reasons.
ive NEVER killed anyone or stole anything to get pot, hahaha.
i doubt any of you would admit to smoking pot on here, but i can assure you: plenty of you do. i would do anything to banish hard drugs from this area. hard drugs do nothing but ruin lives. NONE of it can be blamed on weed. i am fortunate enough to know the dangers of hard drugs and alcohol. im not bashing anyone for being an alcoholic, do what you wanna do.
my grandfather was in alcohols grip so bad, that he would drink aftershave just to get drunk. now THATS fuckin bad.
of course , were forgetting pills. too many people are addicted to pain pills and nerve pills.
the drug industry is booming for dealers. they wanna live like rappers off of other people's misery. nothing makes me sicker than a crack dealer or heroin dealer. they are selling death to the weak.

[SavageHeart]

Where to begin!!! I'll never hit everything I want to address, but here goes..... I work in the drug & alcohol field. I am very familiar with the halfway houses in Altoona. Not everyone who is in a halfway house is a criminal. I have known many people who have conquered their addiction....it is not useless and people do get better. Also, rehab is a very short term process...usually 7 to 14 days. Nobody's family relocates when someone is in a rehab. Rehabs and Halfway Houses are two different things. There are many different kinds of Halfway Houses. The majority of people who stay in a halfway house DO NOT RELOCATE. I know many functioning addicts that are not the scum people that we think of when we think of "druggies". Many people who are addicted are moms, dads, neighbors, teachers, doctors, lawyers, etc. My point being that we cannot generalize addiction. There is not one person that has not known an addict...you just may not realize it. I am not defending the actions that have been brought up. I also agree that we need tougher drug laws....I also agree that we need to go after the higher-ups....but that doesn't make using illegal drugs ok. I know many people who have screwed up their lives from "just weed". Most people that I know who sell weed sell other shit too. So it's okay that you buy your weed from them but you don't want them selling "harder" drugs to others? It doesn't work like that. I am also not saying that the drug related crime in our area is not appalling...it is. But guess what, it is everywhere. But also know that we ship our addicts to other communities, too. It's not like Altoona is the only place you can go to rehab, or halfway house, or to a local dealer. And yes people are going to philly and other places to buy drugs.....but many of the people selling drugs in our area are from our area. As for prevention....there are alot of good programs out there. Try getting some of them into schools where you aren't allowed to talk about certain things or show certain things. People in our society are "sue" happy and everyone is concerned about liability. I could go on and on, but....

[Pure Evil]

This place sucks worse every year. I hate how we're a small town trying to be the big bad city.

I remember when a knife in a fight was the most we had to worry about. Good to know we've gratuated to guns.

people = shit

[Bit*chenWomen1029]

id much rather smoke weed than drink alcohol!!!!
alcohol causes people to act like assholes and/or jackasses.
alcohol kills. weed doesnt. alcohol makes you violent. weed doesnt.
i dont consider weed a drug. no matter what you say, i wont buy into it.
weed grows naturally. its is the BEST anti-depressant. it returns life to the lifeless.
crack,cocaine, heroin, meth and all that shit is just stupid. THOSE are DRUGS. man-made for destructive reasons.
ive NEVER killed anyone or stole anything to get pot, hahaha.
i doubt any of you would admit to smoking pot on here, but i can assure you: plenty of you do. i would do anything to banish hard drugs from this area. hard drugs do nothing but ruin lives. NONE of it can be blamed on weed. i am fortunate enough to know the dangers of hard drugs and alcohol. im not bashing anyone for being an alcoholic, do what you wanna do.
my grandfather was in alcohols grip so bad, that he would drink aftershave just to get drunk. now THATS fuckin bad.
of course , were forgetting pills. too many people are addicted to pain pills and nerve pills.
the drug industry is booming for dealers. they wanna live like rappers off of other people's misery. nothing makes me sicker than a crack dealer or heroin dealer. they are selling death to the weak.

you might not have stole or killed for weed , but it is A DRUG YOU DAMN MORON!!!
THe Altoona area is drunks and druggies !!! Thats the facts..... not that i am complaining cause if it were'nt for those people who drink then bands wouldnt be able to play bars ,However that is mostly what altoona has become!!!

