Penn State leaders showed 'total disregard' for victims,

[Larry]

Here is a proverb: True believers are scary. I just made it up.

True. This is why you are scary.

Keith, I wish Joe Paterno was as great a man as you claim that you would have been in his position.

[Banned]

Here is a proverb: True believers are scary. I just made it up.

True. This is why you are scary.

Boo!

[Larry]

Here is a proverb: True believers are scary. I just made it up.

True. This is why you are scary.

Boo!

From one pharma rep to another, I have to mess with you...

[Banned]

Joe did not know Sandusky was having SEX with kids.

How do you know that? He never took one single step to find out, building the legacy was way more important to him. When allegations, investigations and prohibitions against showering with young boys at PSU facilities were out there, Joepa did not find out why. That alone is very disturbing. That is why he was fired and his family estate might be wiped out by civil suits in the very near future.

[Banned]

True. This is why you are scary.

Boo!

From one pharma rep to another, I have to mess with you...

Former.

[lonewolf]

Joe did not know Sandusky was having SEX with kids.

He never took one single step to find out,

This is debunked by the Freeh report.

According to the emails, Paterno was asking for and getting updates from Curley.

It doesn't say exactly what all Curley told him, but there is absolutely nothing anywhere from any source that comes close to even implying that Paterno did not get an explanation for the new policies regarding Sandusky. Not a damned thing. Nothing. Zero. Nada. Nic.

I don't even remotely see where you come up with this particular point.

[StumbleFingers]

This is all Obama's fault.

[lonewolf]

This is all Obama's fault.

Ya know, ya just might have something there. I haven't heard Obama say anything about this. If Obama doesn't have anything to say about something, you KNOW he's hiding something.

[RobTheDrummer]

A goddamn child molester got away with it for 20+ goddamn years........


Yea, Joe didn't know.

[Bag]

A goddamn child molester got away with it for 20+ goddamn years........


Yea, Joe didn't know.

"Like most pedophiles who go undetected for years, Sandusky was a terrific liar.

As the Paterno family points out, “He fooled everyone — law enforcement, his family, coaches, players, neighbors, university officials and everyone at the Second Mile.” And that is true.

What is not true, (or, at least, not proven) is that any of these men knew for a fact or in their hearts of hearts that Sandusky was a child molester. No one, that is, except for Mike McQueary.

The others may have had reason to suspect but they didn’t know. McQueary, by his own testimony, did."

[Banned]

A goddamn child molester got away with it for 20+ goddamn years........


Yea, Joe didn't know.

"Like most pedophiles who go undetected for years, Sandusky was a terrific liar.

As the Paterno family points out, “He fooled everyone — law enforcement, his family, coaches, players, neighbors, university officials and everyone at the Second Mile.” And that is true.

The Paterno family is saying anything to try and protect the money. It is all at risk in the coming civil trials according to lawyers. It was all about the legacy, now its all about the estate.

[Banned]

Joe did not know Sandusky was having SEX with kids.

He never took one single step to find out,

This is debunked by the Freeh report.

According to the emails, Paterno was asking for and getting updates from Curley.

It doesn't say exactly what all Curley told him, but there is absolutely nothing anywhere from any source that comes close to even implying that Paterno did not get an explanation for the new policies regarding Sandusky. Not a damned thing. Nothing. Zero. Nada. Nic.

I don't even remotely see where you come up with this particular point.

Getting updates from Curley?????, he was one of the enablers!!!

[lonewolf]

He never took one single step to find out,

This is debunked by the Freeh report.

According to the emails, Paterno was asking for and getting updates from Curley.

It doesn't say exactly what all Curley told him, but there is absolutely nothing anywhere from any source that comes close to even implying that Paterno did not get an explanation for the new policies regarding Sandusky. Not a damned thing. Nothing. Zero. Nada. Nic.

I don't even remotely see where you come up with this particular point.

Getting updates from Curley?????, he was one of the enablers!!!

Exactly.

And without knowing the content of what Curley was relaying to Paterno, what logical conclusion can you make? None...well, except that Paterno was asking for and getting updates from Curley.

Common sense tells me that if Curley can lie or omit to a grand jury, he can lie or omit to his subordinate.

[Banned]

So Joepa really didn't want to know the real truth.

[lonewolf]

So Joepa really didn't want to know the real truth.

[font=sarcasm] No Joe, I guess not. [/font]

All I can get from this is that you are secretly writing for The Onion and trying it out on me first.

From what little nugget of info does this logical conclusion stem? I would be most interested in seeing the algorithm that led you to it.

[Bag]

A goddamn child molester got away with it for 20+ goddamn years........


Yea, Joe didn't know.

"Like most pedophiles who go undetected for years, Sandusky was a terrific liar.

As the Paterno family points out, “He fooled everyone — law enforcement, his family, coaches, players, neighbors, university officials and everyone at the Second Mile.” And that is true.

