Die for your Country Metal frEEk !

[Bert|Evil]

I'm not knockin the military, I respect what they do ( follow orders) and I think it's a shame we spread them so thin and send them to die POINTLESSLY, my issue is the military is made up of primarily low income young people who see it as a way to pay for school so that they can get out of the shitty situation that they are in, recruiters target these areas more than others ( projects areas with high unemployment etc...) you don't see alot of recruiters walking around high end housing in say sylvan hills BUT you certainly used to see them at the station mall alot ! But hey I will stop picking on the young republicans they have done their part as well ( They all bought a Toby Keith CD and played LOUDLY the part about puttin a boot in Osama's ass ) so I suppose all is even. sorry I was misled !

… but, have you noticed that they all (at least most) come back with positive attitudes about their missions? If you haven’t noticed, we’re fighting people that have not evolved since the 1st crusade. Perhaps they have evolved technologically, but that’s only because of the USSR bargain basement sale that the UN failed to show up for. You can use all of the Bush bashing rhetoric that you want, but we’re simply upon the begging cusp of fighting an otherwise under developed foe that is protected by civil liberties and freedoms of religion.

[Bert|Evil]

... BTW, anyone catch Sen. Rick Santorum on Jon Stewart's show recently? What a smug asshole.

Santorum, AKA "frothy mixture", wants to make sex outside of marriage illegal everywhere in the United States, and ensure that the crime is punished to the full extent of the law. He has made several speeches where he equates adultery and homosexuality with incest.

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That’s not a bad idea, really!! Think of all the stupid and lazy people that will never be born from this point forward!!

Besides, at this rate, most things will be illegal.

[lonewolf]

... BTW, anyone catch Sen. Rick Santorum on Jon Stewart's show recently? What a smug asshole.

Santorum, AKA "frothy mixture", wants to make sex outside of marriage illegal everywhere in the United States, and ensure that the crime is punished to the full extent of the law. He has made several speeches where he equates adultery and homosexuality with incest.

I'd bet a million dollars that Santorum turns out all of the lights at night so his wife won't see him naked.

You forgot polygamy and bigamy. Yeah he's made some pretty stupid legal analogies, but I haven't seen any idiotic statements about criminalizing sex outside of marriage. Do you have any links to quotes?

[bassist_25]

If you don’t believe me, jump into the Way Back Machine and ask Erik Erickson minutes before he committed such an unprecedented and unusual suicide.

A degree in psychology doesn't equate with being mentally healthy. Both Freud and William James were known to suffer from severe depression (though to be fair, Freud was a psychiatrist, not a pyschologist). Not all mental problems arise from cognitive processes but may have neurological or other biological causes. Just because one's a lawyer doesn't mean that he or she should represent himself or herself in a court case; a hair stylist doesn't cut his own hair; a medical doctor can still get sick; etc.

Give the drill sergeants classes in Metaphysics, Quality Management, and Symbolic Logic, and that should supplement the “leaner, meaner military” vision.

I'm ignorant on the training of a drill instructor, but my point was that since a major part of their job entails resocialization, it should stand to reason that they should be very learned on the subject.

… but, have you noticed that they all (at least most) come back with positive attitudes about their missions? If you haven’t noticed, we’re fighting people that have not evolved since the 1st crusade. Perhaps they have evolved technologically, but that’s only because of the USSR bargain basement sale that the UN failed to show up for. You can use all of the Bush bashing rhetoric that you want, but we’re simply upon the begging cusp of fighting an otherwise under developed foe that is protected by civil liberties and freedoms of religion.

It's just that backwards fundamentalist mentality that makes me cynical about the whole campaign. These people have been fighting a "Holy War" for thousands of years. What makes people think that a few Westerners coming in with talks about peace and democracy are going to change anything? I'm for preventing terrorism - don't get me wrong there. But it seems like a lot of people in charge don't fully understand the magnitude of the Jewish/Arab conflict. We're still trying to get different races in our own country to get along; how are we going to get people that have been killing each other for thousands of years to get along?

That’s not a bad idea, really!! Think of all the stupid and lazy people that will never be born from this point forward!!

Besides, at this rate, most things will be illegal

Santorum's proposal is so asinine that it would probaly get laughed out of Congress. But as I said in a previous thread, religion cannot be emprically reasoned, so it therefore shouldn't be used as the basis of legislation.

