DRUMMERS-GET-TOGETHER Today (Sunday) @ 2:00

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

I always learn something...looking to learn some more.

A few drummers mentioned about doing another one, who's in ?

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEEEE!!!

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEEEE!!!

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

I'm in, as long as I'm off work that day.

Next Saturday or Sunday would work for me.

xero380 · Post by **xero380** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

Depending on my schedule I would like to finally come to one of these for the first time!

DRIVEN · Post by **DRIVEN** » Monday May 14, 2012

I'm in bill, lemme know when.
-Sam

generationgap · Post by **generationgap** » Monday May 14, 2012

im in Bill as long as its not on a sunday lolol

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Monday May 14, 2012

Looks like we gotta group. Let's pick a Sunday Afternoon.

How about this Sunday afternoon May 20 ? I think I can still use the Ford Music Store room upstairs one more time...

Let us know if this works for YOU !

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Monday May 14, 2012

Sunday is Perfect for me.

HurricaneBob · Post by **HurricaneBob** » Tuesday May 15, 2012

Yahtzee!

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Tuesday May 15, 2012

This Sunday it is !

How does 2:00 sound ?

Anyone want to bring a kit ?

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Tuesday May 15, 2012

Gonna see if I can make it over, daughter is having a sleepover but I should be okay.

Craven Sound · Post by **Craven Sound** » Thursday May 17, 2012

Still going at 2? Just checking...

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thursday May 17, 2012

May I suggest that you talk about how to find the best quality sounding drums rather than the loudest frikkin' sets and heads that you can find?

We have these little things called microphones in case you think your drums aren't loud enough!

sstuckey · Post by **sstuckey** » Thursday May 17, 2012

lonewolf wrote:May I suggest that you talk about how to find the best quality sounding drums rather than the loudest frikkin' sets and heads that you can find?

We have these little things called microphones in case you think your drums aren't loud enough!

They're drums Jeff...they were intended to be loud. Otherwise it would be a triangle players get together.

Craven Sound · Post by **Craven Sound** » Thursday May 17, 2012

If it were a tad bit later, I could possibly make it.

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thursday May 17, 2012

sstuckey wrote:
lonewolf wrote:May I suggest that you talk about how to find the best quality sounding drums rather than the loudest frikkin' sets and heads that you can find?

We have these little things called microphones in case you think your drums aren't loud enough!

They're drums Jeff...they were intended to be loud. Otherwise it would be a triangle players get together.

An email from a drum "expert":

"There are no loud drums, just loud drummers."

"Thinner shells, shorter shells, thinner heads, will be able to produce a resonant tone when struck softer. There is less mass in a thinner shell and thinner head, which requires less energy to get it vibrating. A shorter shell depth means it takes less time for the sound waves and air to bounce from the top head down to the bottom head and back to the top head, etc. The top and bottom heads vibrating up and down in phase with each other helps create resonance/sustain in the tone of the drum. This resonance will never be as loud as the initial attack, but it allows the drummer to hear his drums when stuck more softly and also produces that infrasonic bodily feedback. The drums also happen to sound a lot better in the FOH when tuned this way."

sstuckey · Post by **sstuckey** » Thursday May 17, 2012

lonewolf wrote:
sstuckey wrote:
lonewolf wrote:May I suggest that you talk about how to find the best quality sounding drums rather than the loudest frikkin' sets and heads that you can find?

We have these little things called microphones in case you think your drums aren't loud enough!

They're drums Jeff...they were intended to be loud. Otherwise it would be a triangle players get together.
An email from a drum "expert":

"There are no loud drums, just loud drummers."

"Thinner shells, shorter shells, thinner heads, will be able to produce a resonant tone when struck softer. There is less mass in a thinner shell and thinner head, which requires less energy to get it vibrating. A shorter shell depth means it takes less time for the sound waves and air to bounce from the top head down to the bottom head and back to the top head, etc. The top and bottom heads vibrating up and down in phase with each other helps create resonance/sustain in the tone of the drum. This resonance will never be as loud as the initial attack, but it allows the drummer to hear his drums when stuck more softly and also produces that infrasonic bodily feedback. The drums also happen to sound a lot better in the FOH when tuned this way."