ALL dealers are selling death to the weak,, WEED WILL KILL you also, its just a slower way.... your life turns to shit on weed, if you smoke everyday allday long ,usually you cant remember what happened yesterday, you twist stories all around, you cant hold down a normal job, and you look like shit 24-7...... so weed does get you just like the "HARDER " drugs!!1


IM' sorry but its people with your thought of mind that make youngsters think drugs are ok!!! you are probably one of those people who would sell weed to teens " cause its dont kill people" .... WELL STAY THE HELL OUTTA MY NEIGHBORHOOD!!

" if you dont like my opinion, DONT read it"

[lonewolf]

Where to begin!!! I'll never hit everything I want to address, but here goes..... I work in the drug & alcohol field. I am very familiar with the halfway houses in Altoona. Not everyone who is in a halfway house is a criminal.

The tenants in all correctional system halfway houses, BY DEFINITION are convicted criminals. All have served prison time and still have parole time on their sentences.

To say anything else is irresponsible and simply false.

[bassist_25]

id much rather smoke weed than drink alcohol!!!!
alcohol causes people to act like assholes and/or jackasses.
alcohol kills. weed doesnt. alcohol makes you violent. weed doesnt.
i dont consider weed a drug. no matter what you say, i wont buy into it.
weed grows naturally. its is the BEST anti-depressant. it returns life to the lifeless.
crack,cocaine, heroin, meth and all that shit is just stupid. THOSE are DRUGS. man-made for destructive reasons.
ive NEVER killed anyone or stole anything to get pot, hahaha.
i doubt any of you would admit to smoking pot on here, but i can assure you: plenty of you do. i would do anything to banish hard drugs from this area. hard drugs do nothing but ruin lives. NONE of it can be blamed on weed. i am fortunate enough to know the dangers of hard drugs and alcohol. im not bashing anyone for being an alcoholic, do what you wanna do.
my grandfather was in alcohols grip so bad, that he would drink aftershave just to get drunk. now THATS fuckin bad.
of course , were forgetting pills. too many people are addicted to pain pills and nerve pills.
the drug industry is booming for dealers. they wanna live like rappers off of other people's misery. nothing makes me sicker than a crack dealer or heroin dealer. they are selling death to the weak.

you might not have stole or killed for weed , but it is A DRUG YOU DAMN MORON!!!
THe Altoona area is drunks and druggies !!! Thats the facts..... not that i am complaining cause if it were'nt for those people who drink then bands wouldnt be able to play bars ,However that is mostly what altoona has become!!!

ALL dealers are selling death to the weak,, WEED WILL KILL you also, its just a slower way.... your life turns to shit on weed, if you smoke everyday allday long ,usually you cant remember what happened yesterday, you twist stories all around, you cant hold down a normal job, and you look like shit 24-7...... so weed does get you just like the "HARDER " drugs!!1


IM' sorry but its people with your thought of mind that make youngsters think drugs are ok!!! you are probably one of those people who would sell weed to teens " cause its dont kill people" .... WELL STAY THE HELL OUTTA MY NEIGHBORHOOD!!

" if you dont like my opinion, DONT read it"

All drugs from simple cough medicine (which can produce effects that rival the best acid) to herion have the potential to be abused. The reason why marijuana is a schedule one drug is because that it has no official (emphasis on "official") medical uses. If it did, I'd be certain that it would be classified as schedule four or five. MDMA (better known on the street as "Ecstacy"), was used legally in clinical psychiatric practice up until the late 80's. Then some government dillholes just decided out of nowhere that they didn't like the fact that people were achieving positive results with the drugs, so they took them off of the market. I recognize the potential nuerological damage that may result from MDMA abuse, but as a student of psychology, I would like legalized testing to recommence so we could see if there are in fact any clinical uses for the drug. Unfortuantley, people who don't know their asses from holes in the ground are making decisions regarding the development of science, and we may never know if many of these drugs do in fact have medical uses. I suggest reading work from many of the scientist who actually studied pyscho-actives, such as Timothy Leary and Dennis McKenna, instead of the propaganda machine that radiates from the television screen. I don't condone nor condemn drug use, nor do I condone the actions of junkies looking for a fix, but I do condemn ignorance. And the War on Drugs is full of a lot of ignorance.

But I do find it hypocritical to condone recreational use for one drug just because it's legal, yet condemn the use of another drug on the grounds of it being illegal. Much of the crime that surrounds marijuana is do to it being sold on a black market. If there's a strong enough demand for a certain product, it will be forced into a black market. That's where the crime exist. Unfortunatley, a lot of people would be losing money if marijuana use became legal.