As far as the "rational" argument for crimilizing sex outside of wedlock - Then what do we do if a child is born? Obviously it would have to be relocated to a foster home, which of course means that there would have to be "big government interference" and we all know how much Republicians hate "big government interference". Even if abortion were mandatory, the money is going to have to come from somewhere.

And we wouldn't have to worry about things becoming illegal if people were TRUE CONSERVATIVES and voted more libertarian on issues instead of voting small government on economic issues and facist for social ones.

[Ron]

You forgot polygamy and bigamy. Yeah he's made some pretty stupid legal analogies, but I haven't seen any idiotic statements about criminalizing sex outside of marriage. Do you have any links to quotes?

From CNN.com / API interview

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery," Santorum said in the interview. "You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does."

[lonewolf]

You forgot polygamy and bigamy. Yeah he's made some pretty stupid legal analogies, but I haven't seen any idiotic statements about criminalizing sex outside of marriage. Do you have any links to quotes?

From CNN.com / API interview

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery," Santorum said in the interview. "You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does."

Yes, I am familiar with that gaff. That's why I added "bigamy and polygamy" in my post, as a direct reference to that quote. As legally illogical as it is, it doesn't advocate criminalizing sex outside of marriage. The subject of marriage is not even mentioned or implied anywhere (except, of course, polygamy and bigamy). The only sense I can squeeze out of it is that it is his view of the supreme court "opening up the floodgates" for more permissive legal precedent in the future.

[Imgrimm01]

I'm not knockin the military, I respect what they do ( follow orders) and I think it's a shame we spread them so thin and send them to die POINTLESSLY, my issue is the military is made up of primarily low income young people who see it as a way to pay for school so that they can get out of the shitty situation that they are in, recruiters target these areas more than others ( projects areas with high unemployment etc...) you don't see alot of recruiters walking around high end housing in say sylvan hills BUT you certainly used to see them at the station mall alot ! But hey I will stop picking on the young republicans they have done their part as well ( They all bought a Toby Keith CD and played LOUDLY the part about puttin a boot in Osama's ass ) so I suppose all is even. sorry I was misled !

… but, have you noticed that they all (at least most) come back with positive attitudes about their missions? If you haven’t noticed, we’re fighting people that have not evolved since the 1st crusade. Perhaps they have evolved technologically, but that’s only because of the USSR bargain basement sale that the UN failed to show up for. You can use all of the Bush bashing rhetoric that you want, but we’re simply upon the begging cusp of fighting an otherwise under developed foe that is protected by civil liberties and freedoms of religion.

Yeah all but the ones that come back DEAD !! or maybe the ones without legs , or arms or perhaps 10 years from now they have a child with a birth defect yeah it is truly a great experience, so great I'm surprised Bush's daughters aren't there defending our country I mean they all believe it's such a GREAT idea, How many senators have sons or daughters there ? Why ?? coincidence? No ! Come On Man !!

[Bert|Evil]

A degree in psychology doesn't equate with being mentally healthy. Both Freud and William James were known to suffer from severe depression (though to be fair, Freud was a psychiatrist, not a pyschologist). Not all mental problems arise from cognitive processes but may have neurological or other biological causes. Just because one's a lawyer doesn't mean that he or she should represent himself or herself in a court case; a hair stylist doesn't cut his own hair; a medical doctor can still get sick; etc.

You’re dancing around the point. Psychology will never the science that its students would like it to be. Have you heard the expression, “you can lead your horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”? Give me one historical example of when the horse (i.e. the study of Psychology) drank. I used the example of Erikson earlier because he led his horse to water, and we know what he did in the water. Was it because the horse said “no way, man”?

I'm ignorant on the training of a drill instructor, but my point was that since a major part of their job entails resocialization, it should stand to reason that they should be very learned on the subject.

How learned is your boss on the subject? The alpha dog in your band (snicker if you must)?
These drill sergeants are more credible than you think. Have you noticed that a successful 4-year term with any military branch is great resume material? Why do you think that is?

