Cops still giving Peter C`s a bad time bout Noise?

wiskerbisket · Post by **wiskerbisket** » Tuesday Feb 22, 2005

Was just wondering..we havent been down there in over a yr....Anyone?

Mo Lester · Post by **Mo Lester** » Wednesday Feb 23, 2005

I know this, it's not the cops, I have been there when they have responded to complaints, from neighbors, and they ( the cops ) were cool, they knew John, and we all had a little talkin' outside. they could care less what goes on, but when people complain, they have to respond. It kinda goes like that . If it's not packed an has people absorbing the sound, and it's loud, the sound carries. It sucks, because Pete's is right in the middle of town , but you just have to be careful how loud it is.

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Wednesday Feb 23, 2005

Even though it is in the middle of town, if you look at that block its hard to believe a neighbor lives close enough to be bothered by it.
I've always found it odd that the bars who do get in trouble are either rural or if in the city, houses are not right beside it.

Quail Whale · Post by **Quail Whale** » Wednesday Feb 23, 2005

people that live neighborhoods where the houses are thisclose to each other are probably more used to outside commotion than people living in areas where sound travels.

Pure Evil · Post by **Pure Evil** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

Not that it means much but this is my personal opinion.

I would move the stage back to the other end of the bar. The electrical is better back there and it's also the newer side of the building, meaning that it's cinder block, not a thin wooden wall like the 6th Ave side.

I'd make the back door & ramp the "musicians load in" area and close it off for people to enter through. Make the "side" door near the front of the building the new front door. It's used most of the time anyway once people are in there or in the summer, AND the bar tenders have clear eye shot of who's coming in/out, sneaking in minors, carrying out beer, fighting, etc.

With the door way in the back, no one knows what's going on back there unless your glued to the security monitor all night watching for trouble.

If the stage was moved back to the other side, the front door almost has to be moved up front. It's just too congested back there.

Stage, bathrooms, doorman, band gear, entrance/exit = traffic jam.

The idea of having the stage where it is now to give more room & make it visible from the bar is good, but I think it's just creating more problems being on that 6th Ave wall.

I remember when peter Cs was the shit to play at and maybe doing some rearranging might help get it back to form without having to do major construction.

Like I said, this is just my opinion.

DMFJ03 · Post by **DMFJ03** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

You might be on to something there.

Good call!

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

I would move the stage back to the other end of the bar. The electrical is better back there and it's also the newer side of the building, meaning that it's cinder block, not a thin wooden wall like the 6th Ave side.

Don't know if you know that that was the old set-up. That back door was still used as exit/entrance. Load-in, electric, etc might be better there but for the audience (in my opinion) the current set-up is better. Fights? Believe it or not, I have never witnessed one in there. Have seen more in DJ type bars, and I frequent PC's often. As far as the original subject which is neighbors calling the cops, it won't quit no matter how you set up the bar I think.

Quail Whale · Post by **Quail Whale** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

I saw the biggest fight I ever saw in there a few yrs ago..some giant tow truck driver guy started an old fashioned barroom brawl~ I think there were like 10 people involved...it was when the stage was on the other side, where the pool table is. About 10 cops showed up!!! exciting stuff!!!!

HurricaneBob · Post by **HurricaneBob** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

In all 6 years weve been doing thursday nights never had we had the cops there for noise, but i did have a sherriff looking there for me once!

Pure Evil · Post by **Pure Evil** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

I've seen more fights in there than anywhere I've ever played before. Come to think of it I believe their was at least one fight every time we played there. lol

I even saw John get into it with a guy. It was well deserved after this guy was glad handing Julia when she was only like 14.

Not sure what shoew's you've been to ZappasWife, but trust me. Their have been many a fight in that bar.

That's not the subject though, it's about the setup. And yes I remember the old way. I played on it for like 4 years. With the current situation of the bar & cops I think it would be better if it was back to how it was.

Again, this is just my opinion. Take it as only that.

Post by **Ron** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

Hurricane wrote:... i did have a sherriff looking there for me once!

Was that when they presented you with your "Outstanding Citizen of the Year" award?

Banana Fandango · Post by **Banana Fandango** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

i got pulled off of a barstool there by some wasted girl who thought i was one of her 'guy' friends. i thought i accidentally sat next to someone's boyfriend & was about to get killed. instead, she just chased me around all night slurring apologies....

BigJohn · Post by **BigJohn** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

Yes, I have had some issues with noise lately, Although I have left the volume go completely unchecked for a long time I just have to check on it from time to time, not alot just alittle. It seems to happen every time someone new moves into one of these town houses across the alley. You would think if they are checking out a place to live they would notice the night club on the corner with a big marquee listing the up coming bands. I had a discussion with one of the p.l.c.b. agents about no bar being able to comply with the noise laws. The law state that if you make noise or music in a bar that can be heard outside, any noise at all you are in violation of the ordiance.

byndrsn · Post by **byndrsn** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

Aw John, does this mean we should only bring our acoutics down on Saturday?