As far as Altoona's situation is concerned: There are parts of the town that I personally would not walk through after dark. I remember reading a report somewhere that said the town had one of the higest unemployment rates in the northern part of the United States. A.G. Gastone once said that if you want to empower people, you must first empower them at the economic level. Unfortunatley, I don't see the economy growing around here anytime soon.

[SpellboundByMetal]

bitchen- i dont know what kind of freaks you know, but thats not me.
we all have our opinions. hahaha im a damn moron. cool, thank you.
ive never gotten drunk and beaten a woman. i wonder how many people on here have. ive never gotten drunk and wrecked a car. i wonder how many people on here have. weed vs. alcohol is an ongoing argument that will last forever. i dont expect MY choice to bother anyone. marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. people that wanna go on to more, do just that....and they LOVE excuses.


"youngsters" are gonna do whatever they want to do, regardless of what they hear or see. the parents dont care obviously.
i dont care if my recreational choice makes you think im a moron or a loser. i dont get into trouble. i keep to myself. it doesnt affect ANYONE else but me.
i DONT sell drugs to teens. i dont sell drugs. i dont do drugs. watch the documentary called "GRASS". you may change your mind. you think its a "DRUG" because the gov't tells you it is. american indians smoked weed. ever heard of a peace pipe? yeah, they were raging druggies, huh? haha
you'd be surprised home many people smoke on here and everywhere. politicians, cops, teachers, doctors, preachers, talk show hosts.
i dont think they prescribe medicinal crack, do they? why would your gov't let marijuana be medicinal if its SOOOOO bad? watch "GRASS" before you call everyone under the sun a druggie, please.
cancer patients and aids patients are all druggies according to you. i dont expect for anyone to be "pro pot", but to label cheech or myself as a druggie is just wrong. i dont do it because "it doesnt kill people" i do what i do because its MY choice and MY body. hemp is a VERY useful product. say that it isnt, and youre just lying to yourself.
everything is so "us vs them".

hell yeah to bassist 25

[tornandfrayed]

There is a difference between people who honestly want to start over and people who are habitual criminals. The problem here is that criminals have way to many rights. We are constantly trying to "Reabilitate" and most of the habitual offenders are not buying it.

The Blair County Court House knows the Hollidaysburg Junior High School jokingly as "Heroin Alley", yet they do nothing about it. They do nothing because they are afraid to infringe upon the rights of the children! I blatantly told the Board that is Bullshit my child has no rights. If you think he is involved in drugs then you better tell me about it or I will come kick your ass.
They really don't want to hear that.

Should people be given a chance to wipe the slat clean? Or course, but you have to be able t6o call a spade a spade and that is where people have problems. We love to create "grey" areas and then procrastinate based on our findings.

We will litigate our Fu*&^ing Country to death and then wonder "What the heck happened?" America's strength has been built on our ability to watch each others backs, on Family Values and Yes Here it Goes, on our Belief in God. We have taken God out of our lives and therefore their are no "long term" repercussions to our actions.

I say bring back strength in our Families, our Friends, our Schools and our Belief in God. Choose your own spiritual word for divine entity.

Call it what you will.

One Nation, Under God, Indivisible with
Liberty and Justice for ALL!

[Geetarzz]

The bottom line is.....heroin is a plague. It destroys everything that it comes in contact with. Some people will try to push it off, others will try to defend the people that they love that are involved with it, but the sad truth of it is, it's stronger than anything. It's stronger than all of the love in the world, it's stronger than even the greatest sexual urge. It's stronger than any bond (family or friend) that ever was. It is stronger than the need to take in nourishment. It is stronger than self respect. I've seen what it does firsthand. And I will NOT defend or try to make excuses for what it does just because I loved the person that has done this to themself. It's a fucking plague, and anybody that does this should go to jail. At least they are less likely to kill themselves there. They are not sick, they are broken.

[Bit*chenWomen1029]

bitchen- i dont know what kind of freaks you know, but thats not me.
we all have our opinions. hahaha im a damn moron. cool, thank you.
ive never gotten drunk and beaten a woman. i wonder how many people on here have. ive never gotten drunk and wrecked a car. i wonder how many people on here have. weed vs. alcohol is an ongoing argument that will last forever. i dont expect MY choice to bother anyone. marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. people that wanna go on to more, do just that....and they LOVE excuses.