It's just that backwards fundamentalist mentality that makes me cynical about the whole campaign. These people have been fighting a "Holy War" for thousands of years. What makes people think that a few Westerners coming in with talks about peace and democracy are going to change anything? I'm for preventing terrorism - don't get me wrong there. But it seems like a lot of people in charge don't fully understand the magnitude of the Jewish/Arab conflict. We're still trying to get different races in our own country to get along; how are we going to get people that have been killing each other for thousands of years to get along?

Would you rather that we bend over and take it? The militant Arabs these days use Allah in an even more extreme context than the Holy Roman Empire used God. You may recall that all of the Crusades were deemed “God willing” by whichever Pope was in power.

"backwards fundamentalist"? You see, this is only the start of things. Perhaps hindsight will be 20/20 for you?! Then again, maybe you’ll complain about Bush as I complain about LBJ and his "Great Society" (even though it was before my time).

And we wouldn't have to worry about things becoming illegal if people were TRUE CONSERVATIVES and voted more libertarian on issues instead of voting small government on economic issues and facist for social ones.

I suppose that makes me a TRUE CONSERVATIVE! You may be opening up a can of worms with this one, though. For example, I have no idea why liberals try so hard to debunk the Patriot Act and support Sarbanes Oxley so much?

[bassist_25]

You’re dancing around the point. Psychology will never the science that its students would like it to be. Have you heard the expression, “you can lead your horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”? Give me one historical example of when the horse (i.e. the study of Psychology) drank. I used the example of Erikson earlier because he led his horse to water, and we know what he did in the water. Was it because the horse said “no way, man”?

I'm still failing to see your point. Psychology, like any other science (and a very abstract one at that), is just a set of theories that are there to help explain phenomenon. It's not the be-all-end-all of the workings of the brain. Suicide, for example, has as much to do with philosophy as it does psychology. Remember, it's a very young science. Anyone who completely trust a science is setting himself up for failure.

How learned is your boss on the subject? The alpha dog in your band (snicker if you must)?
These drill sergeants are more credible than you think. Have you noticed that a successful 4-year term with any military branch is great resume material? Why do you think that is?

I definatley don't deny the credibility of drill sergeants. As I stated in another thread, despite how much I like to rattle off about theory, I'm actually an empiricist, not a rational.

Give me two guitar players: One with a degree from Berkely who's played in his bedroom all his life and one who hasn't formally studied music but has played thousands of gigs and hundreds of recording sessions. Which player am I going to choose? Now, what if there were a third guitarists in the mix? This one has a degree from Berkely and has played thousands of gigs.

Would you rather that we bend over and take it? The militant Arabs these days use Allah in an even more extreme context than the Holy Roman Empire used God. You may recall that all of the Crusades were deemed “God willing” by whichever Pope was in power.

"backwards fundamentalist"? You see, this is only the start of things. Perhaps hindsight will be 20/20 for you?! Then again, maybe you’ll complain about Bush as I complain about LBJ and his "Great Society" (even though it was before my time).

As I stated earlier, I'm all for ending terrorism, but I think the Bush administration is setting itself up for failure by believing that they can change the entire social, ideological, and political climate of people who have been following the same ways for thousands of years. I've been proven wrong about things before, so maybe I'll be proven wrong about this. Actually, I'd like to proven wrong, as it would give me a lot more hope for the human race. But I guess I'll be an optimist for once - Rome wasn't built in a day, and while maybe I won't see peace in the Middle East anytime during my life, maybe this will be the first couple of stones.

It just seems to me that the people in charge don't fully comprehend the conflict. There's plenty of blood on the hands of both sides. The terrorists hate us for many reasons. While only a fool would believe it to be the placea of all of our problems in the Middle East, it wouldn't be a bad start: The US needs to quit kissing Isreal's ass.

A little off-topic - I watched Rambo III the other night (still a bad ass movie BTW. I'm glad they gave Richard Crenna a bigger role in this flick). I found it ironic that the Soviets were portrayed as savage amoral barbarians, while the Afghans were shown to be the struggling freedome fighter underdogs. How times do change.

I suppose that makes me a TRUE CONSERVATIVE! You may be opening up a can of worms with this one, though. For example, I have no idea why liberals try so hard to debunk the Patriot Act and support Sarbanes Oxley so much?

And that we definatley agree on. I love debating politics because I don't fall into any generalized political label. Conservative, liberal, progressive, left-wing, right-wing: It's all a bunch of labels that pundits and politicians use to divide the people. I like to say I'm a free-thinker. I'm guilty of using the labels, but sometimes you have to generalize I guess.

