Uncut Pink Floyd set from Live 8...

Bag · Post by **Bag** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

http://yee.is-useless.org/Live%208%20-% ... bcast).wmv

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

Cool, there is talk about the releasing of a dvd for this .. That should be interesting ..

DMFJ03 · Post by **DMFJ03** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

It won't let me view it, it says the file is corrupted.

esa · Post by **esa** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

No no no...read it closer. It says "cannot be viewed due to you being corrupted" a small miner linquistic error... ::grins::

Craven Sound · Post by **Craven Sound** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

The video was awesome. I was at a wedding that day and was bummed when I missed Pink Floyd. Was it me, or did the mix seem "off" on some of the songs?

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

There is an official DVD set of Live 8 coming up in September for sale. Anything before that is bootleg, and most likely should be avoided.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

[quote="bootleg...most likely should be avoided".[/quote]

First, long live Pink Floyd! I caught only one of their Live8 songs and it was pre-recorded, but Bless their Souls, they're still kickin' and rockin'!!! It was funny, I said something to my daughter about their appearance and she said, "yeah, but they can still PLAY"!!!

Now, on to "bootleg"...
puh-FREAKIN-leeze! I guess that's okay if you're of the Lars Ulrich "bootleg" school. I don't know if anyone else has ever heard Dave Grohl's thoughts on things such as that - kudos to Dave and I'm with him...he was a riot on "Real Time" a few years back! Other than the fact a Charity would be losing out with this one...although if a DVD is being made and mass-marketed, the liklihood of much money "trickling down" to the people who REALLY need it diminishes greatly. Also keep in mind, not every fan is made of $.

I don't get a message saying anything is "corrupted", hahaha, I get a message saying the file contains information this dang thing can't use, as is usually the case!

Esa, the Ken Brasher (sp?) "Virtual Drums" worked though, go figure!

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

YankeeRose wrote:[quote="bootleg...most likely should be avoided".

Now, on to "bootleg"...
puh-FREAKIN-leeze! I guess that's okay if you're of the Lars Ulrich "bootleg" school. I don't know if anyone else has ever heard Dave Grohl's thoughts on things such as that - kudos to Dave and I'm with him...he was a riot on "Real Time" a few years back! Other than the fact a Charity would be losing out with this one...although if a DVD is being made and mass-marketed, the liklihood of much money "trickling down" to the people who REALLY need it diminishes greatly. Also keep in mind, not every fan is made of $.

Hmph. Well pardon the fuck out of me. I thought the charity was a good thing.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Wednesday Jul 06, 2005

No, no, pardon the fuck out of me!
Charity is a wonderful thing, if it's real. It's just that I read "Official DVD Set of Live8"...and when I saw the word "OFFICIAL", somehow that word and the word "Charity" just don't go together, to me. An old saying comes to mind, "never the twain shall meet". Honestly, I hope I'm proven wrong.

Peace,
YankeeRose

Post by **Ron** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

Is it really charity when you and I are forced to pay it?

The aid money for Live8 won't come from DVD sales, it's coming from the G8. Actually the interview with Dave Matthews about the debt relief just pissed me off. He basically said that it wasn't 'real' money, that it was just the G8 leaders' signatures on a piece of paper. He may as well have concluded with "just fire up the presses and print more!"

The DVD's should come free with our 2005 tax forms. We are talking billions here, folks. Each taxpayer in the US is giving up about $150 in money that Africa owes us (debt relief), and are signing up to give about $20 in new money, increasing each year to about $40 in 2010. It is real money.

The Washington Post wrote:... on Thursday, Bush gave a speech announcing a new $1.7 billion package of aid for Africa and proposing to double, by 2010, the $3.2 billion the United States currently gives to the continent's countries. True, that included substantial amounts Bush had already pledged to spend (including Millennium Challenge funds), and it was not enough to increase total aid as much as Blair had hoped. But it was greeted enthusiastically in London, and it came atop an accord last month to completely forgive the debt of 18 nations, mostly in sub-Saharan Africa. In a further sign of transatlantic comity, the world's creditor nations also agreed in principle Thursday to write off about two-thirds of the $30 billion debt owed by Nigeria, which hadn't been included in the earlier debt deal.

HurricaneBob · Post by **HurricaneBob** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

Because of Ron!

Truth!

My 600th post, thank ye!

esa · Post by **esa** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

::laughs her ass off:: Ya know somethin'? I think you got a fat person fettish.... this guy...the kid with the wrestling uniform three sizes too small... I knew there was somethin' a little strange about you... lol!

Post by **Ron** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

I also want to say that I'm not against charity, I'm just against forced charity. We have a record trade deficit. Each US taxpayer owes almost $2000 to the rest of the world. $500 of it to China. That debt will never be forgiven.

