All Age Shows

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

I attended one @ Pellegrine's on Sunday. It was a wonderful time of some great, original music! It was brought to my attention that some of the people participating were negative about the amount of children that were there. One of the bands had a nice draw because they have a 10 year old singer and her friends were there to support her first, big show. Now, everyone is certainly entitled to an opinion. I just want to bring a new perspective should one of these people happen to read this. Art is for everyone. The young and old alike. Today's children maybe your fans tomorrow... Music can be very inspiring and these " Chucky Cheese brats " had a great time! They were well behaved for the most part and just danced around like anyone else would. I personally have witnessed some pretty obnoxious " adults " at all kinds of shows.

If you feel that strongly about the presence of children then maybe all age shows are not the venue for you. Personally, I love kids and find it refreshing when they get to participate and even watch their musician parents doing what they do!!

kayla · Post by **kayla** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

It's an All Age show. People should expect children. And as far as that goes, the younger generation is the future of local music, they need our support.

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

Now, if they would have been squealing like they do at a Justin Bieber concert, I might of ran out screaming....

KeithReynolds · Post by **KeithReynolds** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

I think its horribly irresponsible for the parents to have little kids at events like that. Loud music damages little ears. Even semi-loud music damages little ears. Kids should not be in the same room with things like that.
Bash me if you will. Its just my opinion.

eightpointish · Post by **eightpointish** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

I would think the volume would be lower at an all age show, or at least i would hope there was enough common sense to be had to adjust it accordingly.

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

KeithReynolds wrote:I think its horribly irresponsible for the parents to have little kids at events like that. Loud music damages little ears. Even semi-loud music damages little ears. Kids should not be in the same room with things like that.
Bash me if you will. Its just my opinion.

No bashing from me... However, those " irresponsible " parents passed around earplugs.... That seemed pretty responsible to me.

KeithReynolds · Post by **KeithReynolds** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

eightpointish wrote:I would think the volume would be lower at an all age show, or at least i would hope there was enough common sense to be had to adjust it accordingly.

One would hope, but how loud is too loud? There needs to be a limit for the age. I know of a 3 yr old that was there. REALLY????

KeithReynolds · Post by **KeithReynolds** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

Maniacal Melody wrote:
KeithReynolds wrote:I think its horribly irresponsible for the parents to have little kids at events like that. Loud music damages little ears. Even semi-loud music damages little ears. Kids should not be in the same room with things like that.
Bash me if you will. Its just my opinion.
No bashing from me... However, those " irresponsible " parents passed around earplugs.... That seemed pretty responsible to me.

Atleast some people used their heads. Im sure alot of them were brought without plugs, and someone just happened to have them. Ive played all age shows that didnt pass out ear plugs. I hate all age shows. I was just saying I think there needs to be a limit and low volume. You know how bands feel about low volume.

rockstar · Post by **rockstar** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

rock and roll is to be played loud whats the difference if your in a car with your kids and you turn up the cd player up and have big ass subs? same thing in my opinion at least their the sound can travel unlike in a car.

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

KeithReynolds wrote:
Maniacal Melody wrote:
KeithReynolds wrote:I think its horribly irresponsible for the parents to have little kids at events like that. Loud music damages little ears. Even semi-loud music damages little ears. Kids should not be in the same room with things like that.
Bash me if you will. Its just my opinion.
No bashing from me... However, those " irresponsible " parents passed around earplugs.... That seemed pretty responsible to me.

Atleast some people used their heads. Im sure alot of them were brought without plugs, and someone just happened to have them. Ive played all age shows that didnt pass out ear plugs. I hate all age shows. I was just saying I think there needs to be a limit and low volume. You know how bands feel about low volume.

Valid points to be considered and helpful to some who may not have thought of such things. I just think that if you opt to play at an all age show you should be respectful and not say hateful things that could offend and hurt those same children who are there.

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

rockstar wrote:rock and roll is to be played loud whats the difference if your in a car with your kids and you turn up the cd player up and have big ass subs? same thing in my opinion at least their the sound can travel unlike in a car.