Just kiddin' - We'll still try to Rock the joint Saturday night - just Within Reason!!

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

Not sure what shoew's you've been to ZappasWife, but trust me. Their have been many a fight in that bar.

Well, never said there is never fights there, just not when I've been there. I'm usually there on Thurs nights (Hurricanes) and whenever Flame Sky plays. I really think the genre of music draws certain kinds of people, hence certain audience dynamics shall we say.
Quail Whale, when your comment began with 'the worst fight I ever saw' it reminded me of the PeeWee Herman movie and the part with Large Marge (the worst accident I ever saw...), I love that part. I would love to use that face she did as my avatar.
Bob, congratulations on your citizen award!

Banana Fandango · Post by **Banana Fandango** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

Perhaps, Zappa's Smoking Wife, it is the odor of your cloves that calms the beasts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

BigJohn wrote:It seems to happen every time someone new moves into one of these town houses across the alley. You would think if they are checking out a place to live they would notice the night club on the corner with a big marquee listing the up coming bands.

If there's anything in this life I've learned, it's that people like to bitch. I think it makes them feel empowered somehow. Man, I should write my graduate thesis on that.

I remember I was playing at this club one time where some class reunion was being held. The event was suppose to be over like an hour before show time. When we started playing at our scheduled time, some guy walked up to the stage with a note stating that the alumnus wanted to finish their conversations in quiet. That's cool and all, but we were scheduled to be performing right then. Their event was suppose to be over. Of course, you put on a shitty grin and comply because "that's part of the business".

And yes, I'm aware that I just bitched about something.

Post by **Ron** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

ZappasWife wrote:... it reminded me of the PeeWee Herman movie and the part with Large Marge (the worst accident I ever saw...), I love that part. I would love to use that face she did as my avatar.

Like this ZW?

Staceman · Post by **Staceman** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

...and tell 'em Large Marge sent ya.

HurricaneBob · Post by **HurricaneBob** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

Ron wrote:
Hurricane wrote:... i did have a sherriff looking there for me once!
Was that when they presented you with your "Outstanding Citizen of the Year" award?

I would like to thank my parole officer, without him this award would not have been possible! Last but not least to DA Gormen for screwing up and getting it thrown out of court!

GUITARII · Post by **GUITARII** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

bassist_25 wrote:
I remember I was playing at this club one time where some class reunion was being held. The event was suppose to be over like an hour before show time. When we started playing at our scheduled time, some guy walked up to the stage with a note stating that the alumnus wanted to finish their conversations in quiet. That's cool and all, but we were scheduled to be performing right then. Their event was suppose to be over. Of course, you put on a shitty grin and comply because "that's part of the business".

And yes, I'm aware that I just bitched about something.

Memories..... I believe that was the Gallitzin IMS... I think I can still see the smug look on that dude's face when he gave us the note. Looking back, we should've cranked "rockin in the free world" or something!!

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

GUITARII wrote:
bassist_25 wrote:
I remember I was playing at this club one time where some class reunion was being held. The event was suppose to be over like an hour before show time. When we started playing at our scheduled time, some guy walked up to the stage with a note stating that the alumnus wanted to finish their conversations in quiet. That's cool and all, but we were scheduled to be performing right then. Their event was suppose to be over. Of course, you put on a shitty grin and comply because "that's part of the business".

And yes, I'm aware that I just bitched about something.

Memories..... I believe that was the Gallitzin IMS... I think I can still see the smug look on that dude's face when he gave us the note. Looking back, we should've cranked "rockin in the free world" or something!!

Yeah, I thought Chris was going to start kicking people's asses. *LOL* I think that was the weekend where Skinsey had us play two nights in a row, so it all worked out in the end. It still pissed me off though. *LOL*

byndrsn · Post by **byndrsn** » Friday Feb 25, 2005

bassist_25 wrote:
Yeah, I thought Chris was going to start kicking people's asses. *LOL* I think that was the weekend where Skinsey had us play two nights in a row, so it all worked out in the end. It still pissed me off though. *LOL*

Chris?!?!?!? Wanting to kick someones ass?!?!? Yeah....... whatever!!! I can't even imagine that!!

wiskerbisket · Post by **wiskerbisket** » Saturday Feb 26, 2005

Or does it always have to be @ Aldo`s.Now im not from Altoona.Get there everyonce in a while,but last time I checked Aldo`s was not the place to be.

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