And I think Hurricane's fat guy is comedian Frank Payne.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

Don't forget, Hurricane also posted "the flyer" AND Einstein flipping me off, so I don't know about any "fetish"...and as for the other people, I don't like that word...but for the Grace of God, there go I...probably most of us, for that matter! I have an
adorable great-niece who is quite over weight, but I don't see that, she has a beautiful Soul and it shines through...she was very premature, was loaded up on all kinds of steroids and crap, and she's now slightly Diabetic, poor kid...

What "sticks in my craw" (I've got a million of 'em, folks!) about the National Debt, is that we're "forgiving" other Nations' debt, but our largely Conservative electorate has recently made it more difficult for hard working, hard hit Americans to file Bankruptcy...Heaven forbid if the credit card companies couldn't take everything a person owns, foreclose homes, basically ruin lives and suck their last ounce of blood!

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

Hurricane wrote:Because of Ron!

My 600th post, thank ye!

...and I'd say, being that it's Hurricane's 600th Post, it calls for some Turkey! "Gobble, gobble, gobble"!

Peace,
YankeeRose

Quail Whale · Post by **Quail Whale** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

but our largely Conservative electorate has recently made it more difficult for hard working, hard hit Americans to file Bankruptcy...Heaven forbid if the credit card companies couldn't take everything a person owns, foreclose homes, basically ruin lives and suck their last ounce of blood!

oooh, that burns my booty...people must be accountable for their own spending, and not blame the government if you spend yourself into a hole & the credit cards expect to receive back the money you borrowed. and then what happens? those companies have to write off those lame borrowers as bad debt, which affects their bottom line which affects investors which affects the rest of the economy & so on. im glad theyre toughening the stance on bankruptcy...maybe make people think a little more before they use the plastic on something they cant afford. i think bankruptcy is just a form of legalized theft...you can borrow money then not repay it...and whats the punishment? bad credit? like anyone who files bankruptcy gives a #$$% about their credit score.....
grrr.

witchhunt · Post by **witchhunt** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

Just suppose the U.S. had a real big natural disaster or another plague. Besides Great Britain, who do you think would lend a helping hand? I mean a real helping hand.
As far as Floyd, cool clip. Thanks Bag. Waters singing really sucks, though. Gilmour still sounds great.

Post by **Ron** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

I agree, QW. Now if only our governing bodies could act with the same responsibility. Most of today's politicians care nothing about the future aftershocks of financial irresponsibility. They just worry about the next election, making sure that thier constituents are temporarily happy enough to re-elect them.

The scary thing is that the best thing about the Republican party was it's financial conservatism, and now that is going out of the window. Bushco is slowly turning financially liberal and more conservative socially. Exactly the opposite of what our nation needs.

The low-interest-housing bubble is going to make the internet bubble look tame. When the internet bubble broke, it mainly affected the internet companies that were extremely overvalued. The rest of the market and computer based hardware suppliers were also hit, but the main victims were the artificially valued web companies. When the housing bubble breaks, the victims will be every person in the US with a mortgage or other loan. I hope I'm wrong.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

Quail Whale said:
"oooh, that burns my booty...people must be accountable for their own spending, and not blame the government if you spend yourself into a hole & the credit cards expect to receive back the money you borrowed. and then what happens? those companies have to write off those lame borrowers as bad debt, which affects their bottom line which affects investors which affects the rest of the economy & so on. im glad theyre toughening the stance on bankruptcy...maybe make people think a little more before they use the plastic on something they cant afford. i think bankruptcy is just a form of legalized theft...you can borrow money then not repay it...and whats the punishment? bad credit? like anyone who files bankruptcy gives a #$$% about their credit score.....grrr."

"Something they can't afford", like FOOD? Can we TALK about "leglized THEFT"? How about the banks (which are what credit card companies ARE, after all), raising the interest rates, late payment fees and penalties when a customer falls on hard times after losing a job - a devastating illness, or what have you - and is late on a payment or two and then, like I said, proceeds to RUIN THEIR LIFE! I happen to know people who were able to THANKFULLY, file a Bankruptcy and while you may find it hard to believe, they DO care very much about their credit score and their families' futures! You obviously haven't a clue...you need to "walk a mile in another man's - or woman's - shoes" before you are so quick to judge.