Very true.... I know I am constantly telling my kids to turn down their ipods! You know it's way TOO loud when you can hear their music and they have earbuds in!

weibs · Post by **weibs** » Tuesday May 08, 2012

I have been to many many many all age shows since I was about 14 and I know what goes on at alot of these places and there is no way if I had a kid I would expose him or her to some of the shit I've seen, that is why every place that has all age shows eventually
Gets shut down, but hey that's just my opinion, they are your kids not mine!

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

weibs wrote:I have been to many many many all age shows since I was about 14 and I know what goes on at alot of these places and there is no way if I had a kid I would expose him or her to some of the shit I've seen, that is why every place that has all age shows eventually
Gets shut down, but hey that's just my opinion, they are your kids not mine!

Not all shows are the same and not every place that holds these shows is irresponsible.

onegunguitar · Post by **onegunguitar** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

All age shows can be pretty cool. A lot of times the younger generation don't get the chance to check out bands unless someone takes a chance and sets up a show for them. I've played quite a few over the years...some were good,a few were a train wreck.

DickShackBass · Post by **DickShackBass** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

Well, it says "all age" so I suppose that means birth to 102. I just know that in the past it has typically meant teenage and up. It has always been a place where the youth could go and release that pent up teen angst. I can totally see how they may be highly disappointed that the shows they go to would now seem like an episode of Barney and Friends.
On the OTHER hand I understand how many of the people who were teens back in our heyday now want to share the biggest part of their lives with their own children.

Now, having been in bands that played these types of shows i can also understand some of the band members disappointment. We loved the energy that comes from a group of wild wound up kids thrashing around. Remember circle pits, moshing and the crazy hardcore dancing that was traditionally part of these shows? Bands get off on that. I would be having a heart attack if it were my child wandering the crowd.

So perhaps its time to change the terminology, all age shows are now exactly that, ALL AGE. Now maybe we should make flyers that say 13 and up.

I do have to say though, when we were the 16 year olds getting drunk, tripping on LSD, and other substances that we indulged in at that age, and WE were the ones wanting to let loose and go nuts at the only place were allowed to do that, had we seen little children running around we, too, would be saying nasty things about the change in the scene.

And as far as the show being put on by "responsible people" that doesn't matter. Are you checking everyone who walks through the door for drugs? Because i can guarantee and promise, they are there. Should we all bow down and hide our children away because they MAY encounter pills? No. Just be very wary.

So I can see both sides of the issue, but i think that if the punk/hardcore/metal scene is now going to have little ones running around it is going to deter the teenagers from attending. That gives teens one less thing they can do to get their anger and frustrations out. I feel bad for teens in this town. I really do. So maybe, like i said, some shows should be listed as 13 and up.

By the way, I think what GG is doing is a great thing. She has more balls than most kids twice her age for being able to what she does.

Andrea

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

All very good points and things to consider when booking a show. At this particular show there was most definately an unusal amount of tweens... 50+ Im guessing.... Most of them left after GG and the Assassins set anyway... Age limits are a good idea and maybe a warning on the event advertising when GG is playing that there will be many a rugrat attending...

Flaw · Post by **Flaw** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

Nothing goes on at all age shows that does not go on in public schools....

onegunguitar · Post by **onegunguitar** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

Flaw wrote:Nothing goes on at all age shows that does not go on in public schools....

Probably less goes on at the shows...

DrumAndDestroy · Post by **DrumAndDestroy** » Wednesday May 09, 2012

onegunguitar wrote:
Flaw wrote:Nothing goes on at all age shows that does not go on in public schools....
Probably less goes on at the shows...

pat sucked wieners at school and at shows...

rug · Post by **rug** » Thursday May 10, 2012

I was there with my kids, 5 and 3 y.o..... they had a blast and look forward to the next GG show. My daughter, who is 5, enjoys shows, that was her 3rd one, 2nd time seeing GG & The Assassins.
I know it's horrible, the kids had a great time, there were no fights, no police, no drama, nothing got broke and noone got hurt, imagine that. But really, the kids were there for GG. They were all running around having fun and all the parents were right there to watch everything. I don't see this becoming an issue at shows, but kids will continue to be at GG shows and mostly just for their set.
I didn't see too many teenagers there outside of the ones in the bands.
Overall the show was great and well run. From what I hear Pelly's was very happy and are interested in doing more all age shows. I wouldn't plan on seeing kids like that at every all age event, they are mostly there for GG & The Assassins.
Will and Kent......great job running the show!! The area needs more events like that one!