"youngsters" are gonna do whatever they want to do, regardless of what they hear or see. the parents dont care obviously.
i dont care if my recreational choice makes you think im a moron or a loser. i dont get into trouble. i keep to myself. it doesnt affect ANYONE else but me.
i DONT sell drugs to teens. i dont sell drugs. i dont do drugs. watch the documentary called "GRASS". you may change your mind. you think its a "DRUG" because the gov't tells you it is. american indians smoked weed. ever heard of a peace pipe? yeah, they were raging druggies, huh? haha
you'd be surprised home many people smoke on here and everywhere. politicians, cops, teachers, doctors, preachers, talk show hosts.
i dont think they prescribe medicinal crack, do they? why would your gov't let marijuana be medicinal if its SOOOOO bad? watch "GRASS" before you call everyone under the sun a druggie, please.
cancer patients and aids patients are all druggies according to you. i dont expect for anyone to be "pro pot", but to label cheech or myself as a druggie is just wrong. i dont do it because "it doesnt kill people" i do what i do because its MY choice and MY body. hemp is a VERY useful product. say that it isnt, and youre just lying to yourself.
everything is so "us vs them".

hell yeah to bassist 25

I'm sorry but watching any Documentary "GRASS" isnt gonna change my mind on drugs (weed). I was raised this way and i thank my dear mother for me being like this!!! I dont listen to the fu*king government. I dont agree with shit they say. So if they were to tell me if i ate a pile of dog shit i'd be rich, i'd tell them to go screw themselves. Just because indians did it way back them, well that still doesnt mean its not a drug!!
AS for people on here smoking it , yeah thats their own business, they want to do that shit, its on them , not my problem!!

AS for cancer patients smoking it..... Well my mother ( who was against drugs) died last year of brain and lung cancer... as much pain as she was in SHE did not smoke dope!! Thats their choice to live with the pain or get dope to help with their pain!!!
If you call "DOPE" so useful you are just lying to yourself!! That shit ruins lives just like other drugs!! I have seen this first hand. Yeah you do it and it is your problem,and choice . But like i said i dont think people who do dope should let on that "IT WONT KILL YOU " etc. Thats shit is just as bad as the rest..... you wanna be droned out all day long, you wanna fry your brain cells ... sure SMOKE IT UP JOHNNY!!!! go right ahead,,,, you just be sure to have a subtitle under your words" DOPE WONT KILL YOU", that says but it will ruin your life!!!!

yes it is US vs THEM!!! i agree with you here!!!

[bassist_25]

I say bring back strength in our Families, our Friends, our Schools and our Belief in God. Choose your own spiritual word for divine entity.

I disagree. While I do believe in some higher form of power, government should remain as secular as possible. Many ancient civilizations became corrupt do to the preist caste gaining too much power and influence. Basing legislation off of theological doctrine without any deductive reasoning is asinine.

Also, some of the founding fathers were actually deists and Unitarians, not fundementalist Christians.

[bassist_25]

BTW: Just last night I lost a good friend in an alcohol-related car crash. He was ejected from the car as it smashed into a telephone pole and careened off of a hill. His sister, also a friend of mine, now lays in a coma at Altoona Hospital. The saddest part of this tragedy is that if she ever wakes up, her brother will already be buried. For the love of God, get a DD if you decide to party.

[SpellboundByMetal]

bitchen- dont call it "dope". its not "dope" its marijuana.
who the hell is "droned" out all day?????? i think you have been lied to. you cannot just make assumptions from what people tell you. im glad that you have "morals". people need them. i have them, but pot doesnt make me hitler's apprentice.
i wont speak about something i know NOTHING about. maybe you should do the same. watch GRASS and tell me you havent been lied to. i dont think a documentary will change your mind. im glad it wouldnt.
all im saying , is youre whole point is based on what others have told you.
im not playing the "Everybody does it" card, cause thats bullshit. how can weed ruin anyone's life?????? i dont think you know the effects of pot, bitchen. you speak of the kind of people that are on afterschool specials, and those people dont exist except on those shows and in your mind.
you probably watch montel williams.....he smokes!! every band you listen to probably smokes. no ones asking you to convert, bitchen. stay true to your beliefs, but one day you will have to think for yourself without guidance.

