GOT GAS?

[lonewolf]

Why SHOULD I believe Dubya's money is in a Blind Trust, or that he has no access to the Bush family fortune, just because some charts, graphs or legal papers or YOU may say so? Hasn't anyone ever gotten money that nobody knows about, as a "gift"? So what if the bulk of Dubya's money is not available to him now, will we ever TRULY know how much he and they are really worth or what they have made from both Gulf Wars and what's going on now? No, we won't and if you really think we will, I just don't know what to say.



The only DEADLY Radioactive waste produced by Fusion are the materials and that's only after the plant is decomissioned, with a 1/2 life in 10s of years? I had no idea, that's different. NOT!
Sorry, but to me, DEADLY waste is DEADLY waste, but you can put it in your back yard, okay?






Peace,
YankeeRose

Belief (bee leef')

Assent to a proposition or affirmation, or the acceptance of a fact, opinion, or assertion as real or true, without immediate personal knowledge

not to be confused with:

Substantiation. (subst`anchee'eyshun)

1. the act of validating; finding or testing the truth of something
2. [n] additional proof that something that was believed (some fact or hypothesis or theory) is correct; "fossils provided further substantiation of the evolutionary theory"

or

"Income tax returns provide further substantiation that President George W. Bush does in fact have his assets in a blind trust"

Further examples of substantiation (and interesting reading):

http://www.frugalfun.com/presidential-tax-returns.html

http://www.freep.com/news/politics/civics8_20040308.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Apr20.html

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/g ... 012601.asp

http://www.answers.com/topic/dick-cheney

http://blogs.opensymphony.com/plightbo/ ... 00047.html

[bassist_25]

And I thought that I was hardcore when it came to arguing over semantics.

[lonewolf]

And I thought that I was hardcore when it came to arguing over semantics.

Well, ya know Paul, there are beliefs and then there are facts. Some things exist and some don't. For these things, there is no gray area. In case you were wondering, here is the name and address of the company that handles President Bush's blind trust, lol.

Northern Trust Co.
P.O. Box 803968
Chicago, IL 60680

[YankeeRose]

RobTheDrummer, if someone living in Altoona feels it's "lethal", I suggest they move out of that environment. If you've been "lethally" affected by Radiation, you can't just move away from that, it's with you for the rest of your life, however long that may be. You will either die from it quickly, as with the massive amounts from Chernobyl...or you slowly die from some kind of catastrophic illness, invariably painful to be sure, taking days if you're lucky, but usually months, or even years. If you find what damage the Radiation did to you in time and are able to stage a valiant battle before your life ends, some days you'll only wish you were dead.

And I thought that I was hardcore when it came to arguing over semantics.

Well, ya know Paul, there are beliefs and then there are facts. Some things exist and some don't. For these things, there is no gray area. In case you were wondering, here is the name and address of the company that handles President Bush's blind trust, lol.

Northern Trust Co.
P.O. Box 803968
Chicago, IL 60680

There are also intelligent people who would never believe that anyone, no matter the Political Party, fitting the definition of the words "FILTHY RICH" and a thing they or any Government Agency, private company, accountant or lawyer connected to them would ever say, print or post as "fact" regarding the total, complete disclosure of ALL their financial holdings...and then there are those poor, misguided fools that would!




(Due to all of their entanglements with Opec, "big oil", Haliburton, the awarding of Government Contracts in Iraq, etc., let alone the lies they told to invade that country in the first place, Bush and Cheney, to me, are disgusting and MORE than fit the definition of the words "FILTHY" RICH.)






Peace,
YankeeRose

[the herald]

$3.49!!

[DMFJ03]

I'm buying a Vespa!

[f.sciarrillo]

It's not going to come down .. It going to keep going up. It's time to buy oil commodities .. It is also time to buy a bicycle ...

[BDR]

... Goddamn Clinton ...

r:>)

[RobTheDrummer]

RobTheDrummer, if someone living in Altoona feels it's "lethal", I suggest they move out of that environment. If you've been "lethally" affected by Radiation, you can't just move away from that, it's with you for the rest of your life, however long that may be.

Well, I always wanted a third arm. I would be a kick ass drummer, think about the possibilities!

[RobTheDrummer]

... Goddamn Clinton ...

r:>)

you know, you are right. We haven't had a good president since Regan.

[bassist_25]

... Goddamn Clinton ...

r:>)

I told you that it's Nader's fault. Fucking Nader is always screwing shit up.