As Lonewolf has stated before, the Patriot Act is a piece of legislation that started off with good intentions but was poorly written. The good part about it is it's there to stop terrorist. The good part of the Sarbanes Oxley is it's there to prevent another Enron. The problem with both pieces of legislation is that they grant power, power that can be abused. Even though the federal government is very prone to abuse power, it's the local authorities that I'm most worried about.

But give me the choice between secruity and freedom, and I'll take freedom everytime. I guess a lot of people see things differently. But then we could get into a twenty page discussion of what the role of the government should be, and that would definatley be a can of worms.

[BDR]

I like beans ...

r:>)

[lonewolf]

Give me two guitar players: One with a degree from Berkely who's played in his bedroom all his life and one who hasn't formally studied music but has played thousands of gigs and hundreds of recording sessions. Which player am I going to choose? Now, what if there were a third guitarists in the mix? This one has a degree from Berkely and has played thousands of gigs.

I think you'd better listen to all 3 of them first.

[BDR]

Hey, I have nothing against those who serve... but don't bullsh*t me to get me in. That's not patriotic. It's wrong.----->JMS

I agree with that statement, but I don't think that is the case with most military recruitment personnel.

Recruiters are professionally trained mind fuckers, pure and simple, and their favorite targets are the poor and the not-so-smart. They dance in with a quick wit, those ridiculous TV commercials (the "climb-up-the-side-of-a-sheer-cliff-and-stab-a-dragon-in-the-ass-with-your-Marine-sword" bullshit TV spots are even worse and more "rock-n-roll" in more urban areas) and handfuls of cash (signing bonuses) and wisk the unsuspecting away to foreign lands to die a bloody death, all in the name of W's warmongering.

I'm with Johnny. 1,000,000 thanks to our men and women who are serving. If that's what you choose to do with your life, great, if you want to sign up, fine, but recruiters: Don't blow smoke up my ass or my children's asses to screw them in to doing something that’s wrong for them. The military is supposed to be voluntary, right? Tricking the young and naive into a situation that could (and these days, probably will) kill them is very wrong.

This summer, in my extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins), there were three “farewell” parties that I know of. Straight out of high school, straight into the desert. How sad.

My oldest daughter starts her second year in college next month and these recruiters call my house at least one a month for her and have for the past two years. She graduated valedictorian from high school and has no intention of signing up for the military — I tell them this every time they call, but they keep calling, explaining to me how much a stint in the military will help her when I know odds are all it would do is make her dead. Every time, I tell them, "she plans to do 'this' or 'that' with her life," they twist it around and then explain how the military can help her achieve that goal better than going to college. It's bullshit.

Who do you complain to? Can you file harassment by communications charges against the U.S. Government? Nope. So they keep calling.

Bottom line: Recruiters are the best-of-the-best used car salesmen — all of them. That's their job. To think otherwise is to turn your back on reality.

r:>)

[Imgrimm01]

That is EXACTLY CORRECT !!! I AGREEE !!! About time some sense is made on this thread !

[lonewolf]

They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore.

[BDR]

You know, “the bomb” worked wonders with Japan, it made a statement and no one fucked with us afterwards. Now, the Japanese are allies.
The way I see it, there are three options: 1) Do nothing, 2) Fight an endless war like we’re doing now, sentencing countless more U.S. soldiers to death, or 3) Exterminate.
These “people” in the Middle East have proven for 1,000s of years that they’re animals and all they know is killing and death. This war we wage now will do nothing to change that, it will only continue to piss them off and, with any other predatory beast, they will counter with more violence every chance they get. Why do we fuck around with them, sending ground troops in to be killed on a daily basis?
I say break out the Enola Gay. But I suppose that’s not the PC thing to do.

r:>)

[Jim Price]

A man goes into an adult entertainment store and asks the salesperson for an inflatable doll.
"Would you like a male or female?" the salesperson asks.
"Female, please," says the customer.
"Would you like black or white?"
"White, please," answers the customer.
"Would you like Christian or Muslim?"
This question confuses the customer. He replies, "What has religion got to do with it? It's an inflatable doll."
"Well," explains the salesperson, "The Muslim doll blows itself up."