Ron..."fiscal Conservatism"? Was that before or after they blew the SURPLUS that was there when "BushCo" took office? They'd pretty much gone through it and had our country in a Fiscal mess even before the devastating attacks of 09/11/2001. Now, as far as Mortgages, i.e. "Banks"...I'm not getting into all of it (I once worked for a Mortgage Brokerage.), but I think you've hit the nail right on the head and it's not going to be pretty. Maybe my paying Rent every month isn't so bad, after all...oooh, except that Landlords will then be raising Rents! It just goes to show you,
you just can't win! Thank the Heavens for MUSIC!!!

tonefight · Post by **tonefight** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

Quail Whale wrote:
but our largely Conservative electorate has recently made it more difficult for hard working, hard hit Americans to file Bankruptcy...Heaven forbid if the credit card companies couldn't take everything a person owns, foreclose homes, basically ruin lives and suck their last ounce of blood!
oooh, that burns my booty...people must be accountable for their own spending, and not blame the government if you spend yourself into a hole & the credit cards expect to receive back the money you borrowed. and then what happens? those companies have to write off those lame borrowers as bad debt, which affects their bottom line which affects investors which affects the rest of the economy & so on. im glad theyre toughening the stance on bankruptcy...maybe make people think a little more before they use the plastic on something they cant afford. i think bankruptcy is just a form of legalized theft...you can borrow money then not repay it...and whats the punishment? bad credit? like anyone who files bankruptcy gives a #$$% about their credit score.....
grrr.

I would have to say that bankruptcy seems to be a financial strategy for money smart individuals, its a win win situation and most people that do it aren't hurting. But i also believe the credit card companies are evil also, I was never as pissed as once I put some stuff on my Lowe's card ( about $200 ) Got the bill mailed the check out a little late ( 2 days tops ) but for the full amount got nailed with a $25 dollar late fee !!! The son of a bitches............... I buy everything at Home Depot now even though they'd do the same thing.

Post by **Ron** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

I hear you, tonefight.

I was away during Independence Day and I knew my Visa bill was due some time early in the month. I called and asked what the payment cycle was on my card. They responded "from the 9th to the 9th". I thought cool, I'll pay it when I get home.

When I got home I find out that they charged me $39 because the "due date" was the 4th. Well I called and got the lie-filled runaround about how they give a 30 day grace period and how since I opted for paperless billing that they couldn't notify me in any way when my bill was ready, even by email, yada-yada.

Finally, the guy asked if there was "anything more he could do". I simply told him that I wasn't getting off of the phone until the charge was dropped. Bingo!, a $39 credit to my account. BTW the "overdue" payment that they charged $39 fee for was only $15.

Bastages. Every time I hear the phrase "credit card" it makes my skin crawl.

Post by **Ron** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

YankeeRose wrote:Ron..."fiscal Conservatism"? Was that before or after they blew the SURPLUS that was there when "BushCo" took office? They'd pretty much gone through it and had our country in a Fiscal mess even before the devastating attacks of 09/11/2001.

Yep, YR, Republicans are known historically for their conservatism, both financially and socially. And the so-called "surplus" was political smoke and mirrors. There never was a surplus, there was just a drop in deficit spending that could have lead to a possible surplus.

All politicians say they hate pork until it comes time for them to get their piece of bacon.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Thursday Jul 07, 2005

The thing with bankruptcy is a win win situation for people. That is why th laws for it are changing. I heard of people who files for it and six months later had a brand new car, a new house and a mountain of more credit cards.

makes you wonder some times ..

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Friday Jul 08, 2005

Ron wrote:
YankeeRose wrote:Ron..."fiscal Conservatism"? Was that before or after they blew the SURPLUS that was there when "BushCo" took office? They'd pretty much gone through it and had our country in a Fiscal mess even before the devastating attacks of 09/11/2001.
Yep, YR, Republicans are known historically for their conservatism, both financially and socially. And the so-called "surplus" was political smoke and mirrors. There never was a surplus, there was just a drop in deficit spending that could have lead to a possible surplus.

Sorry Ron, but I stand by what I wrote. You can Post all the cute little Graphs you want to try and convince me that our country is better off with Bush, but it's going to Hell in a handbasket! You basically said so yourself.
BTW, what was WRONG with paying down our National Debt and creating even a "possible" Surplus? (I still contend there was one.) In the end, time will tell, as it does with everything. History and the truth will speak for themselves.

f.sciarrillo, "a new car" and "a new house"? I've never personally known anyone to fare so well from a Bankruptcy. Although, I imagine wealthy people would. I recall a furniture store in Shenandoah that every year or so was having a "going out of business" sale. No they weren't...they were just filing yet another one and "re-structuring"! Yet there they were, still in business, year after year after year...they're most likely STILL there! THAT is what is "wrong" with Bankruptcy!

Peace,
YankeeRose

"Be who you are and say what you feel...for those who mind, don't matter and those who matter, don't mind."