[Bit*chenWomen1029]

bitchen- dont call it "dope". its not "dope" its marijuana.
who the hell is "droned" out all day?????? i think you have been lied to. you cannot just make assumptions from what people tell you. im glad that you have "morals". people need them. i have them, but pot doesnt make me hitler's apprentice.
i wont speak about something i know NOTHING about. maybe you should do the same. watch GRASS and tell me you havent been lied to. i dont think a documentary will change your mind. im glad it wouldnt.
all im saying , is youre whole point is based on what others have told you.
im not playing the "Everybody does it" card, cause thats bullshit. how can weed ruin anyone's life?????? i dont think you know the effects of pot, bitchen. you speak of the kind of people that are on afterschool specials, and those people dont exist except on those shows and in your mind.
you probably watch montel williams.....he smokes!! every band you listen to probably smokes. no ones asking you to convert, bitchen. stay true to your beliefs, but one day you will have to think for yourself without guidance.

First of all asi said those are what i have seen FIRST HAND!!! So dont think in your mind i havent seen this in person for i'd say the past 10 years of my life,Cause i have!! I see what the dope , yes i will call it dope its the same thing, but i have seen what this has done to people who smoke it!!!!! as for tv..... who the hell watches after school specials and shit like that i have kids they watch freaking dora.

i never said condemn you for doing the shit i just feel that you make it out to be harmless>> and that is a lie!!! Shit who the hell watches montel?? like i said i have a 3 year old!!! lol she owns the tv!

As for thinking for yourself ,, what in the hell do you think im doing,,,, think im sitting here with a book copying word for word or some shit?? GET REAL!!!! EVERYONE I HAVE EVER SEEN THAT DOES DOPE ALOT HAS BASICALLY NOTHING,,,,,,, THEY HAVE NOTHING!!! No im not speaking for all people on dope but the ones i have seen have not one damn thing and they do sit all day droned out or sleep all day and they cant remember what you told them the day before!!!! This is probably long term effects , just my opinion!!!!

Like i said before this is my opinion and if you dont like it TOUGH SHIT!!!

you can do what you want but dont try to tell me what i have seen is a lie cause i have seen this shit firsthand!!!

[Plastered Bastards]

I am so glad I moved from Altoona 6 months ago it's seriously turning into a shit hole of a town.I now live in Pittsburgh,it's so much better.There is always something to do.Since I moved here I joined a band that is playing all the time,plus it's all over the city.I lived in Altoona all my life,and I just watched it go into a steep decline.Once the crack and heroin moved in that's it.Straight down.Sure there is drugs and shit here but it's spread out all over here.I don't know where this is going but I used to love Altoona,but now I could care less.
Cheers!!!!

[SpellboundByMetal]

bitchen,
i know plenty of people who have smoked for YEARS and arent like the people you so desperatly want to exist. i think the people you know arent just smoking weed. i dont mind your opinion at all! i like free speech
the people you see that you think are smoking weed need help. if they are "Droned" out, they arent smoking weed. sorry to say, but ive never been "droned" out. weed doesnt "drone" you out. well atleast not me or anyone i know who used it.

p.s. its not "dope"

[SavageHeart]

The tenants in all correctional system halfway houses, BY DEFINITION are convicted criminals. All have served prison time and still have parole time on their sentences.

To say anything else is irresponsible and simply false.

This is true. However, as I said earlier, there are many kinds of halfway houses and all halfway houses are not "community correctional system" halfway houses. To label all people in halway houses as "convicted criminals" is also simply false.

[lonewolf]

The tenants in all correctional system halfway houses, BY DEFINITION are convicted criminals. All have served prison time and still have parole time on their sentences.

To say anything else is irresponsible and simply false.

This is true. However, as I said earlier, there are many kinds of halfway houses and all halfway houses are not "community correctional system" halfway houses. To label all people in halway houses as "convicted criminals" is also simply false.

I don't know about these other halfway houses you are talking about, but we are talking about the parole/probation halfway houses in Altoona. These are all convicted criminals. They were all sentenced to the state prison system and served at least some time in a state prison.

I once owned an apartment building near Mt. Carmel in Altoona. I had very little trouble with tenants and no drug problems to speak of. Most of the tenants worked for a living, paid their rent and kept the apartments nice. Then the 1st halfway house opened up around the corner. It wasn't very long until my building had 16 year old crack ho's crashing in the basement. A year or so later, when the good tenants left, the crack scene had infiltrated my building via Section 8 and basically turned much of it into a crack hotel.

At that point, I decided to sell all my property in Altoona and let somebody else deal with the endless parade of pond scum that was being produced by these out of town criminals. In the last several months before I found a buyer, relations between me and the dealers were getting pretty hostile. I never went to my building unarmed. There was an instance where, if not for a Mexican standoff, you would have had yet another story for TV 10 Action News.