[Bert|Evil]

I'm still failing to see your point. Psychology, like any other science (and a very abstract one at that), is just a set of theories that are there to help explain phenomenon. It's not the be-all-end-all of the workings of the brain. Suicide, for example, has as much to do with philosophy as it does psychology. Remember, it's a very young science. Anyone who completely trust a science is setting himself up for failure.

Psychology has never and will never be a science. Even in the most successful result, there is no scientific ending or completely understood beginning. It’s a lot of guessing and theorizing, really.

I definatley don't deny the credibility of drill sergeants. As I stated in another thread, despite how much I like to rattle off about theory, I'm actually an empiricist, not a rational.
Give me two guitar players: One with a degree from Berkely who's played in his bedroom all his life and one who hasn't formally studied music but has played thousands of gigs and hundreds of recording sessions. Which player am I going to choose? Now, what if there were a third guitarists in the mix? This one has a degree from Berkely and has played thousands of gigs.

Face it, credibility must have some palpable result, whether it’s a certificate of completion/ achievement or what your senses can process as “better than average”. Think about all of those people that you’ve crossed paths with that “play up” their experiences as something that should be highly noteworthy, yet it is something that its barely relevant. Life is a meritocracy… get used to it!

As I stated earlier, I'm all for ending terrorism, but I think the Bush administration is setting itself up for failure by believing that they can change the entire social, ideological, and political climate of people who have been following the same ways for thousands of years. I've been proven wrong about things before, so maybe I'll be proven wrong about this. Actually, I'd like to proven wrong, as it would give me a lot more hope for the human race. But I guess I'll be an optimist for once - Rome wasn't built in a day, and while maybe I won't see peace in the Middle East anytime during my life, maybe this will be the first couple of stones.

It just seems to me that the people in charge don't fully comprehend the conflict. There's plenty of blood on the hands of both sides. The terrorists hate us for many reasons. While only a fool would believe it to be the placea of all of our problems in the Middle East, it wouldn't be a bad start: The US needs to quit kissing Isreal's ass.

A little off-topic - I watched Rambo III the other night (still a bad ass movie BTW. I'm glad they gave Richard Crenna a bigger role in this flick). I found it ironic that the Soviets were portrayed as savage amoral barbarians, while the Afghans were shown to be the struggling freedome fighter underdogs. How times do change.

The terrorists are looking for reasons to hate us. The fact that we actually aided them in defeating the USSR is irrelevant at their convenience. Osama took an interest in stalking Ollie North’s family soon after that, so I doubt that they ever planned on showing us gratitude.

We’ll need to devalue the veil that protects religions on a global basis if we ever want to get rid of these idiots. Factor Allah out of all these terrorist events, and you simply have premeditative murders with nothing to hide behind. If we can connect SO MANY terrorist activities to Islamophiles around the world, we simply need to start stripping them of their liberties. It may sound extreme, but that’s exactly how their taking advantage of us. I’ve noticed that the people who fail to se what’s going on in the world would like to see Iraq as “the new Vietnam”. In reality, this is the beginning of a larger conflict and has very little in common with Vietnam.

When was Rambo III released?

As Lonewolf has stated before, the Patriot Act is a piece of legislation that started off with good intentions but was poorly written. The good part about it is it's there to stop terrorist. The good part of the Sarbanes Oxley is it's there to prevent another Enron. The problem with both pieces of legislation is that they grant power, power that can be abused. Even though the federal government is very prone to abuse power, it's the local authorities that I'm most worried about.

But give me the choice between secruity and freedom, and I'll take freedom everytime. I guess a lot of people see things differently. But then we could get into a twenty page discussion of what the role of the government should be, and that would definatley be a can of worms.

In my past life, I was an I.T. Auditor for a technical corporation that serves a lot of the Fortune 100. Unluckily, I was there to see the inceptions and implementations of the Patriot Act and SarbOx.

The Patriot Act really is a vague act that instructed financial to monitor their daily operations from November 2003 forward, and not retroactively. There were no technical specifications, either. While one institution may have went balls to the wall on developing a software application, a smaller chain of banks would most likely settle for a Unix script that searched for “key names” (S. Hussain, for example). A lot of funny stories to tell, nonetheless. All of this hub bub about civil liberties being violated is just a bunch of poppycock, really. This act is needed, and it helps us to nicely eliminate one area to which terrorists can hurt us bad.