KeithReynolds · Post by **KeithReynolds** » Thursday May 10, 2012

I guess I am weird.

Id still never take my son to an event with live bands. Id rather not risk his ears. Maybe when he is way older and its his choice, but never before that. No thanks.

I have a memory of seeing my uncle's band when I was around 4. All I remember, is it was LOUD.
As cool as it was for whoever I was with to be seen having a kid at a show, I think it was irresponsible for me to be there. To each their own though.

I just personally dont let my interests or choices effect my child. Id like for him to be his own person. He likes Phineas & Ferb and Spongebob....not death metal and E cups. Let kids be kids. Once its gone, its gone.

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Thursday May 10, 2012

KeithReynolds wrote:I guess I am weird.
Id still never take my son to an event with live bands. Id rather not risk his ears. Maybe when he is way older and its his choice, but never before that. No thanks.

I have a memory of seeing my uncle's band when I was around 4. All I remember, is it was LOUD.
As cool as it was for whoever I was with to be seen having a kid at a show, I think it was irresponsible for me to be there. To each their own though.
I just personally dont let my interests or choices effect my child. Id like for him to be his own person. He likes Phineas & Ferb and Spongebob....not death metal and E cups. Let kids be kids. Once its gone, its gone.

I personally have good memories of concerts my parents took me to. To each his own of course. But I have to clarify that this particular show had no death metal OR E cups....

..... Too many assumptions are being made here.... This post doesn't make you weird but you are coming off a tad judgmental....

KeithReynolds · Post by **KeithReynolds** » Thursday May 10, 2012

Im not saying the show had death metal or e cups!!!

if it did, i prob woulda been there.

those are some of MY interests. I was just saying that I dont want my son to like either of those just because thats what I like. I wasnt saying anything about the show with that comment.

All age shows can be a good thing I guess, but things like plenty of earplugs and barriers should be a standard at all of them. Theres a difference between an all age show at pellys and an all age show in some vfw out in the middle of nowhere.
As far as all age shows that arent in a controlled environment, I think organizers should be responsible and make sure the kids/teenagers ARENT drinking and doing drugs at the show. Sadly, thats not the case. No one is supervised.

Maniacal Melody · Post by **Maniacal Melody** » Thursday May 10, 2012

KeithReynolds wrote:Im not saying the show had death metal or e cups!!! if it did, i prob woulda been there. those are some of MY interests. I was just saying that I dont want my son to like either of those just because thats what I like. I wasnt saying anything about the show with that comment.

All age shows can be a good thing I guess, but things like plenty of earplugs and barriers should be a standard at all of them. Theres a difference between an all age show at pellys and an all age show in some vfw out in the middle of nowhere.
As far as all age shows that arent in a controlled environment, I think organizers should be responsible and make sure the kids/teenagers ARENT drinking and doing drugs at the show. Sadly, thats not the case. No one is supervised.

Well in that case, I agree with you 100%....

It's hard enough protecting your kids from the crap they can see on TV when you can change the channel, let alone face to face....

Naga · Post by **Naga** » Saturday May 12, 2012

I'll go with the "agree and disagree" standpoint. It's really cool being able to go to a show, and see kids out there having a good time with their parents. I've seen several all-age shows to this point. They're rarely knee-deep in kids, but there were several there. I'd agree that, YES, these kids will be put against loud music. You MUST think responsibly if you don't want your kids to go deaf at an early age. The venue could take some of the punch out of the amps, and the promoters could buy a bunch of sets of earplugs to hand out. That'd definitely make it more reasonable. But if you take into consideration that the environment can be controlled and the noise can be downed some, it's a really cool thing seeing kids running around, having fun

If I had kids, would I take them to a show? Well, sure, if I'm not the only one supervising, and if I see it's a rather controlled place with considerably less volume. And of course, the bands that aren't all-age should have consideration for their audience too. Yes, this is a bit of a catch 22. I'm all for speaking one's mind, especially artistically. But then, when you've got 6yr-olds and 7yr-olds in a crowd, don't drop the F bomb every 30 seconds, please