Bose=great service

red · Post by **red** » Thursday Sep 15, 2005

If anyone is interested in the "personal amplification system" from Bose, I have great news! Last night at the Hitching Post, ours took a crap during our last song. I realised my warranty expired 3 months ago. When I called Bose this morning they said they will have a new system on my front door tomorrow morning, free of charge, so we can play the two gigs we still have this weekend. Now thats service!!

ThrashKillsYou · Post by **ThrashKillsYou** » Thursday Sep 15, 2005

Did you tell them your warranty was up and do you get to keep it?

red · Post by **red** » Thursday Sep 15, 2005

Yep, I told them my warranty ran out 3 months ago, they said no problem! I just have to send my blown up one back to them, and they pay for shipping!

ThrashKillsYou · Post by **ThrashKillsYou** » Thursday Sep 15, 2005

How much was it new?

red · Post by **red** » Thursday Sep 15, 2005

We bought the dual bass cab system..about $2300. Check out..
http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VI ... proach.jsp

JeffLeeper · Post by **JeffLeeper** » Thursday Sep 15, 2005

That's pretty impressive. I know the stuff sounds good , but I didn't realise how well they stand behind it. Thanks for the information.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Thursday Sep 15, 2005

So the amp was bad... I was hoping it was just a shorted cable causing it to thermal out. Glad they came through, though. See ya next Wednesday.-------->JMS

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Tuesday Sep 20, 2005

Did they replace the second one of the weekend?

red · Post by **red** » Tuesday Sep 20, 2005

Jones wrote:Did they replace the second one of the weekend?

Yea, the second one was a "reconditioned" one. I recieved the "new" one today. Hope this one works! Thanks to Tim Winters or we would have been screwed.

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Wednesday Sep 21, 2005

Do you run your whole band thru just one double sub PAS?

Do you ever play electric guitar thru it?

If so, does it sound natural or does it suffer from the same disappointing high-end screech that comes from playing thru P.A. horns?

{{takes picking hand fingernails and runs them down a chalkboard}}

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Wednesday Sep 21, 2005

I'd run the guitar through a Red Box or other cab simulator, or even a modeler, but yeah, electric guitars would sound okay, I think. I've heard recorded music through this PAS and it sounds good. The big draw with these rigs is the truckpack, and the 30-second setup. They do sound good on the so-called "unlpugged" stuff, to boot.------->JMS

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Wednesday Sep 21, 2005

songsmith wrote:I'd run the guitar through a Red Box or other cab simulator, or even a modeler, but yeah, electric guitars would sound okay, I think. I've heard recorded music through this PAS and it sounds good. The big draw with these rigs is the truckpack, and the 30-second setup. They do sound good on the so-called "unlpugged" stuff, to boot.------->JMS

Yep, that's what I was thinking. I'm using a GT-8 now which is like a VF1's two grandsons on steroids. On the solo side, I've got the whole solo rig down to a 4 space FX rack and an EV SXA360 powered cab (2 if necessary). The Bose actually seems cumbersome next to that for setup, but I'm using a redbox thru the mixer and suffering from hornitis. I just about puke every time I play a solo thru horns. I'm thinking the PAS would be much less harsh since there are no horns.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Wednesday Sep 21, 2005

You do have a nice rig as it stands. G-man has a GT-8... Sooooo many good sounds on that thing, even the best acoustic sim I've EVER heard (I bought one of those Boss Acoustic Simulator Pedals when they first came out... I've tried it on every conceivable guitar, and can't get a decent sound out of it), and lots of spacey synth stuff too. I wish I had the scratch to buy one. The EV powered cabs are pretty much the industry standard now as well. Do they have an FX loop? The Bose has some extra sweet presets for effects and emulation... very little tweaking involved, they just sort of "fit."
The Bose manual does kinda suck, however. It simply assumes you're an idiot, and leaves out a LOT of specs and troubleshooting data. Not a good thing on a piece that replaces so many things, and is so different. I think a better manual would cut down on returns to the company.------>JMS

red · Post by **red** » Thursday Sep 22, 2005

::UPDATE::
After 2 new power stands, we finally figured out it was a bad speakon cable! Bose is sending us 2 new ones tomorrow, let's hope for the best..

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thursday Sep 22, 2005

songsmith wrote:You do have a nice rig as it stands. G-man has a GT-8... Sooooo many good sounds on that thing, even the best acoustic sim I've EVER heard (I bought one of those Boss Acoustic Simulator Pedals when they first came out... I've tried it on every conceivable guitar, and can't get a decent sound out of it), and lots of spacey synth stuff too. I wish I had the scratch to buy one. The EV powered cabs are pretty much the industry standard now as well. Do they have an FX loop? The Bose has some extra sweet presets for effects and emulation... very little tweaking involved, they just sort of "fit."
The Bose manual does kinda suck, however. It simply assumes you're an idiot, and leaves out a LOT of specs and troubleshooting data. Not a good thing on a piece that replaces so many things, and is so different. I think a better manual would cut down on returns to the company.------>JMS

Yep, Greg and I had a web discussion about the GT-8 before he got that box...I'm glad he likes it. These EV cabs are the latest, best sounding ever and max out at 129db/1w/1m each. There is no mini-mixer like the lower-output ones, just a balanced input/thru output and a sensitivity control. These are meant for flat-out loud hi-quality sound reproduction and they do sound great right down to 60hz. I'm still waiting for the 40lb subs that will match up with them, lol.

I'm using a Shure SCM262 half-rackspace mixer in the rack, right next to the redbox.

I downloaded that POS PAS manual yesterday...it reminds me of an '80s Macintosh computer manual without the smiley faces.

On a different note:

PAS enthusiasts...please explain to me why Bose equipment does not obey the law of physics that states that there is a 6db drop in sound level every time the distance from the source doubles.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Sunday Sep 25, 2005

You know, I've pondered that myself... and it's been discussed on the prosound chats as well... I'm guessing there's some psychoacoustics involved, as heavy as the DSP engine is on the PAS. I've walked the room at a BJD show, and the PERCEIVED sound level drops maybe 6db at the back of the room compared to right next to it, but that's far less than physics would allow for in actual attenuation, it should be much quieter at the back that it seems to be. How? If I knew that, I'd sell the secret to Behringer, and they'd sell PAS-likes at $300 a pop.

---->JMS

Post by **Ron** » Monday Sep 26, 2005

lonewolf wrote: On a different note:

PAS enthusiasts...please explain to me why Bose equipment does not obey the law of physics that states that there is a 6db drop in sound level every time the distance from the source doubles.

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