(For the record, many of our problems with terrorism can be traced back to Reagan's foreign policy)

[Ron]

Well... practically everyone who posts here lives well within 100 miles of an operating 2MW fusion reactor. On August 15th it celebrated it's 50 year anniversary.

The Breazeale reactor at PSU went online in 1955, and it's used to train reactor operators and to generate radioactive isotopes for research, not to generate electricity. It was the first nuclear reactor built to be used for research and training only.

[YankeeRose]

... Goddamn Clinton ...

r:>)

I told you that it's Nader's fault. Fucking Nader is always screwing shit up.

(For the record, many of our problems with terrorism can be traced back to Reagan's foreign policy)

How Clinton is to "blame", please, do tell...he enforced the "no-fly zones", even bombed them from time to time...there had been a "Blue Beret" UN contingent in Iraq, after the first Gulf War ended, overseeing that they complied with conditions placed on them. The 1st Cav Division - my now ex-husband was with them at the time - was sent there from TX...I followed that War very closely. G.H.W. Bush allowed Saddam to go free when the WORLD wondered, why?
Our forces had been too efficient in the only real Gulf War. (Invading them this time, without cause and bombing the hell out of that ancient country, guaranteed to piss the zealots off and supplied the supposed "need" to be there a long time.) Many may not realize that Daddy G.H.W. Bush was the former Head of none other than the Central Intelligence Agency. Yes, the CIA. He looks SO innocent and seems harmless, doesn't he?
"1,000 points of light", remember that one? Yeah, riiight, like he gave a crap about anyone. That never DID sound "natural", it sounded more like he had to force himself to say it, come to think of it. 1/2 the time Reagan appeared to not have a clue, or he was nodding off. Back then, I always said Reagan had seemed to try his damnedest to get us into a war (Historically, during wartime the economy is a booming economy.) and Bush1 succeeded, but it was over too quickly. With it not making any sense, at the time I also said it seemed to me Bush1 allowed Saddam to go free for possible future war use...little did I realize how true that would eventually be. Mr. "I don't recall" Reagan was guilty of far more serious and Impeachable lies, yet there are those who think Ronnie's image should be placed on Mt. Rushmore.







Peace,
YankeeRose

[bassist_25]

My bandmate Rob was being sarcastic. He was just pointing out the idiocy of the blind Clinton haters.

While I don't think that Clinton deserves the God status that many liberals would like to give him, I also don't think he's the villian that many conservatives would like to paint him as. Republicans have been pissed off for the past five years because Clinton was such a popular President.

Either way, it's been in my experience that politics are largely contingent on the usefuls idiots voting. But hey, that's what pundits are for. That we we don't have to think. Mr. Limbaugh and Mr. Moore always give us objective and unbiased political information.

[f.sciarrillo]

My bandmate Rob was being sarcastic. He was just pointing out the idiocy of the blind Clinton haters.

While I don't think that Clinton deserves the God status that many liberals would like to give him, I also don't think he's the villian that many conservatives would like to paint him as. Republicans have been pissed off for the past five years because Clinton was such a popular President.

Either way, it's been in my experience that politics are largely contingent on the usefuls idiots voting. But hey, that's what pundits are for. That we we don't have to think. Mr. Limbaugh and Mr. Moore always give us objective and unbiased political information.

Conservatives think the same thing about Clinton as the Liberals think about Bush. There is no comparison between Moore and Limbaugh. Limbaugh always has one thing the Moore can't furnish. That is proof, limbaugh backs his statements up. Moore just shoots off his mouth ..

[YankeeRose]

My bandmate Rob was being sarcastic. He was just pointing out the idiocy of the blind Clinton haters.

While I don't think that Clinton deserves the God status that many liberals would like to give him, I also don't think he's the villian that many conservatives would like to paint him as. Republicans have been pissed off for the past five years because Clinton was such a popular President.

Either way, it's been in my experience that politics are largely contingent on the usefuls idiots voting. But hey, that's what pundits are for. That we we don't have to think. Mr. Limbaugh and Mr. Moore always give us objective and unbiased political information.

Clinton's just a man, but when he said, "I feel your pain"...I believe he meant it, he cares about people, especially American people. He didn't grow up rich and never forgot that. I do believe BadDaze Rob said it once, sort of, his personal life was none of our business. The other end of the spectrum of "blind Clinton haters" are "Reagan worshippers"...and when I consider that the Budgets from his first 4 years alone spent more than all Presidents back to George Washington, combined, it still can just about turn my stomach and it's 2 decades later! He got them passed by going on tv and "acting": "Call your Congressmen and Senators, tell them to pass the Budget, it's for the good of the country". HURL! About the only thing he didn't do is wave a tiny flag and say "you're a traitor if you don't support my budget".