With that in mind....I'll still beat the ever lovin' hell outta mine! That's how my boys like it.

Plus it's a lot more fun that way, and that's what it's all about. Havin' a good time and relieving stress.

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thursday May 17, 2012

sstuckey wrote:With that in mind....I'll still beat the ever lovin' hell outta mine! That's how my boys like it. Plus it's a lot more fun that way, and that's what it's all about. Havin' a good time and relieving stress.

Yep, I was going to mention that you found your niche and are loving it. Most drummers aren't in that situation. As you know, doing the cover thing is completely different and the A Number One problem for bands in those clubs is "Turn it down!"

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Thursday May 17, 2012

sstuckey wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
sstuckey wrote: They're drums Jeff...they were intended to be loud. Otherwise it would be a triangle players get together.
An email from a drum "expert":

"There are no loud drums, just loud drummers."

"Thinner shells, shorter shells, thinner heads, will be able to produce a resonant tone when struck softer. There is less mass in a thinner shell and thinner head, which requires less energy to get it vibrating. A shorter shell depth means it takes less time for the sound waves and air to bounce from the top head down to the bottom head and back to the top head, etc. The top and bottom heads vibrating up and down in phase with each other helps create resonance/sustain in the tone of the drum. This resonance will never be as loud as the initial attack, but it allows the drummer to hear his drums when stuck more softly and also produces that infrasonic bodily feedback. The drums also happen to sound a lot better in the FOH when tuned this way."
With that in mind....I'll still beat the ever lovin' hell outta mine! That's how my boys like it. Plus it's a lot more fun that way, and that's what it's all about. Havin' a good time and relieving stress.

To Craven Sound:
Yes...2:00 pm at Ford Music Store, but we'll be there for a while for late comers. I can PM you my phone number if you want to call before you come.

Tuning, Pounding and dynamic finesse (volume control) might be a good topic for Sunday.

To degree, shell material (acrylic, birch, maple, oak, etc.) and head choices have some effect on volume. Those things also have an effect of tone. One usually buys a kit for tone, sustain and resonance. Same with heads.

I could get into tuning relative to head selection, tom mounting and pitch of batter (top) head and reso (bottom) head, but a verbal discussion would be easier than typing it out.

The bottom line is that dynamics are in the hands of the drummer, they're called sticks...

INTERESTINGLY enough (or not) but Triple Threat is going to do some material unplugged tonight. The drummer will use hand drums (although probably miced) , bongos an congas and brushes on a snare drum. I'm excited to try this with Don and Bill and any feed back would be appreciated - yes, that's a shameless plug to stop into Pelleys TONIGHT 5/17 at 9:00.

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Thursday May 17, 2012

I can bring a tom and a snare for a tuning demo, Bill. And there will be something special there for Hurricane...

Craven Sound · Post by **Craven Sound** » Saturday May 19, 2012

Hawk wrote: To Craven Sound:
Yes...2:00 pm at Ford Music Store, but we'll be there for a while for late comers. I can PM you my phone number if you want to call before you come.

I still have your number; should I bring those Sabain hats you wanted to look at? I probably won't be there until almost 3, hopefully I won't miss much.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Saturday May 19, 2012

Craven Sound wrote:
Hawk wrote: To Craven Sound:
Yes...2:00 pm at Ford Music Store, but we'll be there for a while for late comers. I can PM you my phone number if you want to call before you come.
I still have your number; should I bring those Sabain hats you wanted to look at? I probably won't be there until almost 3, hopefully I won't miss much.

Sure, bring them along.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Saturday May 19, 2012

I'll be there at 2:00 and I'll bring a drum kit. I'll need help carrying it up the steps and I'll need help taking it back out.

Looking forward to seeing you (that's you plural - you'ns if you'ns'r from Altoona) !

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sunday May 20, 2012

There will be a drum kit there. Bring your sticks and a drum pad if you have one. Show and tell - bring a favorite snare or cymbal if you'd like to share something with us... Or just bring yourself !