The Paterno family is saying anything to try and protect the money. It is all at risk in the coming civil trials according to lawyers. It was all about the legacy, now its all about the estate.

They don't need to protect anything. Paterno was praised for his Grand Jury testimony. (By the prosecution)

[Banned]

"Like most pedophiles who go undetected for years, Sandusky was a terrific liar.

As the Paterno family points out, “He fooled everyone — law enforcement, his family, coaches, players, neighbors, university officials and everyone at the Second Mile.” And that is true.

The Paterno family is saying anything to try and protect the money. It is all at risk in the coming civil trials according to lawyers. It was all about the legacy, now its all about the estate.

They don't need to protect anything. Paterno was praised for his Grand Jury testimony. (By the prosecution)

You really think that is going to protect the family estate from the civil suit attorneys? Oh, he testified under penalty of perjury, so we will ignore the family millions, which was built from the legacy, which depended on looking the other way instead of protecting children.

I just heard on the radio that 3 more victims have just come forward. And the civil law suits have not even started yet.

[Banned]

So Joepa really didn't want to know the real truth.

[font=sarcasm] No Joe, I guess not. [/font]

All I can get from this is that you are secretly writing for The Onion and trying it out on me first.

From what little nugget of info does this logical conclusion stem? I would be most interested in seeing the algorithm that led you to it.

The truth of what was going on at those revered PSU Football facilities would have taken focus off of achieving that legacy. We all know which one was more important.

[f.sciarrillo]

It wouldn't surprise me if a hundred more people came out of the woodwork claiming they were attacked by Sandusky. Of course 9/10ths of them couldn't even pick Sandusky out in a line up. People will do anything for money.

[Banned]

NCAA president won't take Penn State death penalty 'off the table'

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... AXT25HeuuI

I think we would have to have a suicide watch organized for the local PSU apologists if this were to happen.

[lonewolf]

So Joepa really didn't want to know the real truth.

[font=sarcasm] No Joe, I guess not. [/font]

All I can get from this is that you are secretly writing for The Onion and trying it out on me first.

From what little nugget of info does this logical conclusion stem? I would be most interested in seeing the algorithm that led you to it.

The truth of what was going on at those revered PSU Football facilities would have taken focus off of achieving that legacy. We all know which one was more important.

Ah. I see. This algorithm:

1) Loathing
2) Speculation
3) Innuendo

[Banned]

[font=sarcasm] No Joe, I guess not. [/font]

All I can get from this is that you are secretly writing for The Onion and trying it out on me first.

From what little nugget of info does this logical conclusion stem? I would be most interested in seeing the algorithm that led you to it.

The truth of what was going on at those revered PSU Football facilities would have taken focus off of achieving that legacy. We all know which one was more important.

Ah. I see. This algorithm:

1) Loathing
2) Speculation
3) Innuendo

Is that on the back of those PSU diplomas?

[f.sciarrillo]

NCAA president won't take Penn State death penalty 'off the table'

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... AXT25HeuuI

I think we would have to have a suicide watch organized for the local PSU apologists if this were to happen.

If they are going to do it, I am hoping that it is for no more than one year. Anything longer than that will cripple the University and town.

[onegunguitar]

NCAA president won't take Penn State death penalty 'off the table'

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... AXT25HeuuI

I think we would have to have a suicide watch organized for the local PSU apologists if this were to happen.

If they are going to do it, I am hoping that it is for no more than one year. Anything longer than that will cripple the University and town.

Why does the current football program(or any of the other athletic programs for that matter) have to suffer with more shit than they already have? These kids that are playing now along with the new coaching staff had NOTHING do to with what has happened. Hell,the current students enrolled there now are paying the penalties as well.

[f.sciarrillo]

NCAA president won't take Penn State death penalty 'off the table'

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... AXT25HeuuI

I think we would have to have a suicide watch organized for the local PSU apologists if this were to happen.

If they are going to do it, I am hoping that it is for no more than one year. Anything longer than that will cripple the University and town.

Why does the current football program(or any of the other athletic programs for that matter) have to suffer with more shit than they already have? These kids that are playing now along with the new coaching staff had NOTHING do to with what has happened. Hell,the current students enrolled there now are paying the penalties as well.

I fully agree with you, Scott. It is a punishment on the students who had nothing to do with the situation at hand. The few that are responsible ruined it for them. But there is nothing you can do when the NCAA makes statements like: "we aren't ruling out the death penalty". I am just trying to look at this optimistically, and letting the NCAA do what they have to do to get the university on the path to heal.

Ad for the statue, it has been announced that they will have a decision within the next 7 - 10 days on what to do with it.

I am just sitting back and rolling with it, as one of my good lawyer friends said I should do. As it is pretty much all in the NCAA hands now ...