I don't listen to Moore or Limbaugh. I like to hear music when I turn on a radio. Besides, I have no problem forming my own opinions.

[bassist_25]

Limbaugh's also a hypocrite. He spent years whinning about drug addicts, but when he became one himself, he (and his apologists) tried to say that it was different because it was to perscription drugs (not to mention it was to one of the most dangerous perscription drugs on the market. Oxycontin has ruined more lives than marijuana). Drug dependency is not determined by the schedule of substance that one is doing. Rush was an addict, plain and simple, and no argument over semantics can change that.

As far as his proof - It's all just deductive reasoning aimed at people with a right-slanted confirmation bias. That's how all pudits work, regardless of which side of the fence they are on. They're just loud mouths with opinions. That's why they aren't sociologists, cops, judges, teachers, civil engineers, or in any other profession that actually ATTEMPTS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS RATHER THAN BITCH ABOUT THEM TO PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH THEM ANYWAYS. People like Limbaugh often complain about "academics" because they don't do anything useful. What has Rush done that is so great? I wish I got paid to shoot off at the mouth. I guess that won't happen with the supply/demand anymore. With web blogs, any Joe Smoe can rattle off about the state of the world. I wonder why Limbaugh's, Moore's, Coulter's, Carville's, or Savage's opinions are worth more.

BTW: When I listen to talk radio, it's usually Coast to Coast with either Art Bell or Ian Punit.

[RobTheDrummer]

My favorite is Savage!

[ThrashKillsYou]

$2.99, the calming before the storm...

[f.sciarrillo]

$2.99, the calming before the storm...

Don't get over excited ..

[Punkinhead]

I have an update on this whole situation that you might like to know about:

Gas is going to go up to $5 a gallon, eventually get rationed, and the settle around $3.50. Once it's at $3.50 after people having either not had any or paying $5 a gallon, they assume that most people will moronically run to the pumps and accept that price after seeing how bad it can really get.

That's the plan from the oil companies.

I got these details from a squeaking little birdy employeed by one such company who shot his mouth off to the wrong person.

I have no verification of this (like a website or something) other than a good inside source.


Oh, and on the side note:

I agreee with Ron about solar energy. When my home is built, it will it to it's fullest potential...that I can afford anyways.

[f.sciarrillo]

I have an update on this whole situation that you might like to know about:

Gas is going to go up to $5 a gallon, eventually get rationed, and the settle around $3.50. Once it's at $3.50 after people having either not had any or paying $5 a gallon, they assume that most people will moronically run to the pumps and accept that price after seeing how bad it can really get.

That's the plan from the oil companies.

I got these details from a squeaking little birdy employeed by one such company who shot his mouth off to the wrong person.

I have no verification of this (like a website or something) other than a good inside source.


Oh, and on the side note:

I agreee with Ron about solar energy. When my home is built, it will it to it's fullest potential...that I can afford anyways.

If this is true I would say buy oil futures now !! I also agree with solar energy. I was watching a thing on the science channel the other day about how a lot of homes are getting that now, some are getting wind energy as well. There are a lot that still have the water wheel in there yards also. I been looking at it for a long time ..

[DMFJ03]

I like swords.

[ThrashKillsYou]

$2.99, the calming before the storm...

Don't get over excited ..

I meant it got better before it's about to get worse.

[lonewolf]

Well... practically everyone who posts here lives well within 100 miles of an operating 2MW fusion reactor. On August 15th it celebrated it's 50 year anniversary.

The Breazeale reactor at PSU went online in 1955, and it's used to train reactor operators and to generate radioactive isotopes for research, not to generate electricity. It was the first nuclear reactor built to be used for research and training only.

Ron, the Breazeale is a small fission reactor similar to the ones used commercially today. I'm not sure if there are any 2MW fusion reactors yet, but there's talk about soon building a 5MW research reactor in southern France--that would be the largest one to date. There are no commercial fusion reactors at this time and probably won't be for many years. Superconductor technology isn't quite where it needs to be yet, but its leaping faster than chip technology. Once we see superconductors running at room temperature, it will open a lot of other doors.