SarbOx, on the other hand, is just a silly piece of legislation about financial reporting and data recovery that was written by people who don’t know anything about it. It actually has helped Arthur Anderson and Enron in their most recent of trials. If you sift through the wording of SarbOx, you’ll find that this legislation has strong potential to make us all criminals, as well as your deceased friends and family. So, when I said in an earlier post that “we’re all criminals in training or defacto”, maybe you can see what I am alluding to. SarbOx is CLEARLY the worst written of the two.

[Bert|Evil]

You know, “the bomb” worked wonders with Japan, it made a statement and no one fucked with us afterwards. Now, the Japanese are allies.
The way I see it, there are three options: 1) Do nothing, 2) Fight an endless war like we’re doing now, sentencing countless more U.S. soldiers to death, or 3) Exterminate.
These “people” in the Middle East have proven for 1,000s of years that they’re animals and all they know is killing and death. This war we wage now will do nothing to change that, it will only continue to piss them off and, with any other predatory beast, they will counter with more violence every chance they get. Why do we fuck around with them, sending ground troops in to be killed on a daily basis?
I say break out the Enola Gay. But I suppose that’s not the PC thing to do.

r:>)

You’re never minding the contributions of MacArthur and Deming, but I like the way that you think! Allah Sucks!!!! If I have to shoot another suicide bomber on Sesame Street, it won’t too soon!

[Ron]

... give me the choice between secruity and freedom, and I'll take freedom everytime.

WORD.

[Ron]

Psychology has never and will never be a science. Even in the most successful result, there is no scientific ending or completely understood beginning. It’s a lot of guessing and theorizing, really.

Hey Bert... what do you think a science is? I would like to see a couple examples of what you call a "scientific ending or completely understood beginning". A true scientist knows that we will never completely understand anything. We don't even know what the exact area of a circle is.

[HurricaneBob]

Psychology has never and will never be a science. Even in the most successful result, there is no scientific ending or completely understood beginning. It’s a lot of guessing and theorizing, really.

Hey Bert... what do you think a science is? I would like to see a couple examples of what you call a "scientific ending or completely understood beginning". A true scientist knows that we will never completely understand anything. We don't even know what the exact area of a circle is.

Yaeh, and Robthedrummer is still trying to find the elusive G-spot!

[f.sciarrillo]

I think Iraq would make a nice looking parking lot. One bomb would work, right in the middle of Bagdad. It will never happen. Times have changed since wwII. People in Japan are still feeling the affects of the first bomb we dropped ..

[Ron]

Yes, I am familiar with that gaff. That's why I added "bigamy and polygamy" in my post, as a direct reference to that quote. As legally illogical as it is, it doesn't advocate criminalizing sex outside of marriage. The subject of marriage is not even mentioned or implied anywhere (except, of course, polygamy and bigamy).

I have to admit that that was taken out of context. A lot of moralists like Santorum consider sex out of wedlock to be adultery.

Man, I had my chance on Sunday. I was standing in a crowd not more than 20 feet from Santorum at the Pocono race. Right before he did the "start your engines" announcement, it got really quiet. I wanted to yell "Santorum, you SUCK", but I didn't have the nerve. It would have been nationally broadcast too.

[bassist_25]

Psychology has never and will never be a science. Even in the most successful result, there is no scientific ending or completely understood beginning. It’s a lot of guessing and theorizing, really.

I don't see how it's guessing. It follows the scientific method with the intent of producing results that can be empirically verified. Obviously some branches are psuedo-science (anything that comes out of Anthony Robbin's mouth) or proto-science (psycho-analysis). Neurology and behaviorism are definatley true sciences.

Life is a meritocracy… get used to it!

I disagree with the claim that life is a meritocracy due to the reasons I already stated in my nepotism rant from last week. I think that America should be more of a meritocracy than what it is. I still think that the cream will eventually rise to the top, but I wish we could hasten the process.

When was Rambo III released?

1988 according to the IMDB. First Blood II is still my favorite from the trilogy.

[RobTheDrummer]

Yaeh, and Robthedrummer is still trying to find the elusive G-spot!

Bobby, you are livin in the past my friend...