Calling True Musicians

[HurricaneBob]

Know what i like abour RP. Its Musicians, plain and simple. Sharing and caring. How many of you can listen to any genre? Ive played eveything except jazz, because im a lousy jazz drummer but i love it just the same. I love hearing from everyone who can appreciate every form of what we do.

How many peeps come hear us that dont appreciate our style, it happens alot in mixed crowds, I could care less about the fans that cant count to 4 let alone 6/8 but being a musician arnt we supposed to be open minded and gather as much info as we can to make us grow?

I hate when players put down other styles on here, you make yourself look like a joke so dont bother, i played thrash for years but that wasnt half as hard as playing a simple shuffle in a loose groove in a SRV or Allmans tune.

Let us all learn from each others styles, in the end we will have more tools to use. Just from our drummer outings, ive learned alot from my drum brothers about every style played today.

Suck it up and learn from each other RP.

Thanks

[JeffLeeper]

I've been playing out for more years than some of these good folks have been alive and there's still a lot I can learn from listening to them play.

You couldn't be more correct.

[Hawk]

Bobby, you couldn't be more right.

I believe that the more you let EVERYONE influence you, the more of an individual you become.

Adopting this philosophy has helped me learn something from every drummer I see.

I learn something new every "drum night".

[red]

Bobby, you couldn't be more right.

I believe that the more you let EVERYONE influence you, the more of an individual you become.

That's true!!

[ToonaRockGuy]

I love seeing bands live, because it helps my drumming a lot. I try to lift something from every performance that I see to add to my drumming "toolbox". I've been seeing/playing with Felix for 12 years, and between Bobby and John McKnight I've learned a TON of stuff. Hell, every time I pop in on a Thursday, Bobby does something on those Mapex drums that makes me go "How the f*ck did he do that???" and then I have to go home and think about it and try it out for myself!

I've been playing since age 4 (I'm 36 now), and I still learn something every day. There are young guys out there who have more chops than I can imagine having that blow me away, but I do love to listen to them play and try to take something for my own. Everyone I see has something to offer.

The only music that I can't take is opera. Gah.

[FatVin]

Right on!, every style of music has it's merits, I said this on many occassions:

as musicans it pays to try to listen to everything you can,:

everybody out there has something to teach you if you have an open mind.

[songsmith]

Amen, and amen. I played Metallica when people around here called 'em Metal-LIKE-a, hard to play then, but nothing like trying to play a loose shuffle, and sounding coherent doing it.
Ever listen to Willie Nelson? He's all around the beat, and when I was younger, I thought he was just horribly sloppy. That ain't slop, Jackson. Count it out, and he's mathematically right on, just coming in a 64th upfront, or a 32nd behind the 2. The old blues guys could retard the timing on a pentatonic run, and just build the tension SOOO well, and I used to think they just couldn't play tight. Hell, I've heard Felix pop one note, sustain it for 12 bars, and it just builds and builds, 'til you musically NEED that resolution when he starts flamethrowing again.
I'm not putting down heavy music, that would be hypocritical, because I still listen to it, and hopefully helped play a role in it's history locally. I think as you get older, you don't need aggression as much in your entertainment, because you're less angrily aggressive. However, don't assume you have less power. Power and anger are related, but not mutually exclusive. Bluegrass is very aggressive, but not angry at all. Southern Gospel is sung aggressively and forcefully, but not angrily.

With time onstage comes experience, and my friend RonnyD put it very succinctly just last week: "The more I know about music, the more I realize how little I know."--------->JMS

[bassist_25]

Bobby, this is a thread that should be read by everyone here. I'm actually, more often than not, very disappointed by how ineclectic many of the posters are here, especially considering that most of them are musicians.

I love MUSIC, plain and simple. My CD collection has just about every major genere of music represented: Classic Rock, Blues, Heavy Metal (from Glam to Death), Country, Oldies, Pop, Progressive, New Age, Electronica, Jazz (from Bop to Fusion), Baroque, Classical, Punk, Alternative, Hip-Hop, Rockabilly, ect. I just couldn't live a fullfilling life by listening to one of two generes of music.

The old blues guys could retard the timing on a pentatonic run, and just build the tension SOOO well, and I used to think they just couldn't play tight.

It's funny that what you consider bad playing when you're younger, you then realize is brilliant playing as you get older.