I know this story up close & personal. How they take 16 year old girls and turn them into smack/crack ho's. How they beat their section 8 meal-ticket ho and then go out to train another 16 year old. They give teenagers freebies until they're hooked, and then its all over. These people have destroyed the fabric of most of the neighborhoods in the city.

I have only one solution for them, and it has nothing to do with the correctional system.

[lonewolf]

bitchen,
i know plenty of people who have smoked for YEARS and arent like the people you so desperatly want to exist. i think the people you know arent just smoking weed. i dont mind your opinion at all! i like free speech
the people you see that you think are smoking weed need help. if they are "Droned" out, they arent smoking weed. sorry to say, but ive never been "droned" out. weed doesnt "drone" you out. well atleast not me or anyone i know who used it.

p.s. its not "dope"

I have lots of pothead friends who have been smoking for 30+ years. Yeah they function in society, but they can't remember what they did 5 minutes ago or what their supposed to do in 5 minutes--nor do they care. For some reason, I keep hiring a pothead crew on real estate projects. Every time I go to a site, they're all sitting around twisting one up...every time. I have to continuously remind them what they are doing, so they don't screw anything up. Large instruction posters can be useful.

My favorite saying from potheads is that they are somehow enhanced when they get high. Dear potheads, you are NOT enhanced from weed, you are just so fucked up that everything seems better and, by the way, that Bb you were trying to sing was supposed to be a C. It just sounded so cool sung flat that way.....

Just observations from a reformed pothead.

[SpellboundByMetal]

damn...could they remember anything before they started smoking?
if a moron smokes weed...he's just a bigger moron. i can agree with that. some people are morons...and stoned...they are COMPLETE morons. that has nothing to do with weed. i personally dont get "fucked up" from weed. if you get "fucked up" ...then youre NOT smoking weed.
i think alot of it has to do with what the person is like when not smoking. if the person has an IQ of 15, weed isnt gonna help anything...thats for damn sure. i can only speak for myself. i guess defending potheads i dont know is stupid. they may in fact be idiots that forget their name. thats too bad.
dont hire a lazy pothead crew if you want shit done...i shouldnt have to tell you that!! if you want shit done right...give me a call!

[BDR]

Lonewolf is right. The situation in Altoona is one where the bleeding hearts cannot make excuses for the scumbags of the world or expose a "silver lining" because there is none here.

The system is failing Altoona and the cancer is gradually spreading to the rural communities that surround the city. Rehabilitation? Some are beyond it. MANY are beyond it. To think otherwise is irresponsible. Those who go out in public "packing," by and large, are predisposed to whip out that firearm and discharge it — usually at someone, and too often, in the direction of an innocent bystander. “Shoot first, ask questions later?” These people know only, “shoot first, then f*ckin’ run because the cops will be here in 20 minutes or so.” The climate in Altoona right now is condusive to this activity because no one is taking a stand; no one is organizing the neighborhood watches that JP spoke of. As the system pumps more “shit” on to our streets and into our neighborhoods, decent people are looking out for number one instead of taking back their neighborhoods. And who can blame them?

Why does it seem like everytime a violent crime like this takes place anymore, it’s always, “the suspect, who recently moved here from Pittsburgh ...”? Those who turn a blind eye to what’s really going on are almost as dangerous as those who are tainting our region with crime and death.

To settle any type of disagreement with a gun in lieu of "talking things out" shows a complete disregard for human life. “I’m right, you’re wrong, you’re dead,” is the attitude. These kinds of "people" are animals and are beyond rehabilitation, outside of serving hard time and being separated from society. We've all been given the ability to think and reason, and these CRIMINALS are concerned with no one but themselves. That puts us ALL in danger. I’m not trying to be a part of the “G.W. fear machine” or anything, but no one can tell me “guests” of our half-way houses don’t come to this region, see it as “cherry territory” and move themselves and their posse here to “set up shop” and collect welfare. It’s happening and people are dying because of it. Will it take a dead child at an area elementary school for someone in “authority” to do something about it?

A few other points:
• Bitchen: We get it, you don’t smoke weed and you hate those who do.
• Spellbound: We get it, you smoke weed and think it’s OK.

You are both entitled to your viewpoints and I respect both, but I don’t think either of you are going to convince the other to have a change of heart so maybe it’s time to stop with the volley of sales pitches.

I would like to see that documentary, “Grass." Is this something you can rent?

Finally, Clark Kent’s adopted Earth father, Jonathan Kent, was a farmer in Smallville, Kansas, and he grew marijuana between his corn stalks.

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