I remember that a lot of stuff use to sound really dissonant to me when I was younger. The problem was that I just wasn't accustomed to hearing deeper harmonies. Let's face it - Most of the stuff on the radio is not rich in harmonic content. That's not a slam on radio-friendly music either. It's all based on tertian harmony, and much of Rock music is based on roots and 5ths. When you start listening to other styles of music, you start to get the deeper harmonies. That may sound dissonant to ears that aren't accustomed to it. Eastern music is almost always going to sound dissonant to ears that are hearing it for the first time because it's based on quarter steps and instead of half steps like Western music is. A lot of it also isn't based on tertian harmony.

Listening to music isn't a passive experience. I learned that a long time ago.

[Possessed]

I love almost every style of music. I just play metal because that's what I'm best at.
I lived in Chicago and I learned a lot from the blues and jazz players.
I even discovered Funk ala Tower of Power and the Average White Band.
I jammed out at the coolest blues jams ever. I wish we could have blues jams like they did out there. Pure improv. No covers just pick a key and play. Those were the days.

[orangekick]

I love just about all music. For years I've said that there are only two types of music, good and bad. Of course that is subjective to each listener, but I think you get my meaning.

As I play more music with more people, it expands what I am comfortable playing and makes me much more of an expressive player. Anyone that cages themselves in with one or two "genres" is just hurting themselves in the long run. I know a bunch of guys that play the heaviest metal ever and they can totally tear up a beautiful, clean jazz solo. These are the guys that will go places. I'm always looking to expand my horizons as well.

[RobTheDrummer]

Lots of cool things being said on this thread. I like to go out and check out bands a lot, and most of you have probably seen me a few times. There is always something to learn by watching your fellow man. It doesn't matter what they play. I can take something from BJD and the drummer only plays a snare. Good stuff. I usually check out the hurricanes once a week. Bobby is always kickin some ass! And their sets NEVER get old. AND...Dammit hawk! When are you gonna play out, I wanna see you tear it up!

[Banned]

this is RIGHT to the point and SO TRUE, to all that Posted on this topic it couldn't have been Better said Rock On

[getclosertothemusic]

Bobby and everyone that has replied to this forum, words are so true.

It's always better to listen and learn...

No matter how good you think you are, or how many lessons you had,
the best instructor etc...
It just don't get it...

Styles of music have their own difficultly and to watch someone just plainly rip up that special style is a schooling in its self...

I love going to school, how about you...

Thank You Bobby, Rob, Bill, and everyone that always comes to the drummers get together for sharing your style.
We need more people to have their own get together for Bass, Guitar,
Keyboards, and yes Vocals.
Also Brass, and Horns, Woodwinds, Strings, etc. Everyone that can play
anything get their own groups and just have plain fun....

Your never to old to go to school and learn new styles...
You might even find a few you might even keep...


Ed
GCTTM

[esa]

I like beans~!


no no no..i agree...it's cool that we can all have all sorts of music loves here and still be one family... and have this as a music forum but still talk about anything... that's one reason i love this place....

[HurricaneBob]

Beans have nothing to do with this thread as which were all sick of , but thanks for trying to play....
This thread is called true musicians! So if you are, please play along

[JeffLeeper]

To tell the truth , I've learned some cool little things from people I've taught to play.....
Everyone seems to have something cool floating around in their head that can't wait to get out , and I've been lucky enough to be there when it does.

[Atomic Jim]

First, let me say that I am actually older than Jeff Leeper, if you can believe that. I listen to everything, from blues to jazz, 80s, a little metal (the old stuff), and I've just discovered a few new people I really like: John Mayer, Gavin McDraw, Joss Stone. Our band plays 80's pop now, but my true love is blues and old R&B. But . . . I'm also a big Steely Dan and Eric Johnson Fan.

When I started, Rock was three or four chords, now it's evolved in all different directions. It's fun to try new styles, even if you know you're never going to play the stuff out. It still improves your playing.

[gypsy123]

Yep you're so right,I go out myself and play chicago and barrelhouse blues and have people say to me,I never liked the blues but I like you,ok cool,but I turn and listen to jazz,metal,progressive rock , blues, classic trax, country, funk, r&b ,soul ect ,if its good music I like it no matter what it is.took me many years to learn to play the way I do on piano but I love to do it,most of my life has been attached to my instrument since I learned as a kid but my main goal is to keep them dancing and keep them happy then you know you've done something right!Have a good one and play the blues for me-Gypsy

[Hannibal]

Atomic Jim is also older than I am, even if only a year or so. We played in a band together when it was just 3 and 4 chord rock and roll. Lots of fun, and great music., but OHHHHHHH the changes. There is a lot of great music out there, but I guess I'm still stuck in the past. Ah, the memories.

By the way, a little PHILosophy for you. None of us are as good as we think we are, nor are we as bad as our detractors make us out to be.